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    The "watch rapture view"

    What was my point then, in regards to my disagreements with @Spiritual Israelite? My point is that 'one sat like unto, appears to be a simile. And that Matthew 13:39 contradicts Revelation 14:14 if the latter is literally meaning Christ. Let's not forget, the reaping in the end of this age...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    Speaking of 2 Thessalonians 2:4, and I will use you, me, and @Spiritual Israelite as examples. @Spiritual Israelite, like you and I, have the OD involving events pertaining to the 1st century through His return at the end of this age. @Spiritual Israelite, like you and I, know full well that 2...
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    Will Christ utter new words in a Premil millennium?

    Get real at least. Nobody can mistake the 2nd coming once it happens. No one can have lived through the 2nd coming then be deceived about it after the millennium. As if it is possible to question whether the 2nd coming ever happened after it happened. Per Premil it will be obvious when we are in...
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    Will Christ utter new words in a Premil millennium?

    Assuming we are in the millennium right now, what could be some things that would undeniably prove it? Per Premil, assuming that view is the correct view, it will be obvious when we are in the millennium and know that we are. Per this view the millennium can't even begin until Christ bodily...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    Every question is apparently ridiculous to you. As if some of us have zero reason to ask some of the questions we do. We just like to ask alleged ridiculous questions in order to annoy someone, I guess. That aside. Apparently AI is just as confused about things as some of you are. First I...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    As to the Op of this thread. Something I need to point out yet again, is this. Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    The following is one veiew of Revelation 14:14. Personally, I favor it, which means the angel in question is not literally Christ Himself. Now there are no contradtions with anything in Matthew 13 when viewing it like that. When viewing it like this it does not contradict what a simile means. I...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    If you were an Amil rather than a Premil it would at least make sense to apply what I brought up per Matthew 13 to be meaning after the millennium. After all, that would not remotely contradict an Amil view. But it does contradict a Premil view since what I brought up per Matthew 13 is clearly...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    IOW, 'one sat like unto' is not a simile, or that it is a simile, except in this case it contradicts what a simile means?
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    The "watch rapture view"

    Are you serious? Do you not see that as of the 7th seal it then leads to the 7 trumpets? For example, do you seriously think Revelation 11 and the 6th trumpet pertaining to the 2Ws prophesying, then being made war against after they finish their testimony, is meaning after the 6th seal has...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    Unlike some of the rest of you I am not even convinced that that is meaning Jesus. For one, it contradicts Matthew 13:39 if it is supposed to be meaning Jesus. Does this mean JWs have been correct all along, that Jesus is not an uncreated God, that He is a created angel? After all, the verse...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    Why would you or anyone think great tribulation starts at the end of the 6th seal when the 5th seal already involves great tribulation? How can anyone, or why would anyone, disagree that the little season meant in Revelation 6:11 = great tribulation = the 42 month reign of the beast...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    For example. Before Christ left the planet He already said to watch for His return. Does this mean He could have returned the same day He left? 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be...
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    In the book of Revelation it mentions 'a little season' twice.

    First of all, per some of what you said, are you implying Midtrib? That aside since I can't agree with that if this is what you are implying, finally someone else apparently on the same page with me about some of these other things, though. Per my view it might look like this. Daniel 12:9...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    And that would be before 70 AD, right? Therefore, the holy place meant in Matthew 24:15 couldn't possibly be meaning the 2nd temple before it was destroyed.
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    Will Christ utter new words in a Premil millennium?

    Isn't that basically PostMil, though? Here is something you probably didn't think of. Look at the mess caused by one view interpreting something in this manner, another view interpreting that same thing in another manner, so on and so on. The point being, assuming someone is right, not...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I do not remotely agree with that. Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the...
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    In the book of Revelation it mentions 'a little season' twice.

    1. Who are Gog and Magog? Revelation 20:8 already tells us who they are--- the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth. Which then tells me that they are living outside of Jerusalem, not in the midst of it instead. 2. How do they grow to a number as the sand of the sea in...
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    In the book of Revelation it mentions 'a little season' twice.

    You scoff at the idea that people would rebel after 1,000 years of Christ’s physical reign on Earth, pretty much saying it makes Premil laughable. But have you forgotten how the story began? Adam and Eve lived in perfect conditions. God was literally present with them. They knew Him...
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    In the book of Revelation it mentions 'a little season' twice.

    LOL right back at your absurd nonsense that only Amils could be naive enough to fall for. Your version of the millennium is a complete disconnect with what happened in the beginning per satan and Eve. You argue absurd nonsense, such as, if Christ is bodily present on the earth during the...