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I'm sorry to have to be blunt here, but an interpretation such as this, belongs in the trash, not something even remotely worthy of considering/entertaining. Maybe some feel the same way about the OP? But if they could only actually accept that every single thing recorded in verse 27 is...

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon...

Let me provide an example of something. The sheep and goats judgment and the way I interpret that. Before there was the internet, I already interpreted the sheep and goats judgment in the manner I still do. No church I ever attended interpreted it in this manner. Never read any books where...

I have to wonder if the sign of the Son of man can maybe be understood in the following sense? Ppl are sitting at a bus stop awaiting the arrival of a bus. One person asks, shouldn't that bus have already arrived by now? Do you see any sign of it anywhere? Then 5 minutes later the sign of it...

In the next post after yours here, #77, I finally try and deal with some of that. I guess better late than never.

On this side of life, of course. But Revelation 20:4 involves saints that were physically alive then martyred, thus in a disembodied state. And what you submitted above that I quoted, none of that could possibly be relevant to someone in a disembodied state. What I'm wanting Amils to deal...

I don't dispute that the parable you submitted via Matthew 22 pertained to what eventually happened in 70 AD. In the parable though, the King and the Son are not the same person. Just like per the trinity the Father and Son are not the same person. That parable says it was the King's armies, not...

It seems to me, for example, take Pretrib. There might be millions that believe that doctrine to be true, rather than just one person believing it to be true. This would still be an example of a private interpretation regardless that millions are interpreting it in the same manner. A private...

What about Revelation 20:4 though, and how Amils like yourself have them reigning in heaven in a disembodied state after they have been martyred and are awaiting the resurrection of their body? How can Hebrews 12:22-24 possibly apply to someone while in a disembodied state?

@Douggg brought up Revelation 6 where you then applied the 6th seal to 70 AD. The thing is though, pertaining to what occurred in 70 AD, those things involved literal events. To then apply Revelation 6 and the 6th seal to 70 AD would mean the following, for example, is something that literally...

What I need to understand about your view, which I'm failing to understand is, are you applying the millennium before or after Christ's 2nd coming? If before, that can fit both Amil and Postmil. If after, that can only fit Premil. If you are neither Amil nor Postmil, this makes you Premil and...

Meaning this in general when it comes to things like this. To make things even simpler, one can't conclude that something in particular explains something just because a verse or two sounds like it can fit what one proposes explains it. An example. Ezekiel 38:21 and how that appears it could...

You and I still on the same page here, I think. Actually, what I found reasonable was this portion---"what Paul describes in Ephesians 2:4-6 already happened for (was already applied to) them at some point during their lives here on earth. They, having been dead in their sin, were born again of...

Isaiah 24:21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth. 22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many...

Are you perhaps SDA? I know they believe the thousand year reign takes place in heaven, which would mean they are in an immortal bodily state in that case. Other Premils, such as me, typically take the thousand year reign to be upon the earth.

You must be a different Marty than the one I recall on BibleForums years ago. The Marty I recall back then didn't take things like that personal like you are taking it here. I wasn't being sarcastic nor insulting, I was half heartedly joking. I won't do that any more since you apparently now...

This is interesting. What state do you assume they will be in when beginning to do that? A disembodied state? Or a resurrected immortal bodily state?

That's reasonable. And the way I look at things in general, if something is at least reasonable, it should then at least be worthy of considering. You haven't changed my mind at this point, but I do at least admit that what you have submitted, that it is reasonable. Now if Amils could only...

As if that makes sense when we factor in the last 7 vials of wrath, that somehow all of those events will be fulfilled within a 24 hour period or less. Revelation 16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. 9 And men were...

Except per Amil, this according to some Amils, these in verse 4---the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands---are...