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Dear BeforeThereWas, You summed up Phi 2:12 by saying "It means to take the fact of your salvation and make it real in your life. It is not saying to work for your salvation". What you stated is true but that is not what Paul is saying in Phi 2:12-13. To understand what Paul is saying to...

Dear ScottA, Yes, I judge you because we are commanded to judge those within the church who contradict the teachings of Christ. For those who are outside the church, we are not to judge them at this time. 1Cor 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge...

Dear ScottA, I was aware of the scriptures you were paraphrasing but they do not apply to the Early and Latter Rain concept. That is probably why you did not post those scriptures. You are violating this concept: 1Cor 4:6 Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and...

Dear ScottA, I have asked you for scripture to support your contention. However, you have provided none. The reason you have provided none is because there is not any. Your belief is nothing more than conjecture and does not come from scripture. When you look at the Early and Latter Rain...

Dear ScottA, Yes, the natural is the Early Rain which leaves a new babe in Christ carnally minded and spiritually blind. All believers start off following Christ in this way. The Latter Rain (the baptism) is the spiritual and is when a person's spiritual blindness is healed. After it is...

Dear ScottA, The Early and Latter Rain concept is a teaching on the pathway that Christ causes His Elect to travel to their salvation. Why would you believe that it applies also to "first the Jew and afterward the Greek"? That is an outward understanding of a spiritual teaching. Spiritual...

Dear ScottA, One more thought: As I mentioned in one of my earlier posts, John 3:5 mentions the Early and Latter Rains concept. To be born again, one must be born of "water" (represents the Early Rain/carnal understanding) and "spirit" (represents the Latter Rain/spiritual understanding). Joe

Dear ScottA, Yes, the Early and Latter Rains concept is a part of the farming analogy. The farming analogy teaches the pathway to salvation. It is one of many analogies that Christ uses in scripture. The Latter Rain is what makes a person ready for the harvest into the Kingdom of Heaven...

Dear nedsk, Isn't God's Word your authority? Why would you listen to any man when you have access to the highest authority? Your beliefs should be coming from the scriptures that I have posted. Can't you see that those scriptures contradict your present beliefs? Doesn't that bother you...

Dear nedsk, I post the scriptures that support my statements and most of those scriptures are not difficult to understand. You simply reject what they teach because it conflicts with your present understanding. You are still preferring the Old Wine over the New Wine as Christ said would be the...

Dear nedsk, My posts are long because I support what I believe with scripture. If your truth comes from God's Word, why won't you believe the scriptures that I post? You should think about your answer the next time you pray. Truth is only revealed by Christ and He only reveals it when He...

Dear nedsk, I quoted you the scriptures, you just do not believe them. The gospel that is taught in the apostate churches of this world is a false gospel that mixes man's work with the works of Christ. Because the apostate churches require certain works from a person to be saved, they say that...

Dear nedsk, Why would anyone want to be baptized in water if they have no faith in Christ? Only those who make a confession of faith are to be baptized in water. A person's faith comes from having a small measure of the Holy Spirit (Early Rain) within them when they hear the Gospel preached...

Dear nedsk, Why do you think that I am ignoring Mat 28:19??? Mat 28:19 is saying that we are to teach and baptize people in water in the name of Jesus who have made a confession of faith. The people who make a confession of faith do so only because Christ has given them the Early Rain of...

Dear GodsGrace, You asked: So when Jesus sent out the 12 in Matthew 28:19 - the great commission - and He said to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, what did He mean? Christ is referring baptizing a person in water. Only Christ can spiritually baptize a person...

Dear nedsk, Here is why Christ teaches in His spiritual language: Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts (converted believers). 10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon...

Dear GodsGrace, The baptism of the Holy Spirit is what the Jewish Elect received on the Day of Pentecost and what Paul received after being in Damascus for three days. The baptism of the Holy Spirit is the spiritual baptism that physical water baptism foreshadows. This concept applies: first...

Dear nedsk, This is why: John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. Christ teaches using "spirit" words. Spirit words have meanings that are different than what man's wisdom teaches: 1Cor 2:13...

Dear GodsGrace, Hos 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he (Christ) shall come unto us as the Rain, as the Latter and Early Rain unto the earth. Job 37:6 For he saith to the snow, Be thou on the earth; likewise to the small...

Dear Taken, You literally have no scriptural support for your beliefs. You said: You have “them” being “indwelt” with the Spirit… Before “submission.” Yes, and I say that because that is what scripture teaches: 1Cor 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit...