Do you believe in biological evolution?

[soberxp]

The biblical city of Jericho goes back 11,000 years
Byblos Lebanon goes back 10,000

Back during the ice age the ocean were drawn up in the ice caps which were much larger. So the ocean levels were lower and when the ice age ended the oceans rose and swallowed up cities on the coast. One off the coast of India was found to be 140,000 years old.

These explanations still seem far-fetched.

Take the city I live in, for example. It dates back to the Tang Dynasty a thousand years ago. While most structures from that period are buried underground, some landmark buildings from the same era have survived and still stand today without being buried. The more you think about it, the more unsettling it becomes.

 

[Grailhunter]

These explanations still seem far-fetched.

Take the city I live in, for example. It dates back to the Tang Dynasty a thousand years ago. While most structures from that period are buried underground, some landmark buildings from the same era have survived and still stand today without being buried. The more you think about it, the more unsettling it becomes.

It is no secret, you can look it up yourself.

 

[soberxp]

It is no secret, you can look it up yourself.

Then what about the Egyptian pyramids? Why weren't they buried underground?

 

[Grailhunter]

Then what about the Egyptian pyramids? Why weren't they buried underground?

The slow thaw of the ice age was around 13,000 years ago around Egypt, slower up north. Now it is possible that the sphinx may have been affected by water run off of the ice age. When they first discovered it was buried up to its neck in the sand.

 

[soberxp]

The slow thaw of the ice age was around 13,000 years ago around Egypt, slower up north. Now it is possible that the sphinx may have been affected by water run off of the ice age. When they first discovered it was buried up to its neck in the sand.

Sand and being buried underground are not the same thing. Dunes are the result of wind action.

 

[Grailhunter]

Sand and being buried underground are not the same thing. Dunes are the result of wind action.

 

[Grailhunter]

Sand and being buried underground are not the same thing. Dunes are the result of wind action.

Not sure exactly what you are getting at but you are right but sand can be affected by wind and water.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Evolution is theory that has been consistently shown to be the most accurate way of explaining how things occurred. Creationism is nothing but an unproven view created by human beings. There is no evidence for it. Creationism does not prove itself, but relies on ignorance for the strawmen it creates against evolution. It never shows proof of itself.

'
I don't recall that Darwin set about a scale. His hypothesis was that evolution occurred slowly, which was shown not to be the case.

No it is far from any accuracy when it comes to explaining life.

Creationism as you call it is the dictated revelation of the only one who was there when things began.

None of the scientists saw any evolution on anywhere near the macro scale required for the theory of evolution to be true.

One genre, one order, one family cannot jump to another of the different others. Speciation is possible as this was proven true by Brother Mendel!

So you do not believe in slow steady state evolution. Are you a punctuated equilibrium believer?

 

[Chihuahua]

No it is far from any accuracy when it comes to explaining life.

It sure is that is why it is compatible with other science and understood in medicine.

Creationism as you call it is the dictated revelation of the only one who was there when things began.

No, creationism is a mythology created by men roughly based on part of revelation.

None of the scientists saw any evolution on anywhere near the macro scale required for the theory of evolution to be true.

Scientists do not really use the term macroevolution. I only see creationists using it. It is certainly known and documented in fossils and genetics.

One genre, one order, one family cannot jump to another of the different others.

Generally one doesn't go into an existing order or family. The members of those are due to a common ancestor. There is convergent evolution in which different lines produce similar traits.

Speciation is possible as this was proven true by Brother Mendel!

Yes, speciation is possible.

So you do not believe in slow steady state evolution. Are you a punctuated equilibrium believer?

I do not believe. I understand that evolution can occur in different ways given a species or event.

 

[Simple Dan]

Why do we still have apes? Were apes made in the image of God?

Those apes just haven't evolved yet, must have something to do with gravity.

 

[Chihuahua]

Those apes just haven't evolved yet, must have something to do with gravity.

I already replied: Why do we have other apes? Are you one of those people that is so uninformed about evolution that you think evolution means monkeys all changed to apes and apes would have all changed into humans? That is not how evolution works. All apes have a common ancestor and went their separate ways genetically due to location.

Other apes continue to evolve but are unlikely to adapt the same traits unique to humans.

 

[Simple Dan]

LOL
Stephen Meyers says it did.

The Cambrian explosian is a big problem for evolutionists.
It does not reflect what they believe...that animals evolved slowly.

There's a sudden appearance of animals and plants that did not exist prior to this explosion.

Stephen Meyer is one of my favorite people. I read his book Signature in the Cell many years ago, a good read and very understandable even to those with a limited scientific background.
However, while he rejects evolutionary biology in the macro, he is still completely on board with evolutionary cosmology, which to my mind seems a bit of a contradiction.

 

[Simple Dan]

Your question would make for a good pole.

As for me, no, I do not believe in biological evolution. Some limited adaptation, yes, but not evolution. Adaptation proves adaptation--not evolution.

So you reject evolutionary biology, but consider anyone who rejects evolutionary cosmology as a crackpot? Care to elaborate?

 

[Chihuahua]

Stephen Meyer is one of my favorite people. I read his book Signature in the Cell many years ago, a good read and very understandable even to those with a limited scientific background.

I would imagine, since has no degree in biology.

However, while he rejects evolutionary biology in the macro, he is still completely on board with evolutionary cosmology, which to my mind seems a bit of a contradiction.

Well, if he ever goes to school and learns about evolution and biology he might come around.

 

[Simple Dan]

The complexity and arrangement of any of these functions is evidence of an intelligence outstripping....

Irreducible Complexity, according to
PhD Biochemist Michael Behe.

The author of Darwin's Black Box, have yet to read it myself, though I have watched several related lectures.

But of course, he's probably not a serious guy, just another one of those fringe scientific whack jobs

His list of published papers were too long to post in this message.

​

 

[soberxp]

Not sure exactly what you are getting at but you are right but sand can be affected by wind and water.

It seems you still don’t understand how a city where people live every day can suddenly have the foundations of its buildings buried underground one day. Isn’t this similar to the theory of evolution in a way?

Alright, it appears you haven’t carefully considered the nature of things in this world.

@St. SteVen How do you think about it? Pls read it from #191

 

[Grailhunter]

It seems you still don’t understand how a city where people live every day can suddenly have the foundations of its buildings buried underground one day. Isn’t this similar to the theory of evolution in a way?

Alright, it appears you haven’t carefully considered the nature of things in this world.

@St. SteVen How do you think about it? Pls read it from #191

Jerusalem is one of those cities. But cities are not living things.

 

[soberxp]

Jerusalem is one of those cities. But cities are not living things.

But it was also slowly and suddenly buried underground, just like what the theory of evolution describes - slowly and suddenly one day. However, the actual situation was not like that.

 

[Grailhunter]

But it was also slowly and suddenly buried underground, just like what the theory of evolution describes - slowly and suddenly one day. However, the actual situation was not like that.

Kind of like fine wine or mulled wine.....what is the difference?
If you have a point please make it.

 

[soberxp]

Kind of like fine wine or mulled wine.....what is the difference?
If you have a point please make it.

I have already pointed out that most of the building areas are buried underground, but there are also very few that have never been buried underground.
This is similar to the findings of the theory of evolution. There are still very few species that have survived to this day without evolving.