Limited atonement is a false gospel

[Rockerduck]

So you actually go out and tell people that "meh, God decided some people cannot ever get saved, so you're probably called to go to hell"

If one really believes the false doctrines of calvinism, then they can't go out and witness to people because they would have to tell most people that God created them to go to hell

Not one person ever born can tell who will be saved or not, nor who is saved. Only God knows, so you preach to any and all, then let God do the harvesting.

Read the Sheeps and goat's parable and the Wheat and tare's parable. Those are the words of Jesus, not me.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Not one person ever born can tell who will be saved or not, nor who is saved. Only God knows, so you preach to any and all, then let God do the harvesting.

Calvinism claims God has not only predetermined who will be saved, but also they claim those folks will be saved no matter what.

So thanks for showing that you don't really believe the tenants of calvinism

Those that really believe and follow the tenants of calvinism cannot go out and witness to people and try to win the lost.

If they did they are violating calvinist doctrine and they would never want to anger their master

 

[Rockerduck]

Calvinism claims God has not only predetermined who will be saved, but also they claim those folks will be saved no matter what.

So thanks for showing that you don't really believe the tenants of calvinism

Those that really believe and follow the tenants of calvinism cannot go out and witness to people and try to win the lost.

If they did they are violating calvinist doctrine and they would never want to anger their master

I don't quote ism's or mention his name. Only you bring it into a discussion, not on the merits of doctrine.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

I don't quote ism's or mention his name. Only you bring it into a discussion, not on the merits of doctrine.

Many are greatly influenced by false doctrine these days regardless of where it originated from.

Others know fully well they are calvinists and seek to hide that early on as their were taught this deception in seminary or bible college

They want to conceal their being a calvinists so they can gradually bring their heretical calvinist doctrine in.

 

[One 2 question]

Calvinism claims God has not only predetermined who will be saved, but also they claim those folks will be saved no matter what.

So thanks for showing that you don't really believe the tenants of calvinism

Those that really believe and follow the tenants of calvinism cannot go out and witness to people and try to win the lost.

If they did they are violating calvinist doctrine and they would never want to anger their master

I guess Christ's Father had chosen 12 men to be Jesus's first disciples.

The same Person has chosen the church to reign with Christ for a set period of His kingdom.

The rest of His created beings, be they human or spirit will be redeemed, reconciled and appointed a role in the Father's timeless endless kingdom.

Now that's good news, fantastic news! The irresistible love of God manifested in His unlimited grace to all, all who will not be able to resist such relentless love, invasive grace, penetrating mercy. Eventually the patient endurance of God's love will win over every single being so that His will is done, not willing that any perish but that all come to repentance and are saved, redeemed and reconciled to their Creator. Awesome news!

 

[Runningman]

Many are greatly influenced by false doctrine these days regardless of where it originated from.

Others know fully well they are calvinists and seek to hide that early on as their were taught this deception in seminary or bible college

They want to conceal their being a calvinists so they can gradually bring their heretical calvinist doctrine in.

I can't remember which board I saw it on (possibly this one) but a Calvinist said that is their goal. They want to go into churches and subtlely implant Calvinism step by step.

I have seen strong opponents of Calvinism actually hold the same Calvinist beliefs they argue against. They just didn't realize it until their beliefs were closely cross-examined with TULIP.

Sometimes we need to take inventory of what we are actually believing and saying. It's incredibly easy to get caught up in some idea we saw in a commentary, discussion, debate, devotional, etc. It may have sounded good in the context, but ultimately stands contary to Scripture. That's how they work a lot of times. Give you 9 truths and 1 lie every day until after 10 days they give you 10 lies. Unfortunately this works.

That's how propanda works. They often won't directly tell you "No you're wrong about all of that, here's the truth" because it'll provoke arguments and resistance which is what they don't want.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

They want to go into churches and subtlely implant Calvinism step by step.

Yep, in their seminaries they teach those studying to be pastors to conceal their belief in calvinism until after they have been hired as pastor at a church and then they little by little began to bring in clavinist doctrine to indoctrinate the people gradually.

Most people don't know the difference between beans and bananas when it come to God's Word so they fall right in to the calvinist cult and sadly end up spending eternity in hell.

 

[David Lamb]

I can't remember which board I saw it on (possibly this one) but a Calvinist said that is their goal. They want to go into churches and subtlely implant Calvinism step by step.

I have seen strong opponents of Calvinism actually hold the same Calvinist beliefs they argue against. They just didn't realize it until their beliefs were closely cross-examined with TULIP.

Sometimes we need to take inventory of what we are actually believing and saying. It's incredibly easy to get caught up in some idea we saw in a commentary, discussion, debate, devotional, etc. It may have sounded good in the context, but ultimately stands contary to Scripture. That's how they work a lot of times. Give you 9 truths and 1 lie every day until after 10 days they give you 10 lies. Unfortunately this works.

That's how propanda works. They often won't directly tell you "No you're wrong about all of that, here's the truth" because it'll provoke arguments and resistance which is what they don't want.

Let me start by stating the obvious: I don't know every Calvinist in the world, so there might well be some who call themselves Calvinists who do what you say and infiltrate churches to try to change the beliefs of those churches. What I can say, however, is that of all the Calvinists I have known or whose works I have read, I have never come across such a thing.

 

[Taken]

How does our spirit know that it’s Born Again...which is not off topic...

He who KNOWS “the spirit of man”…
“according to Gods Word…
IS God and the man.”

1 Cor 2:
[11] For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

Limited atonement is a false gospel

Amen and Amen!!

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

I guess Christ's Father had chosen 12 men to be Jesus's first disciples.

The TWELVE… are our Example “OF”…

* God Chooses… all His “manKIND” creations.

* God Calls…all His “manKIND” creations.

* All…Hear…Gods Word…Calling…Offering.

* Most…(curious, wondering)… TASTE…Gods Offering.

* MANY…(TASTERS)…WILL “Doubt, Deny” Gods and His Word….”Spit OUT His Word”…Walk Away.

* FEW…”TASTERS”…. WILL “EAT” Gods Word.

It is The “EATERS”…who establish a Forever, Relationship with the Lord God Almighty.

IT is the “EATERS”… which the SPIRIT of God, (POWER Greater than All Powers)… saves, quickens, maintains, secures, keeps that man Once and Forever With the Lord God Almighty.

* Judas Iscariot… was chosen, called, answered the calling, TASTED….but Fell Short of “Eating” the Word of God…
Choosing “instead” to (eat the Word of antiGodly men) tickling Judas’ ears with promises of trinkets of Coins, rather Than choosing a promise of an eternal glorious Life with God.

* so also will many be called, Taste, Spit, and Become dust and Forgotten.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[One 2 question]

so they fall right in to the calvinist cult and sadly end up spending eternity in hell.

If they do go to hell and the lake of fire that's up to their Creator when He judges everyone according to what we have done.

But this I'm sure of, every calvinist will be reconciled to God, even if they have to be redeemed from the lake of fire like everyone else who are cast into it.

 

[One 2 question]

so also will many be called, Taste, Spit, and Become dust and Forgotten.

Fortunately they will find God's mercy and grace. They will become recipients of God's love and favour. They, humans and spirits will serve their Creator, never to be alienated from Him again. Now this is the greatest gospel truth I've come to know so far.

 

[One 2 question]

God Chooses… all His “manKIND” creations

God has chosen to redeem who They require to reign with the Messiah in His 1000 year kingdom.

The rest will come into the Father's kingdom later. Then all will be saved and appointed a role to play in this never ending reign. Yay!

 

[One 2 question]

Sometimes we need to take inventory of what we are actually believing and saying. It's incredibly easy to get caught up in some idea we saw in a commentary, discussion, debate, devotional, etc. It may have sounded good in the context, but ultimately stands contary to Scripture. That's how they work a lot of times. Give you 9 truths and 1 lie every day until after 10 days they give you 10 lies. Unfortunately this works.

The great comfort I possess is in knowing that Jesus is responsible for what His body is fed. He feeds His sheep. He, the Vine, gives His Spirit to the branches. And His Father is the Gardener Who oversees, provides and protects His garden.

I rest in this truth. I am NOT responsible for the church, the bride of Christ. I just abide in Christ's body each day of my life until I join Him in His magnificent kingdom, the home He's gone to prepare for us.

 

[Taken]

Fortunately they will find God's mercy and grace. They will become recipients of God's love and favour. They, humans and spirits will serve their Creator, never to be alienated from Him again. Now this is the greatest gospel truth I've come to know so far.

Clearly some men…while alive in “Their human Life (Blood) will reject God” and NOT spend Eternity WITH God.

Gods Mercy “Extends” toward them…. In that, THEY SHALL NOT “Live Forever”…
Thus Shall NOT Live Forever in torments, duress, agony, “Separated From God.”

All Life shall be Be Departed from Them..and their LIFE- Less, body & soul destroyed, know, feel, nothing, They remembered no more.

It is ONLY, “fallen angels” (who Are SPIRITS… That Can NOT Die…) that continue Living in the Lake of Fire, in agony, no escape, separated from God, Forever.

Justice.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

God has chosen to redeem who They require to reign with the Messiah in His 1000 year kingdom.

The rest will come into the Father's kingdom later. Then all will be saved and appointed a role to play in this never ending reign. Yay!

No. All are NOT saved…
However All will Confess Belief. Bow, worship Him, As Scripture Reveals.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[One 2 question]

Clearly some men…while alive in “Their human Life (Blood) will reject God” and NOT spend Eternity WITH God.

Gods Mercy “Extends” toward them…. In that, THEY SHALL NOT “Live Forever”…
Thus Shall NOT Live Forever in torments, duress, agony, “Separated From God.”

All Life shall be Be Departed from Them..and their LIFE- Less, body & soul destroyed, know, feel, nothing, They remembered no more.

It is ONLY, “fallen angels” (who Are SPIRITS… That Can NOT Die…) that continue Living in the Lake of Fire, in agony, no escape, separated from God, Forever.

Justice.

Glory to God,
Taken

The goats live forever in Father's kingdom. More like extras in a movie. Those from Jesus Kingdom the sheep, will play lead roles. This is something to look forward to.

 

[One 2 question]

No. All are NOT saved…
However All will Confess Belief. Bow, worship Him, As Scripture Reveals.

Glory to God,
Taken

The first intake are chosen, saved and reconciled to God to be members of Christ's government when He reigns as King of kings over the earth.

The rest, after suffering a while will be drawn to the God of love, mercy and grace. These will definitely bow their knee and repent, confessing that Jesus is Lord, worshipping Him as their Saviour and Redeemer.

Then ALL will be saved. Then God will be all in all.

 

[Taken]

The first intake are chosen, saved and reconciled to God to be members of Christ's government when He reigns as King of kings over the earth.

The rest, after suffering a while will be drawn to the God of love, mercy and grace. These will definitely bow their knee and repent, confessing that Jesus is Lord, worshipping Him as their Saviour and Redeemer.

Then ALL will be saved. Then God will be all in all.

Disagree.

John 5:
[29] And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Acts 24:
[15] And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

Glory to God,
Taken