no but any honest Christians will get the humor of a doctrine that unsaves Abraham himself! and the sad state of a so-called teacher that cant answer such a simple question. and not sure who is more to be made fun of? that false teacher or the poor people who follow such ignorant doctrine ? many will get it!
i bet if you guys keep working at it you can even unsave some of the Apostles? i know epi has tried to bring doubts on Pauls salvation! you might even get yourself to the cross and put your whole little group on it! then you guys can begin to unsave each other? who will be the last one of you guys saved is the only question now? we are waiting to see which of you guys is the real christ? by the way, my guess its the epi guy! but the whit stone guy looks pretty good too!
your doctrines are as sad as any i have seen! the mormons make you look silly? at least joseph smith had an angel and a little hat to look into! you guys need to get something cool like that!
I don't know you or anyone else here, but the spirit you manifest is ugly so far. I have been here a week or so and see the three who are filled with the Spirit of Holiness, Episkopos, Axhead and dragonfly, perhaps some others I hope.
Also, I've read through here and nothing that was said should have caused you to act evil or accuse others of being false teachers, nor has anyone introduced a "doctrine" as you claim, that Abraham isn't saved.
So you appear only to be a non-christian trouble maker so far from what I witness. But I hope you can show me otherwise.
I referred to that link you posted of Kidron’s topic on “how to understand you sin…’ and could not find any posts of yours. Were you perhaps meaning a different topic? Also, a reminder that I’m not following a lot of topics as I don’t have the time. It is likely that I have not read all your posts in other topics.
You suggested I should have a testimony like Episkopos and see Epi as my brother. This is hardly a persuasive argument especially considering the false gospel Epi has pushed here. Besides, Epi does not see many here as his brothers other than the likes of you, Axehead and Co.
Epi has demonstrated no spiritual understanding. Others here have described his gospel as an ‘on-again-off-again salvation’, ‘complicated’ and ‘obfuscation’, etc. It’s hard to imagine any sincere Christian would present themselves in such a manner when supposedly sharing the gospel. I suspect he does this deliberately, probably to try to deceive others here with a false gospel.
Anyway, below are some quotes taken from posts made by Epi. I couldn’t find all the quotes I hoped for but I don’t have the time to be searching any further. Also consider the quotes I posted earlier.
TOPIC: True Repentance Epi #18 You have made yourself a child of God by what you believe……….. Here if we measure delusion by the pound...it is far easier to justify yourself through a belief than through a work.
TOPIC: Are Christians sinners #23 The power of the gospel makes one walk exactly as Jesus did on earth. No difference. As Jesus IS so are WE in this world. So the victory over sin is not one of God turning a blind eye to our antics in the flesh...NO!!!...... So rather than lowering the standard to make more people walk in...we are to uphold the standard of God (even to our own hurt) and look to Him for the needed empowerment to fulfill the law. The law is holy. Only the holy ones in Christ will fulfill it.
#38 Believing in Jesus without the power to walk as Jesus is pointless in regards eternity.
#82 You are not a follower of Christ unless you are walking by His Spirit. Otherwise you are just claiming a belief in a scheme you have invented from a few bible verses.
#87 I (Epi) do not ALWAYS walk in the Spirit. (In another post I hope one day to find, he admits he still sometimes sins)
#90 But the soul that sins...it shall die.
Epi admits he still sins at times, hence he is not always walking in the Spirit. We see also Epi describes the law as holy and spiritual, just as described in Rom 7:12,14 of the 10 commandments. And remember that Epi said we are not immune to any law.
As for that question regarding what if professing Christian died whilst in disobedience…?
We see scripture differently and therefore see disobedience differently. A professing Christian in disobedience is one who is not believing God’s promise of salvation in Christ. For example some profess to know Christ yet by their works (of the law) they deny him. They are fornicator's, like Esau who sold his birthright (Heb 12:15,16).
As for behaviour/lifestyle in this imperfect physical life, we differ greatly.
To be continued. It's late here.
You questioned if I had never heard of perfect obedience to the law in this physical life. I have heard of a similar doctrine to yours. It was from the Seventh Day Adventists. Other than that I have not encountered such doctrine before.
The reason you haven't heard the doctrine episkopos repeats out of scripture is because you err not knowing scriptures Haz.
I haven't seen where episkopos says he still sins, you are welcome to copy and paste it. But I sure don't continue in sin. You can copy and paste that statement if you like, if you believe otherwise, you are welcome to tell me what my unrepentant sin(s) is.
Also, the statements you quoted of Episkopos, none of them are false statements, all true statemenst generated from within a man who is led by Christ, the Holy Spirit within Him, that gives knowledge wisdom and understanding in the deep things of the Spirit of God.
I have only seen that from a couple or so others here. I know them because the same Spirit of Christ is in me and we are One Body and know each other by His Spirit.
I don't know you nor do I care to, those of you who attack the pure Word of God as presented by Dragonfly, Axehead and Episdopos. For such folk are not known by Christ Jesus because they haven't asked Jesus to COME and LIVE within you/them and therefore is glaringly evident in your evil carnal speech and accusations, such as also obvious with Stan, Strat, Dave and Andy... so far...