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Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged and Let He Who is Without Sin Cast the First Stone

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jamesrage

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Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged!andLet He Who is Without Sin Cast the First StoneI have occasionally on different political forums seen fake christians use the scriptures regarding Jesus not condemning the adulteress or "Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged!" as some sort of religious Monopoly sin-all-you-want card and that some how stating that someone is sinning or that something is a sin is somehow a form of condemnation or judging.They always leave out the part where he told the woman to sin no more when ever they mention "Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone".Personally I think these scriptures relate only to hypocrosy,not letting someone do what ever they want with out telling them they are sinning.I seen a interesting and accurate article on it.
http://www.capalert.com/judgenot.htmMatt. 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged."This is the verse so many use to try to shame Christians for discerning poor behavior, ethics, morals, and values: the "judge not lest ye be judged" verse. So many times people, mostly teens have emailed us saying "judge not lest you be judged" regarding our analysis reports which reveal to their parents the content of movies. Using only Matt 7:1 is entirely incomplete. This verse is not speaking to not judging at all -- it is speaking to not judging unfair or any other cheap and selfish way. Read the rest of the story ...snip...."Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."This is another counterfeiting of the Scriptures many have tried to use to shame us for what we do in his name. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" is not speaking judging. Let me explain.Using the KJV this time, in John 8:1 - 11 scribes and Pharisees had caught a woman in the act of adultery (the woman commonly referred to as the prostitute) and told Jesus who was teaching in the temple that the Mosaic Law required she be stoned to death. Trying to make an opportunity of this to trick Jesus that they might accuse Him, they, with stones in hand, asked Jesus what He says about the Law. After Jesus tried to ignore their repeated questioning, He told them "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." One by one each man dropped his stone and walked away.Jesus was not arguing with the judgment. Nor was Jesus arguing the law nor the woman's guilt. Jesus was arguing with our right to execute the woman. Once all the men had dropped their stones Jesus confronted the woman and asked her if any of the men were still there to condemn her. When she answered "No man, Lord", Jesus told her that neither did He - He forgave her of her sin. He did not excuse the sin of adultery/prostitution, he forgave her of it. All that is sinful before forgiveness is still sinful after forgiveness. Not only was Jesus not afraid to call a sin a sin, He was not afraid to call a sinner a sinner. He even reminded her of the sin of adultery/prostitution by telling her "Go and sin no more."
Here is another similar article on it.
http://www.bcbsr.com/books/john8a.htmlHere's a passage often abused by the licentious. The religious elite wanted to challenge Jesus with a controvesial issue so as to force him to make an unpopular decision one way or another. First we notice that they took a woman who was in the very act of committing adultery. So if she was in the "very act", then where is the man she was committing adultery with? Perhaps one these very men themselves had lured her into committing adultery. We don't know if this woman was a prostitute, in which case it would have been easy enough by paying her to commit adultery, or if she was an ordinary housewife or young woman committing adultery with a married man. These latter may have been held with more sympathy among the crowd and thus may have been more likely the target these religious leaders chose, so as to enrage the crowd against Jesus if he chose to stone her.The Law states: "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife-- with the wife of his neighbor-- both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death." Lev 20:10 Actually if I were Jesus here I'd probably first ask for them to present the adulterer before continuing. But in a sense Jesus does this. What did he write in the sand? I think he most likely wrote down the 10 commandments just as he did when he presented them to Moses. "When the LORD finished speaking to Moses on Mount Sinai, he gave him the two tablets of the Testimony, the tablets of stone inscribed by the finger of God." Ex 31:18 In this way he was preparing the people for his response. For though she broke the law, so has everyone else in various areas.Jesus did not speak against the law here. He did not disagree with the law. (After all, he wrote it!) He simply requested that in this particular case for this particular woman that the person throwing the first stone at her in accordance with the law be without sin. This turned the tables on her accusers. For as Solomon has said, "There is not a righteous man on earth who does what is right and never sins." Ecc 7:20 They could have further challenged Jesus asking what gives him the right to impose such a requirement. But then again Jesus could have pressed them further concerning their individual sins and found each of them worthy of death as well. Thus playing the "sin" card diffused the situation.But was Jesus condoning adultery? Certainly not. He told the woman to go and sin no more. Yet today in popular antinomian Christianity if you were to tell the licentious not to sin any more then you will be condemned by others as if you were throwing stones! Indeed if you follow Jesus' example you will be the one the religious elite will thrown stones at!

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good observationI think many Christians error when they combine the above with love your neighbor as yourself and love one another doctrine. Anyone that truly understands love knows it comes with correction. As Jesus corrected the woman. Many today think that loving everyone means accepting their behavior because it would be cruel or politically incorrect to condemn there actions. This is wrong thinking. Sometimes loving someone means condemning their actions. Not accepting them
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Thanks we need the studies they are wonderful
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good observationI think many Christians error when they combine the above with love your neighbor as yourself and love one another doctrine. Anyone that truly understands love knows it comes with correction. As Jesus corrected the woman. Many today think that loving everyone means accepting their behavior because it would be cruel or politically incorrect to condemn there actions. This is wrong thinking. Sometimes loving someone means condemning their actions. Not accepting them
You are so right about that Kriss. Love does mean condemning people actions.And yes these are great wonderful studies.Lovest ye in Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour.
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good observationI think many Christians error when they combine the above with love your neighbor as yourself and love one another doctrine.
I do not think the mistake is unintentional.I believe it is deliberate that many people calling themselves Christians do this.
Anyone that truly understands love knows it comes with correction. As Jesus corrected the woman. Many today think that loving everyone means accepting their behavior because it would be cruel or politically incorrect to condemn there actions. This is wrong thinking. Sometimes loving someone means condemning their actions. Not accepting them
I agree.Not telling a person their mistakes is the same as allowing them to continue to make those mistakes,thus allowing them to fail.
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I do not think the mistake is unintentional.I believe it is deliberate that many people calling themselves Christians do this.
I can not disagree with you with all the political correctness and feel good doctrine creeping into the church I can not deny that much of this is intentional
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I can not disagree with you with all the political correctness and feel good doctrine creeping into the church I can not deny that much of this is intentional
I believe most of the mainstream theologies are deliberate twisting, IMHO.
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I can not disagree with you with all the political correctness and feel good doctrine creeping into the church I can not deny that much of this is intentional
Do you attend Church, Kriss?
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James 1:26 If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. 27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
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Just wondering if you attend Church, that doesn't answer the question...
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I don't know what this has to do with the thread but the answer is YES everyday.If your asking my denomination I am a Christain who studys Gods word.
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. Sometimes loving someone means condemning their actions. Not accepting them
i'll go ya one better and say that "often times, loving someone means condemning and not accepting their actions"....aka, toddlers.....:pray3:
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I don't know what this has to do with the thread but the answer is YES everyday.If your asking my denomination I am a Christain who studys Gods word.
I am with you kriss, everyone who are working for God is my church and I have many people with me even though I am not phisically with them. I have been supporting everyone who are serving God. Every Christians whom I am contacting and encountering is my fellowshipping with them. This forum is one of my Church too. BTW, I count my family as my church too since we are all working towards Gods' purpose.thank you everyone for accepting me in this forum.style_emoticons/default/smile.gif Of course, I am not forgetting thanking Jusus for this forum.style_emoticons/default/smile.gif
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