You’re right, God is righteous and he did command Israel to kill them.
A bit of a mess in the White House.
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People just die in wars, men, women, children, old and young, animals, it sucks, but Jesus tells us
Luke 21:9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.
Everything is far more televised these days, and its also much easier to deceive people. Like you might hear someone say, don't trust this person/president/ or whoever, but its also the mouth of them which are delivering the news (lies) who target all the same ersons/presidents/ or whoever they might be by weaponizing what we hear (and nowadays see).
It's hard to believe either side, but boy the vitriol in this section shows its working as they want it to, to keep the infighting going.
All you have to do is take a look at the Talmud and it’s clear that they think they’re God’s chosen people and everyone else is subhuman, animals.
I watch videos from sources that most Christians probably would never listen too, left, right, new age or whatever the source may be. I never pay any attention to what they say, I pay attention to the clips they play from actual Israeli people, Rabbi’s or Israeli officials.
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Been there and done that, just take what you know and act on what you are convinced of yourself, because you are going to have to deal with all the vitriol of others who could really care less what you have learned concerning these things. It will take too much time away from the word of God to participate in these back and forths that have zero Spirit of Christ in them. What fruit comes of these threads? None.
No one will convince anyone of anything here.
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I ask the same sort of question, like when Jesus said,
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie.
Who are these claiming to be Jews but Jesus says they are lying about this?
And if that is true, could the same manipulate christians in someway using the same lie?
Jewish Zionist is Jew who believes in Zionism. Zionism is the international bankers plan to create a state for the Jews.
Modern Zionism: Origins & History
1. Early Roots of Zionism (Pre-Rothschild)
- 1700s–1800s (Religious Proto-Zionism)
- Rabbis like Yehuda Alkalai and Zvi Hirsch Kalischer called for a Jewish return to the Land of Israel.
- These were religious-nationalist ideas, not yet a political movement.
- Late 1800s (European Nationalism)
- In Europe, national movements were rising (Italians, Germans, etc.).
- Many Jews, facing persecution and pogroms in Eastern Europe, began to dream of their own homeland.
2. First Aliyah (1882–1903)
- Event: Waves of Jews from Russia and Romania migrated to Ottoman Palestine.
- Challenge: They were poor farmers with little experience in agriculture. Most colonies nearly collapsed.
- A French Rothschild banker, Edmond began funding settlements in the 1880s.
- He supported towns like Rishon LeZion, Zikhron Ya’akov, and Rosh Pinna.
- He built wineries, farms, and infrastructure.
- Because of this, he’s called “The Father of the Yishuv” (Jewish settlement).
3. Herzl and Political Zionism (1896–1904)
- Theodor Herzl, an Austrian journalist, published Der Judenstaat (1896), arguing for a Jewish state.
- Organized the First Zionist Congress (1897) in Basel, Switzerland.
- Created the World Zionist Organization to lobby governments.
- But later, his money and Herzl’s politics came together.
4. Second Aliyah (1904–1914)
- More Jews (especially from Russia after pogroms) migrated to Palestine.
- Established kibbutzim (collective farms) and labor movements.
- Edmond continued financial support through the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association.
5. World War I and the Balfour Declaration (1917)
- Britain issued the Balfour Declaration promising support for “a national home for the Jewish people” in Palestine.
- Recipient: It was addressed to Lord Walter Rothschild, head of the British Zionist Federation.
- Walter acted as a bridge between Zionist leaders and the British government.
6. British Mandate Period (1920–1948)
- Britain governed Palestine after WWI.
- Jewish immigration increased, supported by Zionist organizations (many funded initially by Rothschild).
- Edmond’s foundation bought more land for Jewish settlement.
7. Israel’s Founding (1948)
- After WWII and the Holocaust, international support surged.
- Zionist diplomacy (with strong British ties via the Rothschilds) helped secure U.N. Resolution 181, which partitioned Palestine.
- In 1948, Israel declared independence.
ChatGPT said:
You asked: “How many Jewish children killed in Gaza war?”There are no credible reports indicating that Jewish children have been killed in the Gaza war described by international sources. The overwhelming—virtually exclusive—casualties are Palestinian children in Gaza, as documented by multiple reputable outlets.
I hear what you are saying, considering all the above as I have, I took pause,
What are your thoughts on God's ability to use wicked rulers with no allegiance at all to the God of Israel to fulfill a promise as he did so by Cyrus by allowing the Jews in times past to return from Babylonian captivity and rebuild the temple.
Thats what I hear, I like to just put those questions out there.
I recall a bunch of conversations stirring about Jews and Zionism way back and I asked that question. I said something to the effect, like, "How would I know I am supporting the correct Jews if Jesus tells us there are those who call themselves Jews but are not Jews at all but are lying about being so"? Not to mention, why that little piece of information be important for the churches to know about?
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My opinion…
Jew carries a double meaning…
Race and Religion.
The Race…(Hebrews, Tribes, broadly Jews) were chosen by God to be His People, which carried a huge responsibility, and an agreement / covenant was established.
While the priority leaned primarily toward (religion / spiritual) Jews to be the worlds example for having a relationship with God…
They failed.
While still being Jew (race)…many have failed being faithful religious adherents or encouraging leaders to the world.
While Gentile (race) as a whole does not have the same parallel… that all Gentiles have an established “Gentile Religion”…
I think as well…
Every Gentile “Religious sect” called whatever… have they who claim, this or that “sect”…but have discrepancies in being faithful.
By faithful … “I mean assured in their belief”….
Not talking about, showing up in church, the whatever ritual participation…
Rather genuine Heartfelt belief.
Either race, saying they are “THIS”…but know in their heart they are not.
Glory to God,
Taken
God could use wicked rulers to fulfill promises but the synagogue of Satan isn’t Gods chosen people so God would not be involved with helping the synagogue of Satan in any way.
Zionist, high level Zionist especially, don’t follow the Torah, they follow the Talmud and practice Kabbalah.
Besides all that, God’s chosen people always have been and always will be the people who love God and keep his covenant.
Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
Zionist infiltrated Christianity many years ago and brought in the heresy that the Jewish people, as a race, are God’s chosen people.
I think Paul can add another to yours as well
Romans 2:9 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
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I have seen zero reports regarding specific to Israelis children.
So not familiar with what you mean “credible”
Reports.
Who do you think would first hand issue such a report regarding war causalities, for any nation?
A department within the specific government?
Just saying…the causalities numbers regarding Gaza, is from Hamas.
If you are confidant in that source….that’s you.
What do you think Trump should do about that?
Now Eschatology is not a strong point of mine, so I would have to ask how something might be understood, for example here where it says,
Jerem 16:14 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be said, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
Jerm 16:15 But, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers.
Which children of Israel were driven into other lands that will again be brought be into the land given unto their fathers.
Because it says here
Romans 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Taken
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Yes.
Circumcision of the foreskin is what men could do…
OT… word of man and dead portion of body.
NT…word of man and dead body.
Circumcision of heart is what God will do
Glory to God,
Taken
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Jews wanting their own State / Nation…
Means they want a religious satanic State/ Nation…(if they are calling themselves or being called Zionists?)
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