Trump and Politics

[Triumph1300]

Trump publicly acting as if the war is winding down.......Looks more like it's all back to square one.
Lies does not stop wars .

 

[Dan Clarkston]

To All the Haters out there, You can go to Hell.

Well, we know Real Christians being led by the True Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ do not tell people to "go to hell"

Just an FYI, Christians are supposed to be trying to win people the Lord not tell them to "go to hell"

You're being led by spirits of darkness there bud. You might want to REPENT of that at your earliest convenience.

 

[Triumph1300]

To All the Haters out there, You can go to Hell

Wow

 

[Triumph1300]

Trump and Politics:

"Tariffs"
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Whether the target is Iran, Europe, or Canada, every relationship gets recast as a protection racket run by men who confuse intimidation with strength.

Then they act shocked when the rest of the world starts looking for the exits.
During a recent CBC broadcast, the whole discussion makes clear that any Canadian effort to hedge toward China is treated not as the predictable response of an ally being bullied, but as a “thumb in the eye” to the Trump administration.

It is the schoolyard bully who steals your lunch and then gets offended that you stop sitting with him.
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Europe, for its part, seems to be getting the message too.

It will take a long time for the relations with world to recover after this administration is gone.
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Tourism is down big time in the US.
Many people are travelling elsewhere.
I hear many soccer fans are changing plans.

 

[Wrangler]

Nobody said it did. I specifically said if civil government tells us to not abide by God's Word then Christians are to not obey

You'll notice in the Book of Acts when the Apostles were told to not use the Name of Jesus they kept using it.

Exactly! As far as I know, Jesus saying give to Caesar what is Caesar's and Give to God what is God's is the first expression in history asserting limits to government. Those who've strayed from the narrow path due to TDS or over-spiritualization suppose nothing besides taxes belongs to Caesar! Romans 13 reveals their folly

13 Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God. 2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished. 3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you. 4 The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God’s servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong. 5 So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience.​

God has instituted those in authority sent for our good. I've said they are the principle agents of justice on Earth as we are commanded to DO JUSTICE, Micah 6:8. It's inconceivable that God's chosen people would abstain from voting if that was the form of government in the book of Ester when it was determined to kill all the Jews. It's inconceivable that God's chosen people would abstain from voting based on some theological principle that it is not up to us to decide such matters!​

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In Western democracies there are civic responsibilities of citizens BECAUSE these God ordained, good governments not only have the consent of the governed but are themselves constituted through citizen government. Doing is wrong is not providing guidance to such government when needed, such as voting. What direction should we as a society go regarding the issues of the day? What should our public policies be? As God himself said, our government says to us: Come now, and let us reason together Isaiah 1:18​

 

[Ziggy]

Well, we know Real Christians being led by the True Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ do not tell people to "go to hell"

Just an FYI, Christians are supposed to be trying to win people the Lord not tell them to "go to hell"

You're being led by spirits of darkness there bud. You might want to REPENT of that at your earliest convenience.

GO TO HELL

 

[Ziggy]

Well, we know Real Christians being led by the True Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ do not tell people to "go to hell"

Just an FYI, Christians are supposed to be trying to win people the Lord not tell them to "go to hell"

You're being led by spirits of darkness there bud. You might want to REPENT of that at your earliest convenience.

 

[Ziggy]

Well, we know Real Christians being led by the True Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ do not tell people to "go to hell"

Just an FYI, Christians are supposed to be trying to win people the Lord not tell them to "go to hell"

You're being led by spirits of darkness there bud. You might want to REPENT of that at your earliest convenience.

I am Sorry,
You are right.
It was a difficult day today. And I took it out on everybody.
Sometimes those arrows are sharp and I forget to have my armor on.
I don't believe I'm being led by spirits of darkness, it's more like Indignation.
The absolute vitriol that is being spread through not only this forum but the world in general, sometimes gets to me.
It is difficult to stay positive in a negative world.

Thank you for your wise words.
Hugs

 

[Wrangler]

I am Sorry,
You are right.

A rare public mea culpa. Refreshing humility.

It was a difficult day today. And I took it out on everybody.
Sometimes those arrows are sharp and I forget to have my armor on.
I don't believe I'm being led by spirits of darkness, it's more like Indignation.
The absolute vitriol that is being spread through not only this forum but the world in general, sometimes gets to me.

Agreed. The need to unplug, connect to nature and remember to take all thoughts captive in obedience to Christ. Easy to say . Not always easy to do.

It is difficult to stay positive in a negative world.

Yes. We are the light and the salt. I’m reminded of a saying on my local Christian radio station. The world is full of kind people. If you can’t find one, be one.

 

[Scott Downey]

Trump publicly acting as if the war is winding down.......Looks more like it's all back to square one.
Lies does not stop wars .

Wars stop when one side yields in defeat, or is destroyed, or if both sides agree to stop fighting as too much destruction happens.
Unless one side is utterly defeated it is just temporary and the war starts again.
Lots of reasons why wars start and stop and start again. WW2 came soon 20 years after WW1 and due to grievances resulting from WW1, which actually kept on the economic pressures after WW1 ends.

Lies don't stop wars, wars stops wars. Then they start again

 

[Wrangler]

Trump publicly acting as if the war is winding down

And this offends you, somehow?

All the large scale military targets have been taken out. Running out of targets. Not sure how does one include the war is winding down. What is your criteria for determining a war is winding down?

 

[Triumph1300]

In all fairness, Donald J. Trump is creating a useful and lasting legacy after all. Something that will be invaluable for future generations.

He is demonstrating daily what not to do.

He is making his mark in history that generations will remember.
That's undeniable.

As painful as it is for us to endure, Trump is showing future generations what happens when you are not a global leader.

When you lie and deceive people and your word can not be trusted.
(This is exactly what the Iranian people are thinking after "Help Is On The Way" resulted in a bombed school, destroyed hospital, and other properties.)
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We’re seeing what happens when toxic online culture gets it’s own leader.
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Have a great day.

 

[Wrangler]

What is your criteria for determining a war is winding down?

Not surprising that you cannot answer the question.

As painful as it is for us to endure, Trump is

Every day is Christmas with Tump! What are you talking about?

 

[n2thelight]

I love Trump.

Dearest Faithful Lord…
God Bless Trump…
Bless his Heart…
Bless his Soul…
Bless his Guidance…
Bless his Service…
Bless his Decisions…
Bless his Leadership…
Bless his Health…
Bless his Family…
Bless his Generosity…
and
God Bless America…
God Bless Israel.

Thank you Lord.
Always Great Love and Blessing upon You.

Glory to God,
Taken

Makes me wonder, what god are you praying 2

 

[quietthinker]

Inclusive or Patriotic? Trump seems bewildered that even though his economy is doing well the numbers still indicate people don't like him. But I think it's pretty simple, really. The Republican program Trump supports is more patriotic than inclusive. Why do Democrats, the schools, the media, the entertainment all support a more "inclusive" model of politic? It's because the more "inclusive" model attracts more people, more political support, more customers, more money, more listeners, etc.

The more "patriotic" model has standards and may appear to look judgmental and racist. It may look bigoted. This is clearly going to look "hateful" to many people--particularly to people who don't *want* to have moral standards, or who want to live in lawless, less-confined ways. Democrats define their version of "democracy" as "inclusive," and wish to stitch together a wide assortment of disaffected people, or minorities. They wish to invite in illegal immigrants to stack up their census numbers of sanctuary states so that more congressman are permitted, growing the numbers of Democratic congressman, forming majorities in Congress.

Entertainers want support from a larger number of people, drawing from liberals who appeal to all, politically, religiously, and morally. That way they sell their product to more, and not less, people. The same with company executives who want to sell their wares to more, and not less, customers. Sports heroes, actors, musicians all want to sell to the highest number of people, without excluding the lowest common denominators. "Patriots" are going to lose out to a non-discriminating mass of people. Public schools are going to be oriented to the more "democratic" model because they are designed to apply to all. Higher Education wants to attract all, from any country or group, and not just those who support our Constitution.

So even if our economy is doing well, the campaign to take down Trump and his "patriotism" is going to have "teeth." No matter if his policies are healthiest for America, and in support of a true constitutional form of Democracy, he is going to be questioned by the media and branded "uncompassionate" and "bigoted." Putting America first seems more intuitive, but does not take hold where there are media blitzes that taint the political message. Perhaps 80% of America rejects the lawless inclusion of illegal hordes coming into America and doing damage to our society and schools. But looking these "illegals" in the eye draws upon compassionate hearts, and crime is ignored in favor of "inclusion."

Without standards, however, all the wealth we gain from selling to "all" will be "cheap money earned," and the money will be spent in a worthless, self-destructive way. It will be like sand spilling out between our fingers. I'm for a fewer, more quality-oriented politic. I'm for the obviously-needed "lawful behavior." I hope you feel the same?

Ahhhhh! Wanna know what's happening in your country?
Here's a view (for the courageous to see) that is hard to swallow for many.

 

[Wrangler]

Makes me wonder, what god are you praying 2

I'm confident @Taken and I pray to the God who anointed Trump, putting him in position of authority for such a time as this. See Romans 13:1-2

For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God. 2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished.​

 

[n2thelight]

Why aren't you telling us about all the illegals trying to destroy America?

Why you not telling us about Americans trying to destroy America ?

 

[n2thelight]

I'm confident @Taken and I pray to the God who anointed Trump, putting him in position of authority for such a time as this. See Romans 13:1-2

For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God. 2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished.​

Did He not put the Iranian president in his position as well ?

 

[Wrangler]

Did He not put the Iranian president in his position as well ?

I answered your insolent question about what God @Taken and I pray to. Sad that you follow up with another one. Is there any evidence in the Bible of God taking down people in power, like those in Canaan, Saul, Nebuchadnezzar? What does that tell you?

It tells me Ecclesiastes is right, there is a time for everything under heaven and now, as Jesus said, is the time of the Lord's favor. Do you support Trump's America First policies?

 

[Triumph1300]

Ahhhhh! Wanna know what's happening in your country?
Here's a view (for the courageous to see) that is hard to swallow for many.

Great video.....the truth.
The Trump supporters are probably to lazy to watch it.
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