Violence broke out tonight at UCLA between protesters

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I realise the most people here think the protesters don’t know a thing, are not informed ect ect , judging a whole group of people and saying they are wrong in every way, but in reality no one knows every single person there. Not keen on blanket judgements !

Hamas and devout Muslims call for murdering Jews from the Earth, kill Christians and former Muslims.
They murder homosexuals.
They believe women are beneath men and Muslim husbands are allowed to beat their wives.
They stone women to death for adultery, fornication.
They kill female family members who are thought to have brought dishonor upon the family. (The dishonor would also include rape.)

So I think (hope) a lot of these pro-Palestinian protesters are simply uninformed....or else they should be protesting the above.

Hamas deliberately uses Palestinian people as human shields. They also build their headquarters under hospitals, etc. And Hamas started this war by murdering, raping, kidnapping hostages.

Seems like the protesters should be blaming Hamas, not Israel for what's happening.
 

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Sorry Depp I have slightly different views , on Hamas I agree, but that doesn’t negate everything that’s happening. I will leave it there as Its not worth even trying to explain.
Thanks for answering my question earlier x
 

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Sorry Depp I have slightly different views , on Hamas I agree, but that doesn’t negate everything that’s happening. I will leave it there as Its not worth even trying to explain.
Thanks for answering my question earlier x
You might be interested in what the protesters are doing to Jewish students here.
 
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Sadly there will always be this side of things, it happened after terrorist attacks. I guess the point I was making is that not everyone who has a voice for Palestine is misinformed , not everyone who is Jewish will feel threatened. We have Jewish students in the protests because not all Jewish people agree with certain aspects of what is happening. We had a similar thing after 7/7 terrorist attack, this time it
was people opposed to Muslims.
Its the blanket judgements I don’t agree with.
Over here we have a far right group , I know you have them over in the US , and they will just join in things in order to cause problems - so I have no doubts that there are those amongst the students that fit into these groups.
All of it is sad, as I have said before, it’s a mess.
 

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But in reality you don’t know how anything would have unfolded - a whole lot of decisions with other world leaders have led to this point in time. I just find it a bit weird to presume this, we have the same protests over here - and funding is different. It’s not just happening in the US
I realise the most people here think the protesters don’t know a thing, are not informed ect ect , judging a whole group of people and saying they are wrong in every way, but in reality no one knows every single person there. Not keen on blanket judgements !

I am sure, in the past the same was thought of many young people that paved the way to change through protests.
I think If you are going to insist we cannot presume on this topic,when Trump's history of not negotiating with our enemies,both foreign and domestic,is on the record then you should not presume in your own right.
What we know is Biden is doing nothing to stop this. And everything to sustain it. And even the most devout anti-Trumper knows Trump would not stand by and do nothing .
 
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I think I'd you are going to insist we cannot presume on this topic,when Trump's history of not negotiating with our enemies,both foreign and domestic,is on the record then you should not presume in your own right.
What we know is Biden is doing nothing to stop this. And everything to sustain it. And even the most devout anti-Trumper knows Trump would not stand by and do nothing .
You have obviously misunderstood the point I was making, I don’t think I insisted anything , I was offering up an opinion as a member. I equally didn’t say Trump would do nothing.
 

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You have obviously misunderstood the point I was making, I don’t think I insisted anything , I was offering up an opinion as a member. I equally didn’t say Trump would do nothing.
You're obviously mistaken. I understand what you said.

These pro-Hamas occupiers,domestic terrorists, who trespass on college or university campuses, over 30 this far,
are breaking the law.

If any one of them knew the facts of the matter at hand they would not be resorting to these unlawful acts.

One does not break the law so to protest law breaking is immoral.

One does not commit violent acts domestically in order to protest violent acts overseas.

And one does not negotiate with terrorists in the hopes of getting them to leave campus when the law can be prosecuted so to remove them.
 
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These pro-Hamas occupiers,domestic terrorists, who trespass on college or university campuses, over 30 this far,
are breaking the law.

If any one of them knew the facts of the matter at hand they would not be resorting to these unlawful acts.

One does not break the law so to protest law breaking is immoral.

One does not commit violent acts domestically in order to protest violent acts overseas.

And one does not negotiate with terrorists in the hopes of getting them to leave campus when the law can be prosecuted so to remove them.

Anarchists have infiltrated and influence these college protesters. It's too bad these college young people are being led astray into lawlessness.

In my video post #25 above, the young woman trying to confront the older Jewish man ...first she invites the other students to a Hitler Youth meeting! (This while the main speaker is a Jew.)

Then when he keeps asking her if she condemns Hamas...she says nothing.

Finally he mentioned some Muslim terrorist who says to hunt down Jews to kill wherever you find them....he asked the young woman "do you agree with that?" She finally blurts out yes!!!
 
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Anarchists have infiltrated and influence these college protesters. It's too bad these college young people are being led astray into lawlessness.

In my video post #25 above, the young woman trying to confront the older Jewish man ...first she invites the other students to a Hitler Youth meeting! (This while the main speaker is a Jew.)

Then when he keeps asking her if she condemns Hamas...she says nothing.

Finally he mentioned some Muslim terrorist who says to hunt down Jews to kill wherever you find them....he asked the young woman "do you agree with that?" She finally blurts out yes!!!
She's wearing a Palestinian headscarf knowing a Jew is going to lecture.

She wanted to make a statement just by appearing in that assembly.

She's one that should be deported to a Muslim Sharia ruled country.
 
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She's wearing a Palestinian headscarf knowing a Jew is going to lecture.

She wanted to make a statement just by appearing in that assembly.

She's one that should be deported to a Muslim Sharia ruled country.
It would seem that some of these protesters could be deported for treason.
 
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Its the blanket judgements I don’t agree with.
I love general rules of thumb! They are generally true even if there are exceptions. I know the Left hates general rules precisely for this reason. Example: Birds of a feather flock together.

I once did a detailed analysis of the often quoted statement ‘Most Muslims Are Peaceful.’ This is the wrong denominator. When using “total terrorist incidents,” a very different picture emerges.

The statistic I developed was TIPB or “Terrorist Incidents Per Billion Believers.” Holy cow! There is a website that tracks Islamic Terrorist events. Over 40,000 since 9/11.

They are nearly 1,000 x more likely to commit the next terrorist incident than any other group I had data for. To put this in perspective, a pool of sharks are less likely to attack than this group. Yes, not every shark is a man eater but prudence points to NOT ignoring the general rule just because exceptions exist.
 

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The statistic I developed was TIPB or “Terrorist Incidents Per Billion Believers.” Holy cow! There is a website that tracks Islamic Terrorist events. Over 40,000 since 9/11.

They are nearly 1,000 x more likely to commit the next terrorist incident than any other group I had data for.

Middle Eastern Muslims train their children from birth to hate and kill Jews and to hate the USA. This deliberate hate training continues in schools by the teachers.

Palestinian Muslim boys (maybe elsewhere) are given military training at ages eight to ten years old.

Mosab Hassan Yousef (now Christian), son of Hamas co-founder, tells about the above being true. Another Palestinian said he was taught to hate and kill since birth, too....he converted to Judaism!


The following 58 second video is pitiful...horrible that this young female child spews out hatred so easily towards the Jewish soldiers. It is what she was taught from birth.

In the comments under the video, the Muslims making comments thought she was brave and great....so sad but they were also raised to hate and kill Jews.

@Rita

 
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Middle Eastern Muslims train their children from birth to hate and kill Jews and to hate the USA. This deliberate hate training continues in schools by the teachers.

Palestinian Muslim boys (maybe elsewhere) are given military training at ages eight to ten years old.

Mosab Hassan Yousef (now Christian), son of Hamas co-founder, tells about the above being true. Another Palestinian said he was taught to hate and kill since birth, too....he converted to Judaism!


The following 58 second video is pitiful...horrible that this young female child spews out hatred so easily towards the Jewish soldiers. It is what she was taught from birth.

In the comments under the video, the Muslims making comments thought she was brave and great....so sad but they were also raised to hate and kill Jews.



True.

The schools are known as Madrasas. And they are here in the USA too not just in the ME.



 
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Middle Eastern Muslims train their children from birth to hate and kill Jews and to hate the USA. This deliberate hate training continues in schools by the teachers.
A non-venomous snake bites don't kill and venomous snake may not always bite. Doesn't mean we should sacrifice prudence at the alter of THE PERVERSION OF EQUALITY.

A common error is for people to mistake Muslims for Islam. A muslim is a person. Islam is an evil ideology. Some and even most Muslims are like most Christians; they are nominal or cultural but not devout. They're just trying to get through life. Then there are the devout. Much like non-venomous and venomous snakes.
 
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Middle Eastern Muslims train their children from birth to hate and kill Jews and to hate the USA.
Every American should be aware of this and see the vid you shared.

Propaganda is powerful and the radicalization of Muslim children goes against the narrative that no culture is better than any other culture and you are xenophobe to oppose unrestricted immigration. This is the propaganda designed for our culture's destruction.
 
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Middle Eastern Muslims train their children from birth to hate and kill Jews and to hate the USA. This deliberate hate training continues in schools by the teachers.

Palestinian Muslim boys (maybe elsewhere) are given military training at ages eight to ten years old.

Mosab Hassan Yousef (now Christian), son of Hamas co-founder, tells about the above being true. Another Palestinian said he was taught to hate and kill since birth, too....he converted to Judaism!


The following 58 second video is pitiful...horrible that this young female child spews out hatred so easily towards the Jewish soldiers. It is what she was taught from birth.

In the comments under the video, the Muslims making comments thought she was brave and great....so sad but they were also raised to hate and kill Jews.

@Rita

Not being funny Depp but adults teaching kids to hate the enemy is no new thing, whether it be cultural, racial or war zones. I typed ‘ what Israeli children are taught in school ’ and a whole list of things came up that were very much the same as Muslims being taught to hate.
Also, would you perhaps think this was news to me , that I didn’t know this - I might have some differing views within situations ect but that doesn’t mean I am not aware.
 

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You're obviously mistaken. I understand what you said.

These pro-Hamas occupiers,domestic terrorists, who trespass on college or university campuses, over 30 this far,
are breaking the law.

If any one of them knew the facts of the matter at hand they would not be resorting to these unlawful acts.

One does not break the law so to protest law breaking is immoral.

One does not commit violent acts domestically in order to protest violent acts overseas.

And one does not negotiate with terrorists in the hopes of getting them to leave campus when the law can be prosecuted so to remove them.
You seem to be doing a lot of assuming just lately of Rita posts...only she understands what she said and what she meant...” we don’t” ...

Not good Sis, take a step back and reread your posts to her.

Just saying, I also need to do the same thing at times.....so I’m not coming across as a hypocrite...you are very much in her face...all she is doing is voicing her opinion....then she’s shot down for it..by reading some posts on this thread.......that’s what I’ve read into some posts, talk about “ confrontational “........not good...imo.