Anti-ICE protesters storm church in St Paul, Minnesota... disrupt worship service

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Jesus is irrelevant?
When the question is not about Jesus but such practical things as how society should be organized, like expelling illegal immigrants, irrelevant he is. On point, people are asking Yes or No.

AFTER we answer the actual question, yes or no, we should talk about Jesus to our hearts content. Otherwise, you've made yourself irrelevant.
 

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That was under the old covenant.........which was full of types/shadows of the new covenant....serving in the new way of the SPIRIT now. Our battles are spiritual battles now....we wrestle not with flesh and blood but with powers/principalities.....and our weapons are not carnal but mighty in God to the pulling down of strongholds.
Those too.
 

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If that's the case, God would have to apologize about Sodom and Gomorrah and not destroying the USA.
Considering the USA is the world's headquarters for exporting pornography.
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Maybe He is already working on it as we watch every night the weird weather reports from all over the country.
How stupid to claim all of the USA is Sodom and Gomorrah !
It's the Socialist intent to drag all Nations down to that ends in fact !

Their are right wing Socialist as well who play too the same tune, for they love to stand over people ! and the left wing people are to stupid to understand that Socialism is Slavery to a god that they truly are Idolising in fact !

It all comes about because they themselves are clearly Lost, be it Left Wing or Right Wing Socialist dupes and such is clearly due to their lack of Grace !
 
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I think it's a sad day for Christianity if churches are now being associated with this fight. OUR weapons are not carnal. There is only one answer for the wrongs and strifes of this world and I hope some of us remember what that is. Jesus never used force.....He said to overcome evil with good, and to love our enemies..

"He will keep him in perfect PEACE, whose mind is STAYED ON HIM."

You might not have watched the video of the mob storming inside of the church.

The Christians were inside peacefully worshipping. The mob came in threatening and shouting. Little children were terrified!

The pastor and the congregation continued to be in peace while the mob acted like lunatics and bullies. The pastor asked them to leave which they didn't do.


Following video has footage of the loud mouthed bearded protester who especially condemned the congregation as not being Christians because they aren't protesting.

He is a paid protester and lives in Washington DC. He was part of a mob that invaded a DC church and burst a person's eardrum. He has a fundraising page and has raised over $41,000 so he can go to all of these different protests.


This is especially informative about the loud mouthed bearded protester...
 

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You might not have watched the video of the mob storming inside of the church.

The Christians were inside peacefully worshipping. The mob came in threatening and shouting. Little children were terrified!

The pastor and the congregation continued to be in peace while the mob acted like lunatics and bullies. The pastor asked them to leave which they didn't do.


Following video has footage of the loud mouthed bearded protester who especially condemned the congregation as not being Christians because they aren't protesting.

He is a paid protester and lives in Washington DC. He was part of a mob that invaded a DC church and burst a person's eardrum. He has a fundraising page and has raised over $41,000 so he can go to all of these different protests.


This is especially informative about the loud mouthed bearded protester...
Christians since about the 4th century have mitigated political strife. Sadly,we've also contributed to it as well.

Unfortunately, there are groups that think we are to be completely passive,even in the face of immanent death.

In my view,neither Jesus nor God support that idea. So,it is up to the individual I think to decide for themselves.
 

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The Christians were inside peacefully worshipping.
How appropriate was the message that was being preached on the day of disruption !



John 13:34 Context​

31Therefore, when he was gone out, Jesus said, Now is the Son of man glorified, and God is glorified in him. 32If God be glorified in him, God shall also glorify him in himself, and shall straightway glorify him. 33Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come; so now I say to you. 34A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 35By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. 36Simon Peter said unto him, Lord, whither goest thou? Jesus answered him, Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me afterwards. 37Peter said unto him, Lord, why cannot I follow thee now? I will lay down my life for thy sake.
 

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Is Don Lemon next ?

Before Don Lemon is a very long list who should get arrested for doing worse:
  1. Obama
  2. Bill & Hillary Clinton
  3. James Comey
  4. James Clapper
  5. John Brennan
  6. Lois Lerner
  7. Lisa Page & Peter Strzok
  8. Seditious 6: Elissa Slotkin (Mich.) and
  9. Mark Kelly (Ariz.),
  10. as well as Democratic Reps. Chris Deluzio (Pa.),
  11. Maggie Goodlander (N.H.),
  12. Chrissy Houlahan (Pa.) and
  13. Jason Crow (Colo.)
  14. Jake Tapper (complicit in Biden mental decline cover up)
 
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Before Don Lemon is a very long list who should get arrested for doing worse:
  1. Obama
  2. Bill & Hillary Clinton
  3. James Comey
  4. James Clapper
  5. John Brennan
  6. Lois Lerner
  7. Lisa Page & Peter Strzok
  8. Seditious 6: Elissa Slotkin (Mich.) and
  9. Mark Kelly (Ariz.),
  10. as well as Democratic Reps. Chris Deluzio (Pa.),
  11. Maggie Goodlander (N.H.),
  12. Chrissy Houlahan (Pa.) and
  13. Jason Crow (Colo.)
  14. Jake Tapper (complicit in Biden mental decline cover up)
Good list .
15 Dr. Fauci
16 . The Auto-Pen culprits , which could already be in your list above .
 
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ICE detains 5-year-old during Minnesota operation
Do you think having children ought to allow someone to commit crimes with impunity? What should be done with 5 yo's when their parents are arrested for crimes? Should ICE abandon them? If ICE abandoned the children, would you sing the praises of ICE?
 

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School official said that ICE had recently detained a total of four students in her school district, including a 10-year-old, and two 17-year-olds.

(They must be dangerous criminals!?)
 

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Is Don Lemon next ?

Don Lemon wasn't mentally right when with CNN. He's only getting worse.

Who supports storming a church in order to send a message that law enforcement must be stopped?

Oh,that's right, those who break the law by storming a church so to prove law enforcement must be opposed!
 

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ICE detains 5-year-old during Minnesota operationView attachment 78374


Our local news reported on this.

ICE had just arrested the father....and the mother refused to take the child into her custody!!! So ICE couldn't leave the child in the cold and snow.

There was a case here in Los Angeles where the leftists tried to make a big deal out of a child being deported with his father. The child had to go with his father as that was his only parent. They moved to a small town in Mexico or Central America and are well. (A follow up story was done.)
 

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More on the loud mouthed bearded guy. He changed the title of his fundraising page now... probably due to his lawyer's advice after his arrest.

Also from Facebook:

Reports are that William Kelly, who claimed to be a Veteran, was discharged under a Bad Conduct Discharge due to Larceny & potentially has misrepresented his service.


 

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How appropriate was the message that was being preached on the day of disruption !



John 13:34 Context​

31Therefore, when he was gone out, Jesus said, Now is the Son of man glorified, and God is glorified in him. 32If God be glorified in him, God shall also glorify him in himself, and shall straightway glorify him. 33Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come; so now I say to you. 34A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 35By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. 36Simon Peter said unto him, Lord, whither goest thou? Jesus answered him, Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me afterwards. 37Peter said unto him, Lord, why cannot I follow thee now? I will lay down my life for thy sake.
That was incredible. Thankyou for sharing.
There really are no coincidences.
I never noticed devils walking on the earth so much so as when Jesus was walking on it. It seems like wherever the light is the darkness gets drawn to it like a butterfly.
And what I understand from that sermon is, the only thing that will fix it is Love.
And at that moment, darkness came crashing in and they were tested.
They didn't need to fight. They light just drove them crazy.
And now that light is on every news station around the clock. Drawing in the darkness so we can fix it.

I was watching C-span a little while ago and they were having the signing ceremony for the Board of Peace.
The rebuilding of Gaza, the nations that are coming together to bring light to a place that has been in darkness for a long time.
But it won't end there. This is just the beginning because This is Iowa. :D
I am excited about the future and yet I know we still have a lot to go through before we see it.
But it's coming.
We are here to be witnesses and to watch God move on the earth. To some it won't be so nice, to others it will be a whole new day.
So I'll leave this here. It's about 40 minutes. But the vision for the future is hopeful. Specially for Gazan People.
They been through a lot for generations. They been living under threat and terror and war. Surrounded by people that everyone knew didn't want them. Think about that. When war came no one would take them in.
I know there were bad people controlling that country. And maybe in their mind, that terror or power would keep them safe.
But like most boomerangs, what you sow is what you reap. Well, they have no more seeds to sow with and the land is so weak and tired.
I am praying that this new group of hearts and minds can show the world what Love really is.
Hugs

 
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