Do you believe in biological evolution?

[Rockerduck]

No it did not.

Then explain it, because no evolutionist can.

 

[Chihuahua]

Christian PhD Scientists Dr James Tour & Dr Stephen Meyer are my Biblical species adaption/dna etc goto.

James Tour - Wikipedia

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Stephen C. Meyer

A former geophysicist and college professor, Stephen C. Meyer now directs Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Culture in Seattle.

stephencmeyer.org

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I respect the institutions from which they graduated, however, that does not mean it has any relationship with evolution nor peer reviewed scientific papers published on their area of learning.

 

[Chihuahua]

Then explain it, because no evolutionist can.

You made the claim. That means it is on you to prove it, not for me to disprove it. That is why non-kangaroo courts need to prove a conviction.

 

[Chihuahua]

I respect the institutions from which they graduated, however, that does not mean it has any relationship with evolution nor peer reviewed scientific papers published on their area of learning.

One flew over the nest: University of Cambridge. A former geophysicist
Now at:
"We are the institutional hub for scientists, educators, and inquiring minds who think that nature supplies compelling evidence of intelligent design. "

I think science proves God is omnipotent.

 

[Chihuahua]

Stephen C. Meyer received his Ph.D. in the philosophy of science from the University of Cambridge. University of Cambridge. A former geophysicist and college professor, he now directs Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Culture in Seattle.

Wow, totally irrelevant.

 

[rvmb]

I respect the institutions from which they graduated, however, that does not mean it has any relationship with evolution nor peer reviewed scientific papers published on their area of learning.

The 'experts' can't agree so at best everyone appears to be 'guessing' based on what they think is valid evidence.
The Gospel difference though is simple to understand.
"doctrine org mystery" gives a comprehensive breakdown,
Gal 2:7-9 in ALL Bibles KJV & before is the condensed version
Paul etc - Gospel OF UNcirc to the heathen/gentiles
Peter etc - Gospel OF circ to the circ

 

[rvmb]

Stephen C. Meyer received his Ph.D. in the philosophy of science from the University of Cambridge. University of Cambridge. A former geophysicist and college professor, he now directs Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Culture in Seattle.

Wow, totally irrelevant.

your credentials V his are ?

 

[rvmb]

One flew over the nest: University of Cambridge. A former geophysicist
Now at:
"We are the institutional hub for scientists, educators, and inquiring minds who think that nature supplies compelling evidence of intelligent design. "

I think science proves God is omnipotent.

Very critical, your credentials V his are ?

 

[Rockerduck]

You made the claim. That means it is on you to prove it, not for me to disprove it. That is why non-kangaroo courts need to prove a conviction.

I completely satisfied that this issue was put to rest in the 1800's. It was called " Darwin's dilemma'.

 

[Chihuahua]

I completely satisfied that this issue was put to rest in the 1800's. It was called " Darwin's dilemma'.

Not at all... Darwin postulated that evolution was a slow and gradual process. That is true in the absence regional or global extinction events. These events cause evolution or speciation to quickly fill the extinct niches in the environment. To put it simply, if nearly all fast food was beef centered, and all cows died from an event, then chicken sandwiches would fill the gap. Without said event, chicken sandwiches might have slowly been more popular. Chicken sandwiches would change from the standard to fill in the wanted gap within the market.

 

[Chihuahua]

Very critical, your credentials V his are ?

My credentials V? Oh, you are from Australia, I suppose you mean verses?

 

[Rockerduck]

Not at all... Darwin postulated that evolution was a slow and gradual process. That is true in the absence regional or global extinction events. These events cause evolution or speciation to quickly fill the extinct niches in the environment. To put it simply, if nearly all fast food was beef centered, and all cows died from an event, then chicken sandwiches would fill the gap. Without said event, chicken sandwiches might have slowly been more popular. Chicken sandwiches would change from the standard to fill in the wanted gap within the market.

I'll just agree to disagree with you. Peace and Love.

 

[Chihuahua]

My credentials V? Oh, you are from Australia, I suppose you mean verses?

I worked in research at four universities focusing on cancer research in molecular biology and what is known as Anatomical Pathology. I know what real research papers look like, because I wrote them. I know when someone speaks outside of their field. I focus on Clinical Pathology. The first time, years ago, I had "...Scientist" on my badge I scrapped that word off. I like when folks put their credentials in their email signature. I put my first name.

I only answered because you asked.

 

[Grailhunter]

The notion that God need to guide his own creation seems odd to me. That means it was imperfect.
The OT are true stories of meaning.

He guided the Old and New Testament that does not mean it was imperfect.

 

[Chihuahua]

I'll just agree to disagree with you. Peace and Love.

I do not agree.

 

[Chihuahua]

He guided the Old and New Testament that does not mean it was imperfect.

He inspired. That is quite different from creating species and limiting them to their species. A donkey and a horse can have a mule. That is because they are so genetically similar, but too far from each other to remain viable in a hybrid.

 

[Grailhunter]

He inspired. That is quite different from creating species and limiting them to their species. A donkey and a horse can have a mule. That is because they are so genetically similar, but too far from each other to remain viable in a hybrid.

So who made it so that mules cannot reproduce?
I am not trying to get into a debate on evolution or creation.....it has already been discussed. I am just saying what I believe. Believe what you want.

 

[Davy]

Do you believe in biological evolution? That Mankind is actually a species of ape? That all species come from fundamental forms that have evolved? (bacteria->fish->mammal...) That God directed somehow evolution?
If you believe in evolution, how do you concile this scientific theory with the biblical story of creation?

Or do you believe in the genesis creation? That God has created all the universe immediately?
If you believe in creation, what do you think of the scientific discoveries?

Are you asking this 'seriously', like you want to know what other believers believe about that? Or are you just throwing out a troll question? I don't want to waste my time explaining if you're not serious about your question.

 

[Davy]

Do you believe in biological evolution? That Mankind is actually a species of ape? That all species come from fundamental forms that have evolved? (bacteria->fish->mammal...) That God directed somehow evolution?
If you believe in evolution, how do you concile this scientific theory with the biblical story of creation?

Or do you believe in the genesis creation? That God has created all the universe immediately?
If you believe in creation, what do you think of the scientific discoveries?

OK, I'm going to assume you're serious asking that. Firstly, I believe in an Old Creation, which still is not the theory of evolution.

1. the historical Church tradition of God's creation in Genesis 1, FROM ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS, is not correct.

The KJV Genesis 1:2 phrase "without form, and void" is wrongly interpreted to mean the earth had not yet been created, and there was a 'nothingness' present, like ether space. In the actual Hebrew that phrase is 'tohu va bohu' which means the earth had become 'a waste and an indistinguishable ruin'. It means the earth had already been created sometime before Genesis 1:2, and something had happened to cause the earth to be covered in all those "waters" mentioned in verse 2.

Apostle Peter in 2 Peter 3 mentions that state of ruin the earth had become, which he said perished by a flood, and that some were 'willingly ignorant' of that ancient flood upon the earth. He was not speaking of the flood of Noah's day, because the Jews were not ignorant of Noah's flood, for Moses clearly wrote of it. Peter was pointing to Genesis 1 with the earth already there, standing out of the waters, and in the waters. Peter said the earth was anciently framed by The Word of God. God spoke, and His creation came into existence at Genesis 1:1, in the "beginning".

Thus an unknown amount of time existed between God's original creation in the beginning at Genesis 1:1 verse and the Genesis 1:2 verse of the earth destroyed by a flood, and laying a waste.

2. Further Bible study, like in Jeremiah 4, shows that phrase "without form, and void" again, but used to reveal a previous event of destruction that God had done upon the earth. And God said He would not make a full end, but for that reason the earth would mourn, and the heavens (sky) above would be black, suggesting the violent type weather of this present world time.

3. In Romans 8:18-25, Apostle Paul further explains that God put His creation in 'bondage of corruption', in 'vanity'. And that the creation seeks a release from that bondage at the manifesting of the sons of God. That reveals beyond all doubt that this present 2nd world earth age is NOT God's 'original' creation. Today instead is an 'imperfect' creation in "bondage of corruption". And by that it points to God's original creation in the "beginning" having been a PERFECT CREATION. But something happened that made God end His perfect creation...

4. In Ezekiel 28, God reveals the "king of Tyrus" as a TYPE for Lucifer in that old world PRIOR to Lucifer's rebellion. God said He created him perfect in his ways, until iniquity was found in him. Lucifer was created as a covering cherub for guarding God's Throne in Heaven. Lucifer coveted God's Throne, and thus fell. That is when God brought an end to His original 'perfect creation' in the beginning, but not a full end, but instead brought this 2nd world earth age we are in today that began at Genesis 1:2.

That is how and why God's Word does... align with the ancient fossil record, while having absolutely nothing to do with man's theory of the evolution of species.


5. Per the end of Hebrews 12, Paul says to remember Him Who once before shook the earth, and says 'once again, He will shake not only the earth, but the heavens also'. Aircraft pilots have to correct their compass heading flying over long distances because true magnetic north is about 90 miles off from true geographical north. It suggests this ancient earth is tilted off its axis.

6. The fossil record reveals tropical animal and plant life located at both the earth's North and South poles, and in the deserts. Pseudo-science tries to explain this away with their earth crust shift theories. But it cannot account for the wooly mammoths discovered frozen in ice in the Arctic regions still with undecayed vegetation in their mouths and stomachs, showing they were grazing in a green field in the Arctic areas.

 

[Nancy]

We are apes. There are transition into new species. It is called speciation. That is why a horse and donkey can produce an offspring but it cannot reproduce. They were once a single species. There are others as well. You can see a drift in genetic code that produces that same protein.

Why do we still have apes? Were apes made in the image of God?