River Jordan
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I have seen it....a few times. Do you have a specific case in mind?ChristianJuggarnaut said:Watch the movie expelled. You'll see many.
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I have seen it....a few times. Do you have a specific case in mind?ChristianJuggarnaut said:Watch the movie expelled. You'll see many.
You quoted one biologist and a German who died about 100 years ago. And I didn't ignore them, I asked what you think those quotes demonstrate, and you didn't answer.ChristianJuggarnaut said:Because it's not just my "baseless say-so" as I've quoted you many others, which you have conveniently ignored.
I never said that at all. I'll ask again....why do you seem to think that including countries like Brazil and Argentina will flip the conclusion from "most evoultionists are theists" to "most evolutionists are atheists"?Again, you are suggesting adding variables has no influence on outcome.
If this is the best response you can muster, I'll just leave it alone.Thanks for admitting that youth are leaving the church because of science. I appreciate the honesty. We'll just have to disagree about whose fault it is.
Um.....ok...... :wacko:Pretending is beneath you. Please stop. You know that we could go to what is a population? You know this leads to micro/macro debate. We will keep this on task.
Then help me out here. What standard are you applying to evolution to conclude it is atheistic, that if you also applied it to plate tectonics wouldn't make it atheistic?Straw man fallacy much? Or just when necessary?
Nope, not random. The laws of physics make sure of that. God created a universe that actually works without the need for Him to keep tinkering with it.So, the universe, life, is not random? If not random who/what drives the change in a nonrandom way?
Um.......huh? :blink: You don't know that natural selection, by its very definition, is non-random? I mean.....that's the whole point of the "selection" part!Survival, reproduction is still random when acting on random variations.
Well you don't side with Behe either (he accepts the reality of universal common ancestry, including between humans and other primates). And no, Genesis was not written as a scientific paper, so there's no reason to interpret it as such.ID makes perfect sense, you need not side with Behe on this just give us your version of intelligent design. Do you not discount Genesis as unscientific but accept Matthew as fact? Please enlighten us.
Yeah, that was a pretty bad movie. Creationists should be more careful making claims about cases where there is actual documentation of what really happened. And relevant to this thread, did you know that while going around promoting the movie, Ben Stein said on TV that "science leads you to killing people"? Pretty sad IMO.Yes, I'm sure you were forwarded the talking points concerning each individual in the movie and are well prepared for a further hatchet job. I'm just not interested.