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Randy Kluth

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Inclusive or Patriotic? Trump seems bewildered that even though his economy is doing well the numbers still indicate people don't like him. But I think it's pretty simple, really. The Republican program Trump supports is more patriotic than inclusive. Why do Democrats, the schools, the media, the entertainment all support a more "inclusive" model of politic? It's because the more "inclusive" model attracts more people, more political support, more customers, more money, more listeners, etc.

The more "patriotic" model has standards and may appear to look judgmental and racist. It may look bigoted. This is clearly going to look "hateful" to many people--particularly to people who don't *want* to have moral standards, or who want to live in lawless, less-confined ways. Democrats define their version of "democracy" as "inclusive," and wish to stitch together a wide assortment of disaffected people, or minorities. They wish to invite in illegal immigrants to stack up their census numbers of sanctuary states so that more congressman are permitted, growing the numbers of Democratic congressman, forming majorities in Congress.

Entertainers want support from a larger number of people, drawing from liberals who appeal to all, politically, religiously, and morally. That way they sell their product to more, and not less, people. The same with company executives who want to sell their wares to more, and not less, customers. Sports heroes, actors, musicians all want to sell to the highest number of people, without excluding the lowest common denominators. "Patriots" are going to lose out to a non-discriminating mass of people. Public schools are going to be oriented to the more "democratic" model because they are designed to apply to all. Higher Education wants to attract all, from any country or group, and not just those who support our Constitution.

So even if our economy is doing well, the campaign to take down Trump and his "patriotism" is going to have "teeth." No matter if his policies are healthiest for America, and in support of a true constitutional form of Democracy, he is going to be questioned by the media and branded "uncompassionate" and "bigoted." Putting America first seems more intuitive, but does not take hold where there are media blitzes that taint the political message. Perhaps 80% of America rejects the lawless inclusion of illegal hordes coming into America and doing damage to our society and schools. But looking these "illegals" in the eye draws upon compassionate hearts, and crime is ignored in favor of "inclusion."

Without standards, however, all the wealth we gain from selling to "all" will be "cheap money earned," and the money will be spent in a worthless, self-destructive way. It will be like sand spilling out between our fingers. I'm for a fewer, more quality-oriented politic. I'm for the obviously-needed "lawful behavior." I hope you feel the same?
 

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Inclusive or Patriotic? Trump seems bewildered that even though his economy is doing well the numbers still indicate people don't like him.
American exceptionalism is NOT inclusive. Those who are not good, don't merit patronage aren't going to like it.

They can call it bigoted all they want. A merit based society IS bigoted against those who are not productive members of society. We want limited charity cases of people who don't pull their own weight. Using words like 'bigot' is just an Appeal to Emotion. This unequal distribution of capital is what freedom is all about.
 

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Mean while in Minnesota:
Videos verified by Reuters show officers drawing guns on drivers, smashing windows, pepper-spraying passengers.

One ICE officer reportedly followed a woman back to her home after running her plates, “to freak her out.”

Another was caught on video telling a man, “You raise your voice, I erase your voice.”
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A copy of 1930s Germany.
 

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American exceptionalism is NOT inclusive. Those who are not good, don't merit patronage aren't going to like it.

They can call it bigoted all they want. A merit based society IS bigoted against those who are not productive members of society. We want limited charity cases of people who don't pull their own weight. Using words like 'bigot' is just an Appeal to Emotion. This unequal distribution of capital is what freedom is all about.
Thank you. I wouldn't put it in such "uncompassionate" terms, but I understand. ;)
 

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Some more Trump related news:

Somewhere in Ohio, lying flat on its back like a fallen idol from a forgotten empire, is a 15-foot, gold-leaf statue of Donald Trump.

Commissioned by crypto bros.
Funded by a meme coin.
Suppose to immortalize Trump, fist raised, as a martyr of destiny.

Instead, it’s unfinished, unpaid for, and stranded in a sculpture studio because the investors didn’t pay the artist, the coin collapsed by more than 95 percent, and the backers allegedly used images of the statue to hype their cryptocurrency without the artist’s permission.
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More news: Trump wants to name an airport after him: "Trump International Airport."
It slipped my mind where I saw this in the news. (When I find it I will post the location.)

But this is probably all fake news according to his Christian supporters on this forum.
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Thank you. I wouldn't put it in such "uncompassionate" terms, but I understand. ;)
That’s because our feminized society is too emotionally driven, hyper grace focused, giving too little dispassionate consideration for JUSTICE.

In emotional terms, our society has succumbed to emotional manipulation, indoctrinated NOT TO BE COMPASSIONATE to the other side, the side that yearns for justice. God blesses those who hunger and thirst for justice, for they will be satisfied.
 

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American exceptionalism is NOT inclusive. Those who are not good, don't merit patronage aren't going to like it.

They can call it bigoted all they want. A merit based society IS bigoted against those who are not productive members of society. We want limited charity cases of people who don't pull their own weight. Using words like 'bigot' is just an Appeal to Emotion. This unequal distribution of capital is what freedom is all about.
True. Opponents of American culture don't realize,if they claim to be of our faith, that Jesus emphasized that merit-based fruitfulness, actions and stewardship,determine the degree of rewards in heaven.
 

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5.9% growth is labeled as failing economy by the Leftist Loons. What was it under Biden at 1.9%? Oh, the accolades for the auto-pen-in-chief were non-stop. They even told us the economy is doing better than our own eyes tell us!
Mainstream Media in Disbelief as Trump DOUBLES Expected Jobs Numbers - President Trump Takes Victory Lap After Adding 130,000 Jobs to US Economy | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft Mainstream Media in Disbelief as Trump DOUBLES Expected Jobs Numbers - President Trump Takes Victory Lap After Adding 130,000 Jobs to US Economy | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft
 

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Well I guess it depends where your news it coming from:
As of November 2025, the U.S. has experienced approximately 1.17 million job cuts, marking a significant increase from the previous year. This figure represents a 54% increase from the same period in 2024, indicating a challenging employment landscape driven by various economic pressures and technological changes.
 
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