Church Choose money over Truth

[Wrangler]

This is an article, I feel needed to be written for a long time, decades. It’s clear to me the church has made itself irrelevant in the public square. It’s shifted to be overly spiritualized, ignoring the body, the soulful aspect of our being. Consequently, America suffers from bad governance. See $35T debt, lawlessness via open borders allowing drugs, crime and human trafficking in the shining City on a Hill.

The 501(c)(3) heresy is destroying the church and America * WorldNetDaily * by George Bailey

'For the first time in American history, churches began to pull back politically'

www.wnd.com

Hell has open borders.
Heaven has a guarded gate with a strict immigration policy.

 

[Wynona]

This is an article, I feel needed to be written for a long time, decades. It’s clear to me the church has made itself irrelevant in the public square. It’s shifted to be overly spiritualized, ignoring the body, the soulful aspect of our being. Consequently, America suffers from bad governance. See $35T debt, lawlessness via open borders allowing drugs, crime and human trafficking in the shining City on a Hill.

The 501(c)(3) heresy is destroying the church and America * WorldNetDaily * by George Bailey

'For the first time in American history, churches began to pull back politically'

www.wnd.com

Hell has open borders.
Heaven has a guarded gate with a strict immigration policy.

Now Christians are being taught that using Scripture to back up political views is "weaponizing the Bible".

But the Bible is not neutral. It's a sword. I disagree that Christians should be apolitical as long as their focus is still the Kingdom.

 

[Wrangler]

Now Christians are being taught that using Scripture to back up political views is "weaponizing the Bible".

Satan has taken ownership of the church. Instead of The Armor of God, Scripture is practically used only for prosperity and feeling good spiritually.

I’m reminded of Jesus saying he does not know people who perform even miracles in his name because they did not take care of the least in society.

Allowing people to be raped and murdered from invaders at the Southern border is just one example. I sense the end is near. One Pastor said Trump will be America’s last President. See the great whore destroyed in Revelation.

 

[Wynona]

Satan has taken ownership of the church. Instead of The Armor of God, Scripture is practically used only for prosperity and feeling good spiritually.

Ugh. How true this is!

 

[GodsGrace]

Satan has taken ownership of the church. Instead of The Armor of God, Scripture is practically used only for prosperity and feeling good spiritually.

I’m reminded of Jesus saying he does not know people who perform even miracles in his name because they did not take care of the least in society.

Allowing people to be raped and murdered from invaders at the Southern border is just one example. I sense the end is near. One Pastor said Trump will be America’s last President. See the great whore destroyed in Revelation.

Hey Wrangler
You still around?
The church is supposed to teach US....
Not the other way around.

I would just give up.
What you described is not acceptable.

 

[Wrangler]

Hey Wrangler
You still around?
The church is supposed to teach US....
Not the other way around.

I would just give up.
What you described is not acceptable.

Thank you. It is unanimous that I should leave. I left that congregation but my faith in Jesus is not impacted. PTL.

Although you have many posts, I do not recall ever seeing your posts before today. Welcome back.

 

[GodsGrace]

Thank you. It is unanimous that I should leave. I left that congregation but my faith in Jesus is not impacted. PTL.

Although you have many posts, I do not recall ever seeing your posts before today. Welcome back.

Thanks W.
Was here before you.
Left, can't handle more than one site.
Came back for varying reasons.
I know you from the other site.


PS
It's always man that makes mistakes and is an impediment to God.
Jesus remains the same.

 

[Windmill Charge]

It’s clear to me the church has made itself irrelevant in the public square. I

Which church/denomination?

 

[Wrangler]

Which church/denomination?

Except for Eastern Orthodox, all of them.

 

[quietthinker]

Church Choose money over Truth​

Is this a revelation or has it been standard practice for all humanity for millennia?

 

[Taken]

Church Choose money over Truth

Not a new phenomena … but spot on…becoming more and more popular…
Greed for the coffers, fill the pews and preach what the people want to hear…regardless if it is not true.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Windmill Charge]

Except for Eastern Orthodox, all of them.

That is a tremendously broad statement, you have personal knowledge of how every church handles money?
Or is it just a biased statement based on the 3xperience of a few churches.

 

[Wrangler]

That is a tremendously broad statement, you have personal knowledge of how every church handles money?

Yes, I have personal knowledge of every churches role in the public square, smart guy!. FYI, The issue is not about money but churches avoiding political issues of the day.

Except for Eastern Orthodox, all of them.

It’s clear to me the church has made itself irrelevant in the public square.

How I have personal knowledge of every single denomination is their silence in the public square. Of course, some churches may have attempted to influence the public square when my attention was elsewhere. However, that I don't know about it shows their ineffectual since I'm looking, asking. And you know what the Bible says about asking.

Matthew 7: 7 (VOICE) Just ask and it will be given to you;

 

[Windmill Charge]

The issue is not about money but churches avoiding political issues of the day.

Christian influence is not about making and getting reported, statements about today's issues.

News editors only publish what is news worthy for there political slant.

Every church that faithfully teaches, preaches the gospel is making a political statement, in that it is influencing people.

 

[amigo de christo]

That is a tremendously broad statement, you have personal knowledge of how every church handles money?
Or is it just a biased statement based on the 3xperience of a few churches.

It seems broad indeed . Till one examines well the church and churches .
Our dear friend who wrote that statement has barley even scratched the surface .
I have examined . of course not all churches cause no one can do that in a life time .
But and this is the key , but the ones i did examine were falling far far short of the mark .
And i dont mean just your error here and there , I mean RIGHT ON THEY FACE FLAT fall .
Windmill , if a man would but read the scrips
and love and embrace them lovely words , much wisdom can indeed be found .
What Even JERSUALEM did and got crushed at least twice for doing so
CHRISTENDOM in large is doing RIGHT NOW .
You go read the prophets . You see what they preach and who sits under them and just sups up their every word
THEN you will see . Sure at first when one is newer or more unlearned they wont say false false
But i guarantee the longer one stays centered on CHRIST and in that bible
THEY GONNA SEE we got wolves all over christendom . And as i wrote afore and above
i aint talking about some errors , I MEAN fully grown well praticed WOLVES in the house .

 

[amigo de christo]

Christian influence is not about making and getting reported, statements about today's issues.

News editors only publish what is news worthy for there political slant.

Every church that faithfully teaches, preaches the gospel is making a political statement, in that it is influencing people.

True . every church that faithfully teaches , preaches the gospel is making a dire necessary statement , it is influencing people all right .
BUT THE PROBLEM IS , THE GOSPEL OF THE TRUE JESUS CHRIST , i aint seeing it getting preached
i see either prosperity or this social all inclusive mess , which even now the prosperity ones are teaching
ALL OVER the place . another so called gospel under the guise of what IT calleth love and tolerance , and finding common ground
HAS replaced the ONE TRUE GOSPEL .
Sins are overlooked , then in time become accepted .
Correction and the biblical pattern for correction IS GONE and thus sin has leaven up and rises to the full .
And all done by IT . He who desires to be AS GOD . He got them my friend and he did so
by men from within . The only love i seem to see today in MOST places
is the love that hollers JUDGE NOT haters , unto those who do come to correct the massive sin and error within their churches .
The love that overlooked and overlooks sins and errors and in time causes it to become more as the norm .
The love which has absolutely made the path to GOD VERY VERY BROAD as it even now includes all religions
as finding their own way to GOD .
The love that sure seems to love that which pleases man and the flesh
BUT , and this is key , BRING A BIBLE INTO CHURCH and start reading ALL things that includes ALL things
the apostels wrote , AND I CAN BET YA , YOU WONT SEE or hear MUCH LOVE from their lips .
Their love has turned them against THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH , OF GOD . This is not about to bode well either .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes, I have personal knowledge of every churches role in the public square, smart guy!. FYI, The issue is not about money but churches avoiding political issues of the day.




How I have personal knowledge of every single denomination is their silence in the public square. Of course, some churches may have attempted to influence the public square when my attention was elsewhere. However, that I don't know about it shows their ineffectual since I'm looking, asking. And you know what the Bible says about asking.

Matthew 7: 7 (VOICE) Just ask and it will be given to you;

Churches avoiding political issues .
You know what i see , churches avoidiing BIBLICAL ISSUES , avoiding the one true gospel
preaching rather a socially engineered one that focuses NOT ON the TRUE GOD
not on HIS GOSPEL , Not on correction and the biblical pattern
not on the LOVE of GOD
but rather on the love of the world that came cloaked in , under the guise of men gone wrong .
I see a lot of talk about lets find common ground
BUT I DONT SEE ANY talk about LETS WIN SOULS TO JESUS THE CHRIST by the preaching of the ONE TRUE GOSPLE .
I see lots of talk about loving your neighbor , BUT NONE about WHO WE WERE TO LOVE FIRST above and before all .
The version of love thy neighbor has become SHUT YOUR MOUTH DONT JUDGE , JUST FIND COMMON GROUND
it dont matter what religoin they follow or beleive , Hey we all serve GOD in different ways .
IN OTHER WORDS is a lie from hades being sold as being love and of GOD .

 

[amigo de christo]

and folks want me to vote for the same ones that are helping to usher this delusion into the church and the world .
Count me out of that .
ITs time for an all out return to the biblical pattern for all things .
to the preaching of the one true gospel of JESUS the CHRIST and not the sociallly engineered one of clever men gone wrong .
as far as issues , yeah i would vote on that . as far as these men who do the work
and deception , no sir .
Now i am not saying at all that harris or trump is hitler .
BUT i am gonna use hitler as an example .
Hitler did what pratically had ever well known physcologist and men baffled .
HE actually promised to make germany prosperious again . AND HE DID IT .
HE turned that down trodden ecomony into a flourishing one , per say .
Even well known historians and others had said , HAD hitler died before His great war
HE had went down in history as HITLER THE GREAT . scary huh .

 

[Wrangler]

Christian influence is not about making and getting reported, statements about today's issues.

I wrote nothing about getting reported. It’s about taking a stand - specifically with the flock, and at large, in general, so that the general public is aware of where the church stands on an issue (if they pull info, not have it pushed by legacy media).

Consider 2 months before an election each sermon dedicated to what the Bible says on each of the top 5 issues of the day. Sermon 1 on Topic 5, Sermon 2 on Topic 4, etc.

 

[amigo de christo]

I wrote nothing about getting reported. It’s about taking a stand - specifically with the flock, and at large, in general, so that the general public is aware of where the church stands on an issue (if they pull info, not have it pushed by legacy media).

Consider 2 months before an election each sermon dedicated to what the Bible says on each of the top 5 issues of the day. Sermon 1 on Topic 5, Sermon 2 on Topic 4, etc.

taking a stand . do you realize that many within the churches of hitlers day took a stand too .
TO SUPPORT and HOPE IN HIM .
WE should have stuck to JESUS and the gospel not to the nars realm , prosperity realm , even liberal realm
who all put the hope of the church INTO POLITICS and MEN .
This world aint gonna make it taken . much as a i weep for many , and i do mean weep
i cannot save one soul . I can only point to HE who can and use all biblical doctrine to instruct .
We better get our heads out of the sands of men and back into THE BIBLE OF GOD .