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CadyandZoe replied to the thread TULIP an open discussion.Well, okay. If that's what you believe. But you surprise me since those who put trust in free will, usually object to any sort of... -
CadyandZoe replied to the thread TULIP an open discussion.I am not playing games. I am using basic reading techniques. We understand the meaning of the passage from the surrounding context. The...
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Then Chalk one up for Calvin, I guess. I know I believed from the age that one can believe anything, because my mommy and daddy told me...
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CadyandZoe replied to the thread TULIP an open discussion.Let's put aside the fact that your position is incomprehensible for the moment and examine your take on "hardening." So, are you...
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CadyandZoe replied to the thread TULIP an open discussion.Right. Jesus tells us what made the difference between those who believed him and those who didn't. The reason why some believed while...
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CadyandZoe replied to the thread TULIP an open discussion.Okay. So what? The point is that God hardened their heart, which means that he made sure that they couldn't change their minds. Bottom...
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CadyandZoe replied to the thread TULIP an open discussion.If you are asking "On what basis does the Father give people to the son?", the answer is not stated. The point is, they come and stay...
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CadyandZoe replied to the thread TULIP an open discussion.Bible students eventually realize that it doesn't work that way. Often the "plain" meaning of a text is the familiar understanding of...
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CadyandZoe replied to the thread TULIP an open discussion.You are mistaken about me. I do care about the grammar. I simply disagree with your conclusion about why we disagree. You think our...
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CadyandZoe replied to the thread TULIP an open discussion.It isn't a grammar issue. But contrary to your interpretation, Jesus is not suggesting that belief is a prerequisite for eternal life...
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CadyandZoe replied to the thread TULIP an open discussion.On the contrary, your arguments depend on a certain "take" on them, which is not clear from the actual text itself. The apostles...
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CadyandZoe replied to the thread TULIP an open discussion.You disagree with the verse you quoted. Jesus explicitly says that the Father gives people to the Son. The reason why someone believes...
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CadyandZoe replied to the thread TULIP an open discussion.The verses you quote don't necessarily rule out the order of salvation that I have proposed. They can be read either way. Consider...
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CadyandZoe replied to the thread TULIP an open discussion.Yes, and the reason they believe after hearing the gospel is because God has given them his Spirit. Indwelling Spirit comes first. As...
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CadyandZoe replied to the thread TULIP an open discussion.Yes, it is an open invitation, but not all will come. And why not? Because they come when they are chosen by the Father to give to the...
