God assures us we can understand His word

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Titus

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Ephesians 3:1-5,
- how that by revelation He made known unto me the mystery as I wrote afore in few words

- Whereby when ye(You, not someone else) read ye(You, not someone else)
may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ


Paul is telling You, that what was once a mystery God has revealed it to Paul, and through Paul's teaching he is able to reveal to us what once was a mystery but no longer.

- which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto His holy apostles and prophets by the  Spirit

Gods word assures us that it can be understood by You, so much so that God even commands us to learn it!
God expects us to know His will,

Ephesians 5:17,
- Wherefore be ye(You) not unwise but understanding what the will of the Lord is

Conclusion:
Do you think God would give us a book containing His will for us, command us to read and understand it and then make it too difficult to understand?

Note: Remember the words of Paul and believe them!
Do not be deceived when men try to convince you that you cannot rightly divide Gods word. That only their church can give the true interpretation of the Scriptures.

2Timothy 2:15,
- study to shew thyself approved unto God a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth

John 17:17,
- Sanctify them through thy truth thy  word is truth
 
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Do you think God would give us a book containing His will for us, command us to read and understand it and then make it too difficult to understand?
No, I don't think he would.

The mystery hidden for ages is that God is not manipulative or violent and does not use force. This was definitively revealed in Jesus; this was his purpose.

Jesus revealed the constitution of Heaven in his Sermon on the Mount. (Matthew 5)
The constitution of Israel is found in Leviticus 26

God was not seen to be like HOW Jesus revealed his Father in previous generations of Israel. In fact in all the generations of Mankind.
Man has the idea that God is vindictive, punishing and is out to get his pound of flesh. Man's fear of God is evidence of that.
OT writing reveal this. Yet even within those writings there are windows into a reality that is quiet different.

Jesus changed everything regarding our view of God. In spite of this revelation most prefer a vindictive/ punishing God. They make God in their own image......just observe the justifications folk put forward to this end.....this tells the story.
 
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Do you think God would give us a book containing His will for us, command us to read

Paul tells us to "Study the Word".....so...." reading "...is not exactly the same thing.

Also, if a Cult takes control of your mind, and you become theirs, (mind blinded) then what they do is cause you to read the bible according to how THEY teach you to understand the verses.

For example, once Calvinism takes over a person's mind, then they can only SEE the NT verses, as Calvin teaches them.

Its the same with a Mormon, as Joseph Smith has their mind and they SEE His Theology as "thats the bible".

JWs = same.

Catholic = Same

"Denominations" = Same.

Like this......""""""Well the Baptists teach... however the Assembly of God say... whereas the Methodist try to prove...""""""

A.) No Denominations in Heaven.

God creates : Christians

MAN creates : Denominations, or worse.
 

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Paul tells us to "Study the Word".....so...." reading "...is not exactly the same thing
I agree, take my word read and know I use it as study or meditate.

Also, if a Cult takes control of your mind, and you become theirs, (mind blinded) then what they do is cause you to read the bible according to how THEY teach you to understand the verses
Amen

For example, once Calvinism takes over a person's mind, then they can only SEE the NT verses, as Calvin teaches them.
Amen

Its the same with a Mormon, as Joseph Smith has their mind and they SEE His Theology as "thats the bible".

JWs = same.

Catholic = Same

"Denominations" = Same.

Like this......""""""Well the Baptists teach... however the Assembly of God say... whereas the Methodist try to prove...""""""

A.) No Denominations in Heaven.
Amen, preach it!!

God creates : Christians

MAN creates : Denominations, or worse
Amen

Ephesians 3:1-5,
- whereby when ye read(to know certainly, discern) ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ
 

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Conclusion:
Do you think God would give us a book containing His will for us, command us to read and understand it and then make it too difficult to understand?

Yes and No, it's very simple for the most part. This might sound cliche but it's true, God say what He means and means what He says. The book is inerrant in it's original language and many of the translations may make it confusing for many reasons But...

- Whereby when ye(You, not someone else) read ye(You, not someone else)
may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ

This here is the key. You read it for yourself and the Holy Spirit is on the job so gives you revelation about what it means. If a person reading is reading with a poor motivation in his heart, or reads it merely with his intellect, then it's hard to understand and he will not understand it. God did that so the enemy couldnt understand it. So when we sit down to read with the pure heart of seeking the Lord, then we will understand it because of the Holy Spirit. Simple.
 

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Yes and No, it's very simple for the most part. This might sound cliche but it's true, God say what He means and means what He says. The book is inerrant in it's original language and many of the translations may make it confusing for many reasons But...



This here is the key. You read it for yourself and the Holy Spirit is on the job so gives you revelation about what it means. If a person reading is reading with a poor motivation in his heart, or reads it merely with his intellect, then it's hard to understand and he will not understand it. God did that so the enemy couldnt understand it. So when we sit down to read with the pure heart of seeking the Lord, then we will understand it because of the Holy Spirit. Simple.
I'm not teaching that everyone will understand the Scriptures if they read them without any guidance from a mature Christian.

Take a Chinese man who was never allowed to read the Bible his whole life. Then he getscaccess to the word.
Is he going to understand what he reads all by himself? I don't think so.
This is a lack of education in Bible not an inability to understand.

The main lesson from my post is this. There are men in so called "Christian" denominations that teach, YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND BECAUSE YOU ARE SPIRITUALLY RETARDED, SPIRITUALLY HINDERED. AND GOD IS THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR INABILITY TO UNDERSTAND.

Nowhere in the Bible does it teach this error that God prevents some from being able to understand what they read.

Exampe: catholics teach men will wrongly interpret the Bible without the catholic church explaining to them what it means.

This is a way of controlling others by the logical fallacy of appealing to authority.

The purpose of my post is to let everyone know God does not hinder people from the truth randomly.

God is not on His throne Iooking down cherry picking who will have the truth hidden from them.

Every single man during Jesus' earthly ministry that never was given understanding were men that CHOSE TO REJECT JESUS SO GOD BLINDED THEIR UNDERSTANDING.

If a man desires to know the truth God will provide.

Luke 11:9-10,
- So I say to you, ask and it will be given to you seek and you will find knock and it will be opened to you
for WHOEVER asks receives and he who seeks finds and to him who knocks it will be opened

Whoever includes everyone!!!!

Also I'm teaching that all who are of sound mind can intellectually understand but it requires time patience and work!!!!
Sometimes all of us need another wise man to help us with passages that are difficult.
That is completely diferent from men who say you cannot understand even if someone explains it to you.
Or that only a certain group of men are directly guided by God to reveal the truth to the rest of us, (catholics.)

The Eunch was not spiritually hindered by God. He was simply unlearned and needed some help.
When he got help, HE UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE HEARD.

Acts 8:29-32,
- Then the Spirit said to Philip, Go near and overtake the chariot so Philip ran to him and heard him reading the prophet Isaiah and said Do you understand what you are reading?
And the Eunch said How can I unless someone guides me and he asked Philip to come up and sit with him, The place in the Scripture which he read was this....

34,
- So the eunuch answered Philip and said, I ask you of whom does the prophet say this of himself or of some other man?
- Then Philip opened his mouth and beginning at this Scripture preached Jesus to him
37,
- Then Philip said if you believe with all your heart you may and the Eunuch answered and said,
I BELIEVE(UNDERSTANDS) THAT JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD
 
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Ephesians 3:1-5,
- how that by revelation He made known unto me the mystery as I wrote afore in few words

- Whereby when ye(You, not someone else) read ye(You, not someone else)
may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ


Paul is telling You, that what was once a mystery God has revealed it to Paul, and through Paul's teaching he is able to reveal to us what once was a mystery but no longer.
? Precious friend, I think you meant, with thee and thou = singular, and
ye and you = plural, This Passage should be?:

"For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you(All) Gentiles, If ye have heard
of The Dispensation Of The Grace of God Which Is Given me to you(All)-ward: How that
By Revelation He made known unto me The Mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,


Whereby, when ye (All Ephesians/All members of Christ) read,
ye (All Ephesians/All members of Christ) may understand my
knowledge in The Mystery Of Christ)

Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now
Revealed unto His holy apostles and prophets By The Spirit;" (Ephesians 3:1-5 AV)

Correct?

Amen.
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Totally agree - we (All members of Christ) can understand His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:


Handling The Word Of Life

And Amen.
 

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? Precious friend, I think you meant, with thee and thou = singular, and
ye and you = plural, This Passage should be
No, I wasn't quoting the verse in (parentheses) I was telling those reading this that it is YOU that can understand the Scriptures.

But you are correct grammatically.
 
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? Precious friend, I think you meant, with thee and thou = singular, and
ye and you = plural, This Passage should be?:

"For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you(All) Gentiles, If ye have heard
of The Dispensation Of The Grace of God Which Is Given me to you(All)-ward: How that
By Revelation He made known unto me The Mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,


Whereby, when ye (All Ephesians/All members of Christ) read,
ye (All Ephesians/All members of Christ) may understand my
knowledge in The Mystery Of Christ)

Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now
Revealed unto His holy apostles and prophets By The Spirit;" (Ephesians 3:1-5 AV)

Correct?

Amen.
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Totally agree - we (All members of Christ) can understand His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:


Handling The Word Of Life

And Amen.
Also this passage applies to Christians as well as non-Christians.
Yes, Paul is speaking to the church at Ephesus.

Do you think these verses only apply to them?
If so only the Ephesians in Ephesus that are christians, can understand what they read.
It would not apply to anyone else!!!
 

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God assures us we can understand His word​

Indeed!

But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. (2 Tim. 3:14-15)

Notice that even a child understands the holy scriptures -- no middlemen wanna-be ‘scholars’ required!
 

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Indeed!

But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. (2 Tim. 3:14-15)

Notice that even a child understands the holy scriptures -- no middlemen wanna-be ‘scholars’ required!
Beautiful absolute poetry
 
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Amen.
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Totally agree - we (All members of Christ) can understand His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:
It is true, 'rightly divided' ensures one arrives at a healthy and good conclusion....yet I would ask, who is it that defines 'rightly divided'?.....those who make a big noise about the term?

The World generally takes a big noise about love. Stories and songs roll off the presses and tongues and money is made off the back of these yet as to it being a reality in the writers or singers world or those who read and repeat the words is a big question mark.

'Rightly dividing' does not become a reality because one bandies the term around anymore than love becomes a reality by talking about it, writing about it or singing about it.

Every thief and liar tells you he doesn't steal.....big words, no substance!