Revelation 20: 5&6

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A man or woman who follows Christ
is a man or woman that will Not compromise .
They will not put govt , man , anything before GOD all MIGHTY and the LAMB .
And beleive you me david , THAT MAKES THEM ENEMY NUMBER ONE of the WORLD ORDER .
they cannot be bought with rubies and gold
with promises of an easy and better life
Nor will they fear a thing or a t hreat that man can do to them .
TO LIVE IS CHRIST , TO DIE IS GAIN . and the govts of the world KNOW THIS .
What i type next , might sound like bold words and even madness to this g eneration .
BUT i had rather be put in prison and even killed , LONG BEFORE i compromise a millimeter in the direction of man
and away from GOD .
And i aint stupied or foolish , I ALREADY KNOW its ONLY GOD , CHRIST i can trust in TO GIVE ME
the strength i need to be faithful to the end . NO COMPROMISE , and may i be long dead before i do .
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The true and spiritual mount ZION of GOD is above in heaven , as is the T RUE JERUSALEM ,
THERE IS That which is earthen and is still in b ondage with her children
THERE is that which is above and within all who do beleive IN CHRIST JESUS .
And the temple of THIS great ZION of GOD , this HEAVENLY JERUSALEM
IS G OD and THE LAMB .
Many are caught up with the earthen
T ime to SEEK HE who is above and Sitteth on THE THRONE where the SON maketh intercession for all who do Beleive .
Intefaith will lead this people to the lie and as one will they all do the will of its father , WHICH IS NOT IN HEAVEN
We had better watch out . Be encouraged my friend . Let us read daily the scriptures , let us be in prayer
and be learning .
Thank you for the reply ADE :)
 
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lol

You are lacking.........
Don't be proud and be sure of your 'self' unwisely, for GOD have divided HIS gifts to HIS unworthy servants.

So, for the record, GOD did not give you all the answer and let you have an upper hand over us.

We also quoted scripture and explaining from it to the nearest possibility prophesied events to take place.

They are to us the signs of time mentioned by the Lord, for us to stay awake and lookout for.

Now, by the same signs and times of the Lord, when do you know that anti-Christ is already in the world stage?

Thank you
 

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Don't be proud and be sure of your 'self' unwisely, for GOD have divided HIS gifts to HIS unworthy servants.

So, for the record, GOD did not give you all the answer and let you have an upper hand over us.

We also quoted scripture and explaining from it to the nearest possibility prophesied events to take place.

They are to us the signs of time mentioned by the Lord, for us to stay awake and lookout for.

Now, by the same signs and times of the Lord, when do you know that anti-Christ is already in the world stage?

Thank you
How is understanding of the Holy Scriptures attained?
 

Fred J

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The true and spiritual mount ZION of GOD is above in heaven , as is the T RUE JERUSALEM ,
Will make it short and simple for you kids who making a lot of noise over this simple matter.

Galatians 4:
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Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants;
 

Fred J

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Thank you for the reply ADE :)
My friend, you who are not learned in the scripture, will be like those here, like a 'weed' blown by the wind here and there.
 

Fred J

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You go first, not by your words but by the scripture and quote how true believers attained it, 'as it is written' or 'for it is written'

Thank you
Well 'David in NJ', we're waiting for your answer?
 

David in NJ

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You go first, not by your words but by the scripture and quote how true believers attained it, 'as it is written' or 'for it is written'

Thank you
Thank you as well.
Let us continue with respect towards each other and His Commandment = John 13:34

“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another."

You go first, not by your words but by the scripture
John 3:27

Then there arose a dispute between some of John’s disciples and the Jews about purification. 26And they came to John and said to him, “Rabbi, He who was with you beyond the Jordan, to whom you have testified—behold, He is baptizing, and all are coming to Him!”

27John answered and said, “A man can receive nothing unless it has been given to him from heaven.
 

Fred J

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Where did I claim I understand ZION ?
But you did agree to amigo's claim, that the spiritual Mt Zion is in Heaven.

How about agreeing on the contrary, that the spiritual Mt Zion of Heaven is here on earth and in us the 'body of Christ/church, as apparently for the Kingdom of GOD is 'at hand'.

And for every true born again who've attained it here on earth, whereby spiritually they worship the ABBA/FATHER in spirit and truth.

This what Jesus promised the Samaritan women, who in time passed they worship at Mt Sinai and the Jews in the Temple.
 

David in NJ

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Will make it short and simple for you kids who making a lot of noise over this simple matter.

Galatians 4:
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Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants;
How many Jerusalems given in the allegory?
 

Fred J

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Thank you as well.
Let us continue with respect towards each other and His Commandment = John 13:34

“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another."


John 3:27

Then there arose a dispute between some of John’s disciples and the Jews about purification. 26And they came to John and said to him, “Rabbi, He who was with you beyond the Jordan, to whom you have testified—behold, He is baptizing, and all are coming to Him!”

27John answered and said, “A man can receive nothing unless it has been given to him from heaven.
Therefore, you received everything from Heaven and nothing from the All Scripture=Holy Bible and so?
 

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But you did agree to amigo's claim, that the spiritual Mt Zion is in Heaven.

How about agreeing on the contrary, that the spiritual Mt Zion of Heaven is here on earth and in us the 'body of Christ/church, as apparently for the Kingdom of GOD is 'at hand'.

And for every true born again who've attained it here on earth, whereby spiritually they worship the ABBA/FATHER in spirit and truth.

This what Jesus promised the Samaritan women, who in time passed they worship at Mt Sinai and the Jews in the Temple.
Thanking for a response is different to agreeing with the contents.
I don't understand ZION so asked him for his views then thanked him :)
 

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Therefore, you received everything from Heaven and nothing from the All Scripture=Holy Bible and so?
We must also refrain from assuming and accusing especially when there is no evidence of such to assume.

You asked for scripture and i joyfully provided one scripture passage that reflects the Source of Scripture.
 

Fred J

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How many Jerusalems given in the allegory?
It's not to how many Jerusalem given in allegory, but rather to the Holy sites here on earth spoken of as of Heavenly, which things are an allegory.
 

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Thanking for a response is different to agreeing with the contents.
I don't understand ZION so asked him for his views then thanked him :)
If you are willing, stay with this conversation and i will joyfully show you from God's word the simple Truth that anyone who has an open heart and mind can receive.

i asked @Fred J and now for your benefit as well = How many Jerusalems are spoken of in the allegory in Galatians ch4 ?
 

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It's not to how many Jerusalem given in allegory, but rather to the Holy sites here on earth spoken of as of Heavenly, which things are an allegory.
@rvmb

The correct answer is two Jerusalems are spoken.

The error is assuming that the two Jerusalems are the allegory, when in fact they are not.

The allegorical objects are Hagar and Sarah.

Hagar is allegorically directed to the Jerusalem on earth with the Jewish people who are in bondage to sin and spiritual death/darkness.

Sarah is allegorically directed to Jerusalem Above where God and the holy angels and the spirits of the departed saints are.
 
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Thanking for a response is different to agreeing with the contents.
I don't understand ZION so asked him for his views then thanked him :)
The physical Mt Zion in Jerusalem on earth was once the Holy City of GOD, where the Temple was and HIS Holy presence was in the Most Holy Place in the Temple.

It's long gone and non existence, for GOD's presence have moved on to the 'body of Christ', as now the spiritual Heavenly Mt Zion here on earth.
 

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The physical Mt Zion in Jerusalem on earth was once the Holy City of GOD, where the Temple was and HIS Holy presence was in the Most Holy Place in the Temple.

It's long gone and non existence, for GOD's presence have moved on to the 'body of Christ', as now the spiritual Heavenly Mt Zion here on earth.
Zion is a subject that I am weak on.
But In case its relevant, I don't believe in REPLACEMENT THEOLGY.

I accept and believe that the 'body of Christ' as taught by only Paul are the Gal 3:28, 1 Cor 12:13, Col 3:11 believers today.
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