Trump is dangerous - a Messianic Complex

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Jack

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yep.I am astounded, too that folks who profess to be Christians foster so much hate against Biden. I see it all over here.
Some of the things trump says are just awful, (Pence isn't even gonna vote for him--his own VP) and full of hate and revenge, and Christian folk just eat it up.
I think the irony meter just exploded.
 
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Oh, how frequently do Demonrats admit they make mistakes? I’m sure if Trump would only admit the error of his ways, the media and Demonrats would sing his praises and end the lawfare against him.
Naw, that would only happen if he drops out of the race
 
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yep.I am astounded, too that folks who profess to be Christians foster so much hate against Biden. I see it all over here.
Some of the things trump says are just awful, (Pence isn't even gonna vote for him--his own VP) and full of hate and revenge, and Christian folk just eat it up.

You can' t begin to choose where to start concerning Biden ....Pence is an establishment RINO. I think Pence was a bad choice for VP. There were far better candidates to choose from.

What exactly has Biden done to swoon you over? As a supposed practicing Catholic, He can't cross himself right. As a lifelong Military Brat ....Biden sickens me everytime he salutes coming off or on AF1. Biden is no where near as Catholic as I am.....The only reason they do this crap is for the old Catholics and because JFK was Catholic.. There s nothing Catholic about the group as a whole.....nothing.
 

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I support fully so much of the policy decisions President Trump has made and put into effect. I voted for him in 2016 and 2020 and also supported his Presidential run with money. His narcissism in the past I attributed to a sense of humor that was geared to tweak and arouse the anger of leftists and RINOs. Now I am seeing his narcissism has become solidly how he truly thinks. This is dangerous for his belief that he can never be wrong has gone to extreme. The following statements in that video are repulsive to me as a believer in Jesus the Christ, Jesus the Messiah sent to save his people:

“And on June 14, 1946, God looked down on his planned paradise and said, ‘I need a caretaker,’ so God gave us Trump.”

The Trump video includes repeated religious references and quotations from the Bible. A narrator describes Trump as one who “follow(s) the path and remain(s) strong in faith.”

Trump, "strong in the faith"???? The only faith Trump evidences is faith in himself, not faith in God or the American people. I do not like making a political commercial or whatever they call it, of a human being being described in like manner as when God the Father sent God the Son to earth to save his people. That seems blasphemous to my thinking.

In 2016 and 2020 I passed Trump off as our modern day Cyrus, not a child of God by faith in Christ, but he was used by God to make certain policy decisions to give opening for Christians to live and breathe freely under our government. His Roe Vs Wade view on appointing the 3 Supreme Court Justices was his greatest achievement; and, he did seem to try to stop the flow of illegals into the USA, with intense opposition by Leftists and de facto Communists in this country.

While Governor DeSantis is not great on a debate stage, nor is he an imposing presence; in Florida he did excellent work, and kept his finger on most things happening in the State. Governor DeSantis is fully conservative and effective in an executive position like Governor and President. I'll vote for DeSantis in the primary and hopefully in Nov. 2024; but I'm concerned Trump will win the nomination even with all the personal baggage he'll have. I'll end up either voting 3rd Party or not vote in the Presidential choice part of the ballot. There are two sayings I've considered: "Don't vote for the lesser of two evils for it is still evil"; or "Don't reject the good for an insistence on the perfect." I may not have the exact wording, but that is the substance.

In the past I could view Trump as our Cyrus, today I must reject him for his increased narcissism which has become extreme and no longer humorous. We can have good Christian and conservative values in Gov. Ron DeSantis without so much underlying wickedness. He has proven himself as an efficient executive in the State of Florida.
Do you judge a man by what he says or what he does?
 
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Oh, how frequently do Demonrats admit they make mistakes? I’m sure if Trump would only admit the error of his ways, the media and Demonrats would sing his praises and end the lawfare against him.
I doubt that. I think they want Trump DEAD!
 
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and yet BOTH point to the greatest wrong of all . the lie that leaveth men in darkness .
the lie that cannot set them free .
BOTH sides believe in and preach in their own way this LIE that other religoins are indeed serving the same GOD we do .
TAKE A GOOD LONG peek at the abraham peace accords .
Look at it . Now you might be thinking MAN our hero trump champoined this great accord in ...........
BUT HE DID NOT . OH HE DID HELP USHER IT IN .
But it was before trump was . THIS IS THE VATICANS DOING as is the very religous tolerance act .
WE GETTING DUPED by BOTH SIDES when it comes to the MAIN AGENDA .
And while its true trump might be a better choice when it might cometh to abortion
that be about the only thing . Or maybe he can help push in a bit more prosperity . But to what avail .
DID NOT HITLER do that and did it much better than has any ever done . Yet look at what he did .
IF OUR HOPES are in money and the easy life , then we will heed those who give us those desires .
BUT IF OUR HOPE BE IN GOD ALONE and in CHRIST ALONE , we wont be decieved by men
and even if society did fall and the worst of famines did come , STILL GOD WOULD HAVE TAKEN CARE OF US .
MY TRUST IS IN HIM and not in me or any man . BUT IN HE ALONE and its time we all get to that my friend .
I have had my trust in God since my first Bible class when I was a teenager. But for the White House we are not looking for God or a Preacher or any such perfect man. We look for the best king from those who are running. So the choice is Biden and Obama or Trump.
 

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.I am astounded, too that folks who profess to be Christians foster so much hate against Biden.
Well, he is approving baby killing, and so does his vice president.
Does that mean I hate him? Should we hate evil? Your choice.
Personally I don't hate either one, let's just say I dislike them both.
They need Christ.
 
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We are in a tailspin because of the actions two of the three, just mentioned have done to this country. Obama set the tone ......Hillary was there to carry the agenda and ran into Donald Trump. Biden came in, under orders to staff each position using Obama henchmen to carry the agenda. Trump was taken by the RINOs that knew he was an outsider. This second term will look nothing like the first, other than the salvation of the economy that was Trump's alone. I look for Chicago to cook this summer. Look for chaos to ensue as the children take over in Chicago schools .....Biden voters stay at home after this summer ......
 
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These days when you dislike somebody you get the HATE CARD thrown at you.
If you disagree with the homo lifestyle right away you get the HATE CARD thrown at you.
I am getting sick of the fact that I cannot disagree with anything these days without being called a hater.
 

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To my knowledge, Donald Trump has never exampled a Messianic complex.

He referred to himself as the chosen one in a speech once. That is in keeping with scripture that tells all those put in authority over us are chosen,appointed,by God.

Therein,his proclamation was Biblical not diabolical.
 
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So it is a sin to hate biden, But not a sin to hate trump?

really?

What Biden and the DOJ is doing to trump is stuff that you see people like Hitler, and stalin, and other dictatorships do.. Attack their enemy so they can not be apposed.
I pray for trump and anytime I have super neg feelings about him, I ask the Lord to help me.
You?
 

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Oh, how frequently do Demonrats admit they make mistakes? I’m sure if Trump would only admit the error of his ways, the media and Demonrats would sing his praises and end the lawfare against him.
This is not a political thing. The press conference at the garden centre is a classic example.
Rather than admit it was the wrong location and just switch it went ahead.

Taking top secret documents and not giving them back. I have the right to them.
This is a personality trait. Or the failed businesses and ventures. It is not a problem to try lots of things,
but to then say they are a success is absurd. Or hiring folk as the best in their field, then firing them a
few months later saying they are rubbish. The through put is so large at some point the person in the
middle is the problem.

But populism is about saying what fits in the moment, whether it is the opposite of the previous moment
does not matter, just what appears popular. Gaining confidence is all that matters not reality. And to deny
and stop truth or criticism coming in, creates a cult and the equivalent of brain washing.

All the populist dictators do this, and if there is enough grievance in the population you just need a big
enemy, and the worse you can paint them the stronger the feeling.

The leader needs to stay apparently sensible and moderate while stirring up the soldiers to fight.
At what point do you say the leader has become the extreme and is the source of trouble rather than resolving
the grievance which justified their rise to power?

If you become like your enemy you replace them and are the enemy. It is why Jesus called us to love our enemies
and pray for them, knowing we can easily become the very thing we hate. God bless you
 

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So it is a sin to hate biden, But not a sin to hate trump?

really?

What Biden and the DOJ is doing to trump is stuff that you see people like Hitler, and stalin, and other dictatorships do.. Attack their enemy so they can not be apposed.
Trump is a symtom of the USA losing its identity to what it was back in the post 2nd world war.

Attacking democracy and its right to vote in politicians is an anti democratic and anti constitutional action.
The christian nationalists do not want democracy but a theocracy.

The difficulty is 30% military support of a violent political action can lead to civil war.
Without breaking the institutions of the country it will stand. But it is the institutions that make the USA the
free country that it is.

If this belief has now left the population, you have a democratic dilemma.
Racism, sectarianism still has a powerful seat in the society, so a proper resolution is going to play out.

If a free country where you can do what you want has become one with more regulations and social responsibility
something is going to crack.

We live in a world where I can buy something anywhere in the world and have it at my door in a week.
AI running things, factories run by efficient robots means whatever the past was, it is not our future.

Tesla run in the biggest car market in the world, China, is a USA success is ironic, and is run by robots and cutting
edge technology. This demonstrates this is about insecurity and belonging not about logic or what is actually
happening. The Roman Empire fell because of such issues, and our social system is just a vulnerable.
 

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Well, he is approves baby killing, and so does his vice president.
Does that mean I hate him? Should we hate evil? Your choice.
Personally I don't hate either one, let's just say I dislike them both.
They need Christ.
They not only 'approve' of baby killing, they insist on it!
 

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Well, he is approves baby killing, and so does his vice president.
Does that mean I hate him? Should we hate evil? Your choice.
Personally I don't hate either one, let's just say I dislike them both.
They need Christ.
I hate what they do. It would be easy to hate them, but I don't, I pray for them, in particular Joe Biden and his family, but also his entire regime. Yes, they very much need Christ!!

Much love!
 

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For the sake of survival of the human race,
we must have moral clarity when it comes
to the battle of good vs. evil.

That's what is missing these days in politics.

Even the churches battle with it because of
their support for"political correctness".