The Chosen

[Janie23]

Everyone is reacting to a dead girl. It’s not polite to speak of it as metaphorical sleep as the vulgar cat is already out of the bag. The least a decent person can do is respect everyone’s grasp of reality and not chose that time to make some bizarre semantic point. There are hits and there are misses. And that was a BIG TIME miss on many levels!

Jesus is often credited with being the ultimate example of what it looks like to be compassionate. Not in this scene.

I don't think this interpretation is correct.

First, we have to take it in context. Jairus comes to Jesus, asking him to heal his daughter. Jesus tells him to have faith, and it will be so. As they go to his house, a woman who's bled for twelve years touches Jesus's hem, also from a place of faith, and is healed -- and note, she doesn't ask Jesus for this. It happens, and Jesus only notices after the fact. The point of this passage -- both for the bleeding woman, and soon for the Jairus and his daughter -- is that it is faith in Jesus that heals.

Someone comes from Jairus's house, saying the girl is dead. Again, Jesus tells Jairus to have faith. When they get to the house, people are behaving as if the girl has died, and Jesus rebukes them: this is where he says she's not dead, but asleep. He makes the unbelievers leave, and then commands the girl to get up, and she awakens.

Jesus isn't making a "bizarre semantic point." He is asserting at least two truths. First, he asserts that the state of affairs as presented by the unbelievers is incorrect -- for the daughter does indeed awaken, her life has not ended, and the people who were scorning Jesus and the faith of his supplicants were wrong. Second, and this is the more timeless truth, given the whole message of his Work, is the metaphor he provides that Death is Sleep. He proves this with Jairus's daughter, with Lazarus, and with his own Resurrection.

Finally, it is certainly compassionate that he delivers the Truth in a way that maintains the faith of Jairus, the mother, and his companions, and then delivers the goods.

Metaphor isn't the practice of semantics. It isn't flowery language, or poetics, or mere idiom. It is the practical use of a Source Domain to structure a Target Domain. It is a different order of truth than the plain literalism of mere Veritas. The use of metaphor doesn't imply that the language in play isn't true. The word "metaphor" itself is from the Greek: meta-, which means "across, beyond" and pherein, which means "to carry." Together, the word means "to carry across," carrying meaning across from one domain to another.

One could argue (indeed, some have) that metaphor is the root of intelligence and understanding, that it is the way we transcend the earthly limitations of our brains.

 

[Janie23]

Just the same, Jesus healed all, no exceptions.

I think this is largely correct, but with some caveats.

First, Jesus heals all who have faith. Consider the Syrophoenician Woman (a Gentile) in Matthew 15: 21-28. She begs Jesus to cast demons out of her daughter. Jesus initially refuses: "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." She begs him again, and he rebukes her a second time: "It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs." The woman counters, expressing her faith: “Yes, Lord; but please help, for even the dogs feed on the crumbs that fall from their masters’ table.” Jesus relents: "O woman, your faith is great; it shall be done for you as you desire." And the daughter is healed.

We should also consider John 5: 1-9, the Healing at Bethesda. There is a "multitude" of sick people at the pool, but Jesus only heals one of them. Here, the context matters. This passage isn't to prove that Jesus heals all; indeed, he doesn't. Nor is it to prove that he heals only because of faith -- there's no mention of it from the man who is healed, who apparently didn't know Jesus at all. Rather, the point of the passage is one of (recurring) foreshadowing: that Jesus has "worked" on the Sabbath, and that he's calling himself the Son of God, which has raised the ire of the Jewish religious authorities -- an ire that will culminate in his Crucifixion and subsequent Resurrection for the sake of all of our salvation. In other words, this healing wasn't performed to demonstrate His divine origin, but to demonstrate that God has a Plan.

So I tend to be less upset than you with how The Chosen killed off Ramah. There are two reasons why Jesus wouldn't heal her (aside from being entirely fictional). First, her faith (or Thomas's faith) is insufficiently formed. Second, it isn't part of the Plan. Given the characterization up to this point, and the dialogue that it wasn't Ramah's "time," I think The Chosen is exploring the latter, and using it as a way to engage in apologetics. I didn't think it did this particularly well dramatically speaking, but I thank you for pointing out how misleading this fictional example can be with respect to the presentation of Jesus.

Now, this wouldn't be the first time the show engaged in apologetics. For example, there's a contradiction in the Gospels regarding the time Jesus sends out his twelve disciples in pairs to spread the Gospel. Matthew and Luke state that the disciples shouldn't even take a staff with them, in addition to taking no money, no bag, no bread, etc. But Mark says that a staff may be taken. Apologists have wrestled with this -- coming up with explanations like there was more than one mission, for example.

The Chosen misses an opportunity, here, for sure -- they use Mark for the scene when they could have used Matthew/Luke and then followed with the conversation Jesus has with Little James, who definitely needs a staff given his physical disability (another fictionalization). That would explain the contradiction.

But the conversation engages in perhaps the more important apologetic, as it revolves around why Jesus would prefer not to heal Little James at that moment: because James's work will be more effective by demonstrating he's willing to be patient with his suffering, knowing (or having faith) that this suffering will be alleviated in Eternity. Again, the logic here is that this is part of God's plan.

As such, this scene is (as is declining to heal Ramah) an apologetic of theodicy, a rebuke of the argument against God on the basis of suffering and evil. And of course, it echoes with the Scriptural commandment to take up your own cross.

Again, though, I have to thank you for pointing out how mingling apologetics with a depiction of the Gospels -- even with the most well-meaning intentions and charitable interpretation -- can nonetheless muddy the waters.

Much love,
Jane

 

[Wrangler]

Someone comes from Jairus's house, saying the girl is dead. ... When they get to the house, people are behaving as if the girl has died, and Jesus rebukes them: this is where he says she's not dead, but asleep.

They are not merely "saying" she is dead. What is the fact of the matter? Is she sleeping or dead?

He makes the unbelievers leave, and then commands the girl to get up, and she awakens.

Jesus isn't making a "bizarre semantic point."

Now you are making a bizarre semantic point. She doesn't "awaken" but comes back to life. Discernment.

I agree that Jesus rebuked them and that is bizarre because he's rebuking them for speaking the truth!

One could argue (indeed, some have) that metaphor is the root of intelligence and understanding, that it is the way we transcend the earthly limitations of our brains.

Yea. Yea. This can conveniently be used for all lies. I was just invoking a metaphor, which is the root of intelligence and understanding, that it is the way we transcend the earthly limitations of our brains. Is the girl dead or sleeping? Discernment.

 

[marks]

I think this is largely correct, but with some caveats.

1 caveat that I see . . . He healed all who came to Him for healing.

As far as the Ramah character (I've not watched that part), it's extrabiblical and presents something in disagreement with the Scripture. You've accepted this as plausible, as representative of the real Christ but I do most strongly disagree.

Much love!

 

[Janie23]

They are not merely "saying" she is dead. What is the fact of the matter? Is she sleeping or dead?

We don't have access to the "fact" of the matter, we only have the reports. The people who claim she is dead could be unreliable narrators; just because they think she's dead doesn't mean she actually is dead. Even today, people can mistake being comatose for being dead. In truth, we don't know. But if we are to exercise our faith in the most literal sense, we must believe Jesus in saying that she is asleep, and that the people around her were wrong.

Interestingly, this is a passage where Matthew differs from Luke and Mark. In Matthew, Jairus says she is dead, not dying, but then faithfully declares his faith saying, "but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live." But even here, Jairus is an administrator, not a doctor. Still, he has faith, which in all three Gospels is coupled with the faith healing of the bleeding woman -- obviously, this is all about the power of faith.

Furthermore, there is accordance between the Synoptics when he gets to the home of Jairus:

Matthew: "Give place: for the maid is not dead, but sleepeth." And they laughed him to scorn.​

Luke: "Stop weeping, for she has not died, but is asleep." And they began laughing at Him...​

Mark: "Why are you making a commotion and weeping? The child has not died, but is asleep." And they began laughing at Him.​

This is the only place where Jesus says she's sleeping. And indeed, she subsequently "arose," or "got up," which is much more consistent with having been asleep than with having been dead. To be quite literalist, without metaphor, she was asleep; Jesus was right, and those who thought her dead were wrong.

Thank you for the opportunity to clarify my thinking.

There is another possibility to consider. The girl was dead, until Jesus changed the reality of the situation by declaring she was sleeping, and then resolved her coma by laying on of hands. In which case, it would be mistaken to frame this scene as an either/or situation that requires a lie to resolve, it only requires a resurrection, itself hinging on the faith of the participants.

 

[Wrangler]

1 caveat that I see . . . He healed all who came to Him for healing.

As far as the Ramah character (I've not watched that part), it's extrabiblical and presents something in disagreement with the Scripture. You've accepted this as plausible, as representative of the real Christ but I do most strongly disagree.

Ramah did not come to Christ for healing in the show. The fictional Jesus did allowed her death to be permanent even though one of his disciples begged him to resurrect her.

 

[Wrangler]

There is another possibility to consider. The girl was dead, until Jesus changed the reality of the situation by declaring she was sleeping, and then resolved her coma by laying on of hands.

Are you familiar with eisegesis? There is nothing in the text that suggests Jesus changed the reality of the situation until he resurrected the dead girl.

 

[Janie23]

Q. Are you the Messiah? Are you the king?
A1. Yes.
A2. Well, you say it.

A2 is not a direct answer to a simple direct question? No ‘may be‘ about it.

Again, we must provide context, and a measure of exegetics. There are many more layers of truth in "You say it" versus "Yes."

First, the context. This happens twice in the Gospels -- in front of the Pharisees (who ask if he is Messiah) and in front of Pilate (who asks if he is King). In both cases, the authorities are trying to "trap" Jesus in his own words so they can persecute him. Neither Rome nor Sanhedrin are legitimate authority, so the "lie" originates their line of questioning, in the expectation of a simple answer while only pretending to ask a direct, simple question, while falsely assuming authority over the Son of Man.

"You say it" is affirmative in that he does not deny he is Messiah or King, while simultaneously recognizing and thwarting the duplicitous intentions of his interlocutors, their lack of divine authority (Jesus answers to God, not earthly political and religious bodies), and quite possibly their lack of understanding in what they're really asking.

It was in fact an idiom of the time, a way of saying "yes" without uttering forbidden words -- there was already a tradition from the Talmud and Midrash for using the passive-affirmative in tense political, religious, or social contexts. For example, back when Rabbi Judah died, the other rabbis of that time had declared that anyone bringing news of his death would be executed. The messenger, knowing this, replied "Ye have said it" when the crowd asked him, "Is the Rabbi dead?"

Getting back to the Gospels, even before the aforementioned scenes with Rome and Sandhedrin, Judas asks if he himself is the betrayer, and Jesus answers, "You have said so." This technically (and accurately) demonstrates that the accusation came out of the guilty person's mouth. Given this context in particular, we can draw a connection between Judas, Pilate, and Pharisees -- it is they who are guilty, guilty for setting rhetorical traps.

He who hath ears, let him hear.

 

[Wrangler]

There are many more layers of truth in "You say it" versus "Yes."

Neither Rome nor Sanhedrin are legitimate authority, so the "lie" originates their line of questioning

Wow

 

[amigo de christo]

It believe that scene was between Matthew and Mary, but yes, she was definitely writing something. I hadn't considered, though, that it was reference to The Gospel of Mary.

(BTW, I like your user name. It reads as both "shepherds word" and "shepherd sword.")

Anyways, at first blush, I struggle to find much connection between Mary's words at the end of that episode, and that gnostic text. But her words at the end of the episode do have some gnostic characteristics -- there's a measure of a "union of opposites" when she talks about the sweet and the bitter, and the darkness and the light.

More striking to me was how that episode (and the preceding one) started ramping up its use of the language and techniques of another gnostic televisual text, one with which I am too familiar.

verily verily i do say unto thee , that has been the plan all along .
Keep presenting another jesus . A humaistic more new age one that will pander to man and the desires of man .
I had sooner watch a death heavy metal rock concert than the chosen .
AND BELIEVE YOU ME i have ZERO desire to do that .
But at least with the heavy metal YOU know what you get ting .
THEY ARE TRYING TO SLOWLY change the REAL JESUS into something more compatible to the flesh and desires of man .
WE would marvel at how many now BELIEVE INCLUSVISM , NEW AGE STUFF and they LEAD this people and present
this other jesus . They aint fooling this sheep . Themselves , YEAH they fool themselves and all who sit and gather
under them and their presentation of this other jesus .

 

[Anchorite]

Biblical Errors in The Chosen


While there are a few scenes in The Chosen, like the woman at the well, that add some feasible details to the gospel account, in most cases, the fictional additions are distorting the person of Jesus and the historical events recorded in scripture.

When unbiblical, disrespectful, or trivializing scenes are presented as portraying a legitimate film version of the gospel, people who watch The Chosen may have trouble deleting these scenes from their mind, separating them from the true gospel accounts. They may consider the fictional additions to be on the same level as scripture, thereby forming false impressions of who Jesus is.


1. Jesus saying, "I am the law of Moses."

In the gospels, Jesus never said this.


2. Jesus supposedly transgresses (i.e. sins).


3. The writers have Jesus saying, “Some things even I cannot do.”

In The Chosen, Jesus jokes in Season 2 that there are things he cannot do, such as turning a poor dancer into a good one. This fictional, casual, lighthearted moment, in response to Simon's request, is not in keeping with the true personality of Jesus. We should not imagine Jesus as being a comedian who makes fun of people.


4. Jesus practices His sermons, welcomes advice, and worries about how the audience will react.


5. Mary Magdalene says she first saw Jesus in a tavern, then goes on to say, "He put his hand on mine", adding, "which is not what it sounds like". She recommends that John leave that part out of his book, so people don't get confused... just another way The Chosen creates questions and doubts.


6. Adding questionable things into the storylines (Mary being a prostitute, Simon becoming a spy for the Romans, Roman undercover agent sent to spy on Jesus and his followers, peter’s wife miscarries and is cold and hateful towards her husband, Jesus will raise Jairus’s daughter from the dead, yet he will not raise Peter’s unborn child from the dead.)


7. The feeding of the 5000 is portrayed wrong. The Bible says Jesus went up to a mountain, and taught His disciples. The Chosen has him on a plain, teaching the big group.


8. Focusing on feelings and the heart (Jesus asking Nicodemus, "what does your heart tell you?")

Remember, the Bible says, "the heart is deceptively wicked".

Later in the series, Jesus says, "Soon it'll all be about the heart”. The Chosen distorts the gospel with such mystical new age teachings.


9. Nicodemus kneels at Jesus’ feet and Jesus stops him, telling Nicodemus he doesn't need to worship Him. But Jesus is God and He deserves worship.


10. In the portrayal of the story of the men who bring the paralytic to Jesus, The Chosen has "Tamar" (who is a fictional, made-up character in the series) leading the way, and it’s made clear this is all her idea.

Mary Magdalene reproves Simon when he attempts to stop them from coming through the roof (which would not have been her place in that culture).

Instead of Jesus affirming the faith of the men who brought the man for healing, The Chosen's Jesus commends the faith of the women instead. That’s not being faithful to Scripture, that’s pushing an agenda.


11. Jesus refusing to heal Little James (This contradicts the Scripture that says Jesus healed all who came to Him.)


12. Throughout the series, disciples are running around with notepads and writing down hearsay that will become their supposed Biblical books.

In one case, a woman runs by crying, "He healed me!"

Matthew, in desperation, calls her saying, "Healed you of what?"

The show attempts to deny the inspiration of Scripture, portraying the gospels as common books comprised of hearsay.


13. According to The Chosen, John 21:25 came from Mary Magdalene and not John himself. In their rewritten gospel, The Chosen Mary Magdalene plays an oddly feministic role for that time period.


14. The Chosen's John the Baptist is arrogant, disrespectful, and always questioning Jesus.


15. The Chosen's John the Baptist tells Jesus he is planning on marching into Herod's palace to tell him off, and then adds, "My followers will love it."

This isn’t what happened! In the Bible, John stated, "I must decrease", so why does The Chosen portray him as arrogant?

In one scene, Jesus says he is not ready to get into specifics, and in a flippant voice John the Baptist responds, “You appear to not be ready to get into the specifics on a lot of things”.

In a previous discussion, Jesus speaks to John the Baptist regarding incest and adultery, saying, "I understand it is against the law of Moses, but I am here for bigger purposes than breaking rules".

This gives the impression from “Jesus” that John, who is about to confront Herod, is uninspired and even foolhardy—and that “Jesus” doesn’t care about the Ten Commandments.

While John the Baptist disrespects Christ, Peter disrespects John the Baptist, calling him "Creepy John".

In the show, Peter and his brother describe John the Baptist, saying, “Behold the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world”—and do so in a way that destroys the beautiful solemnity of that moment. Peter's brother begins, “He said ‘behold’...” and Peter interjects, “I am eating a bug”. This lame, sacrilegious attempt at humor ridicules John's recognition of Jesus as the Messiah and undermines the whole message—including Christ’s divinity.

In the show, Peter comes up to Jesus and says he will go with Him to the ends of the earth, a reference to Luke 22:33. Biblically speaking, this was a monumental point in the conversion of Peter.

But in The Chosen, this moment is destroyed when “Jesus” responds, “I hope so Simon, but I seem to remember there was a problem... something about Andrew's feet.”

This is disgusting. Peter had an unconverted heart that would make it impossible for him to keep his promise to Christ, yet viewers of The Chosen will never know how Jesus reveals the truth to him.

The show subtly distorts the Bible, belittles Christ, and is a subtle error of a most disturbing nature.

16. In The Chosen, season 4 Thomas is betrothed to a woman named Ramah. A Roman soldier stabs her, killing her.

Jesus looks at Thomas, who was pleading with Jesus to heal her wound, and Jesus says “She really loved you!” Jesus does not heal Ramah, because he states "it is not her time.”

• At many points in the Gospel, we’re told that Jesus healed “all” or “every” sick person that he encountered [e.g. Matthew 4:24, Matthew 8:16-17, Matthew 14:36; Mark 6:56; Luke 6:19].
• The Bible specifically mentions Jesus raising the dead [e.g. Mark 5:21-43; Luke 7:11-17; John 11].
• When the Bible explicitly describes Jesus not doing miracles, it is in response to unbelief [e.g. Matthew 5:38].
• The Bible does not mention Jesus withholding miracles due to timing.
• Therefore, the decision to have Jesus refuse to heal Ramah in Episode 3 is biblically inaccurate.

17. In Season 4, Episode 5 of The Chosen, Mother Mary washes Jesus' hair in a tender, intimate scene highlighting his humanity and their mother-son bond. Amidst rising frustrations and the burdens of his ministry, this absurd fictional moment makes Jesus look like He needs to confide in his mother, which is not biblical or likely. Mary did not seem to understand His mission, and once thought He was out of touch with reality.

Mark 3:21

When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.”

Jesus went off to lonely secluded places to confide in His Father when Jesus needed support or comfort.


18. In the show, many Biblical characters are depicted as drunks.

The first encounter with Nathanael portrays him as a drunkard and a failed architect (Nathanael is just one of the misrepresented biblical characters). Circumstances prompt him to drown out his failure in the pub, a common backdrop in the series.

Why would the show present Nathanael in such a light when Jesus Himself declared, “Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile”? This show would lead us to believe that these things are compatible with Christianity.



19. To bring God down to our level, The Chosen includes a scene where Jesus prepares a sermon and rehearses well-known passages, making them feel more human and common than inspired by His Father.

His mother interrupts him during one of these rehearsals, and you can see the frustration in his eyes.

During this same interaction with Jesus and Mary, she says, "I'm proud of you" to which this supposed Jesus replies, “Maybe wait to say that until after I’m done, in case I mess up in front of such a big crowd.”

THIS IS JESUS! This show gratifies the evil heart by demeaning our Lord and Savior.

 

[amigo de christo]

Biblical Errors in The Chosen

1. Jesus saying, "I am the law of Moses."

2. Jesus supposedly transgresses (i.e. sins)

3. The writers have Jesus saying, “Some things even I cannot do.”

5. Mary Magdalene says she first saw Jesus in a tavern, then goes on to say, "He put his hand on mine", adding, "which is not what it sounds like". She recommends that John leave that part out of his book, so people don't get confused... just another way The Chosen creates questions and doubts.

6. Adding questionable things into the storylines (Mary being a prostitute, Simon becoming a spy for the Romans, Roman undercover agent sent to spy on Jesus and his followers, peter’s wife miscarries and is cold and hateful towards her husband, Jesus will raise Jairus’s daughter from the dead, yet he will not raise Peter’s unborn child from the dead.)

7. The feeding of the 5000 is portrayed wrong. The Bible says Jesus went up to a mountain, and taught His disciples. The Chosen has him on a plain, teaching the big group.

8. Focusing on feelings and the heart (Jesus asking Nicodemus, "what does your heart tell you?")

Remember, the Bible says, "the heart is deceptively wicked".

Later in the series, Jesus says, "Soon it'll all be about the heart”. The Chosen distorts the gospel with such mystical new age teachings.

9. Nicodemus kneels at Jesus’ feet and Jesus stops him, telling Nicodemus he doesn't need to worship Him. But Jesus is God and He deserves worship.

10. In the portrayal of the story of the men who bring the paralytic to Jesus, The Chosen has "Tamar" (who is a fictional, made-up character in the series) leading the way, and it’s made clear this is all her idea.

Mary Magdalene reproves Simon when he attempts to stop them from coming through the roof (which would not have been her place in that culture).

Instead of Jesus affirming the faith of the men who brought the man for healing, The Chosen's Jesus commends the faith of the women instead. That’s not being faithful to Scripture, that’s pushing an agenda.

11. Jesus refusing to heal Little James (This contradicts the Scripture that says Jesus healed all who came to Him.)

12. Throughout the series, disciples are running around with notepads and writing down hearsay that will become their supposed Biblical books.

In one case, a woman runs by crying, "He healed me!"

Matthew, in desperation, calls her saying, "Healed you of what?"

The show attempts to deny the inspiration of the gospels, portraying them as common books comprised of hearsay.

13. According to The Chosen, John 21:25 came from Mary Magdalene and not John himself. In their rewritten gospel, The Chosen Mary Magdalene plays an oddly feministic role for that time period.

14. The Chosen's John the Baptist is arrogant, disrespectful, and always questioning Jesus.

15. The Chosen's John the Baptist tells Jesus he is planning on marching into Herod's palace to tell him off, and then adds, "My followers will love it."

This isn’t what happened! In the Bible, John stated, "I must decrease", so why does The Chosen portray him as arrogant?

16. In The Chosen, season 4 Thomas is betrothed to a woman named Ramah. A Roman soldier stabs her, killing her.

Jesus looks at Thomas, who was pleading with Jesus to heal her wound, and Jesus says “She really loved you!” Jesus does not heal Ramah because he states "it is not her time.”

• At many points in the Gospel, we’re told that Jesus healed “all” or “every” sick person that he encountered [e.g. Matthew 4:24, Matthew 8:16-17, Matthew 14:36; Mark 6:56; Luke 6:19].
• The Bible specifically mentions Jesus raising the dead [e.g. Mark 5:21-43; Luke 7:11-17; John 11].
• When the Bible explicitly describes Jesus not doing miracles, it is in response to unbelief [e.g. Matthew 5:38].
• The Bible does not mention Jesus withholding miracles due to timing.
• Therefore, the decision to have Jesus refuse to heal Ramah in Episode 3 is biblically inaccurate.

17. In Season 4, Episode 5 of The Chosen, Mother Mary washes Jesus' hair in a tender, intimate scene highlighting his humanity and their mother-son bond. Amidst rising frustrations and the burdens of his ministry, this absurd fictional moment makes Jesus look like He needs to confide in his mother, which is not biblical or likely. Mary did not seem to understand His mission, and once thought He was out of touch with reality.

Mark 3:21

When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.”


Jesus went off to lonely secluded places to confide in His Father when Jesus needed support or comfort.

just number two alone is upmost blasphemy . i mean upmost blasphemy .
AS IF GOD can sin . now before folks accuse me of blasphemy
I sug gest we do us some bible reading . For in the beginning was THE WORD
and the Word was with GOD and the Word .........................was GOD .
THAT IS WHO SAVED US MY FRIEND and my friends . THERE IS no other GOD but GOD .
Now to the trenches one and all . WE have us a real GOSPEL to contend for ..........

 

[amigo de christo]

Biblical Errors in The Chosen

1. Jesus saying, "I am the law of Moses."

2. Jesus supposedly transgresses (i.e. sins)

3. The writers have Jesus saying, “Some things even I cannot do.”

5. Mary Magdalene says she first saw Jesus in a tavern, then goes on to say, "He put his hand on mine", adding, "which is not what it sounds like". She recommends that John leave that part out of his book, so people don't get confused... just another way The Chosen creates questions and doubts.

6. Adding questionable things into the storylines (Mary being a prostitute, Simon becoming a spy for the Romans, Roman undercover agent sent to spy on Jesus and his followers, peter’s wife miscarries and is cold and hateful towards her husband, Jesus will raise Jairus’s daughter from the dead, yet he will not raise Peter’s unborn child from the dead.)

7. The feeding of the 5000 is portrayed wrong. The Bible says Jesus went up to a mountain, and taught His disciples. The Chosen has him on a plain, teaching the big group.

8. Focusing on feelings and the heart (Jesus asking Nicodemus, "what does your heart tell you?")

Remember, the Bible says, "the heart is deceptively wicked".

Later in the series, Jesus says, "Soon it'll all be about the heart”. The Chosen distorts the gospel with such mystical new age teachings.

9. Nicodemus kneels at Jesus’ feet and Jesus stops him, telling Nicodemus he doesn't need to worship Him. But Jesus is God and He deserves worship.

10. In the portrayal of the story of the men who bring the paralytic to Jesus, The Chosen has "Tamar" (who is a fictional, made-up character in the series) leading the way, and it’s made clear this is all her idea.

Mary Magdalene reproves Simon when he attempts to stop them from coming through the roof (which would not have been her place in that culture).

Instead of Jesus affirming the faith of the men who brought the man for healing, The Chosen's Jesus commends the faith of the women instead. That’s not being faithful to Scripture, that’s pushing an agenda.

11. Jesus refusing to heal Little James (This contradicts the Scripture that says Jesus healed all who came to Him.)

12. Throughout the series, disciples are running around with notepads and writing down hearsay that will become their supposed Biblical books.

In one case, a woman runs by crying, "He healed me!"

Matthew, in desperation, calls her saying, "Healed you of what?"

The show attempts to deny the inspiration of the gospels, portraying them as common books comprised of hearsay.

13. According to The Chosen, John 21:25 came from Mary Magdalene and not John himself. In their rewritten gospel, The Chosen Mary Magdalene plays an oddly feministic role for that time period.

14. The Chosen's John the Baptist is arrogant, disrespectful, and always questioning Jesus.

15. The Chosen's John the Baptist tells Jesus he is planning on marching into Herod's palace to tell him off, and then adds, "My followers will love it."

This isn’t what happened! In the Bible, John stated, "I must decrease", so why does The Chosen portray him as arrogant?

16. In The Chosen, season 4 Thomas is betrothed to a woman named Ramah. A Roman soldier stabs her, killing her.

Jesus looks at Thomas, who was pleading with Jesus to heal her wound, and Jesus says “She really loved you!” Jesus does not heal Ramah because he states "it is not her time.”

• At many points in the Gospel, we’re told that Jesus healed “all” or “every” sick person that he encountered [e.g. Matthew 4:24, Matthew 8:16-17, Matthew 14:36; Mark 6:56; Luke 6:19].
• The Bible specifically mentions Jesus raising the dead [e.g. Mark 5:21-43; Luke 7:11-17; John 11].
• When the Bible explicitly describes Jesus not doing miracles, it is in response to unbelief [e.g. Matthew 5:38].
• The Bible does not mention Jesus withholding miracles due to timing.
• Therefore, the decision to have Jesus refuse to heal Ramah in Episode 3 is biblically inaccurate.

17. In Season 4, Episode 5 of The Chosen, Mother Mary washes Jesus' hair in a tender, intimate scene highlighting his humanity and their mother-son bond. Amidst rising frustrations and the burdens of his ministry, this absurd fictional moment makes Jesus look like He needs to confide in his mother, which is not biblical or likely. Mary did not seem to understand His mission, and once thought He was out of touch with reality.

Mark 3:21

When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.”


Jesus went off to lonely secluded places to confide in His Father when Jesus needed support or comfort.

as i told another . YES INDEED my friend its all about presenting a new age jesus .
THEY LIE to us . BUT the words in that bible never lie . LET GOD be TRUE but every man a liar .

 

[amigo de christo]

Biblical Errors in The Chosen

1. Jesus saying, "I am the law of Moses."

2. Jesus supposedly transgresses (i.e. sins)

3. The writers have Jesus saying, “Some things even I cannot do.”

5. Mary Magdalene says she first saw Jesus in a tavern, then goes on to say, "He put his hand on mine", adding, "which is not what it sounds like". She recommends that John leave that part out of his book, so people don't get confused... just another way The Chosen creates questions and doubts.

6. Adding questionable things into the storylines (Mary being a prostitute, Simon becoming a spy for the Romans, Roman undercover agent sent to spy on Jesus and his followers, peter’s wife miscarries and is cold and hateful towards her husband, Jesus will raise Jairus’s daughter from the dead, yet he will not raise Peter’s unborn child from the dead.)

7. The feeding of the 5000 is portrayed wrong. The Bible says Jesus went up to a mountain, and taught His disciples. The Chosen has him on a plain, teaching the big group.

8. Focusing on feelings and the heart (Jesus asking Nicodemus, "what does your heart tell you?")

Remember, the Bible says, "the heart is deceptively wicked".

Later in the series, Jesus says, "Soon it'll all be about the heart”. The Chosen distorts the gospel with such mystical new age teachings.

9. Nicodemus kneels at Jesus’ feet and Jesus stops him, telling Nicodemus he doesn't need to worship Him. But Jesus is God and He deserves worship.

10. In the portrayal of the story of the men who bring the paralytic to Jesus, The Chosen has "Tamar" (who is a fictional, made-up character in the series) leading the way, and it’s made clear this is all her idea.

Mary Magdalene reproves Simon when he attempts to stop them from coming through the roof (which would not have been her place in that culture).

Instead of Jesus affirming the faith of the men who brought the man for healing, The Chosen's Jesus commends the faith of the women instead. That’s not being faithful to Scripture, that’s pushing an agenda.

11. Jesus refusing to heal Little James (This contradicts the Scripture that says Jesus healed all who came to Him.)

12. Throughout the series, disciples are running around with notepads and writing down hearsay that will become their supposed Biblical books.

In one case, a woman runs by crying, "He healed me!"

Matthew, in desperation, calls her saying, "Healed you of what?"

The show attempts to deny the inspiration of the gospels, portraying them as common books comprised of hearsay.

13. According to The Chosen, John 21:25 came from Mary Magdalene and not John himself. In their rewritten gospel, The Chosen Mary Magdalene plays an oddly feministic role for that time period.

14. The Chosen's John the Baptist is arrogant, disrespectful, and always questioning Jesus.

15. The Chosen's John the Baptist tells Jesus he is planning on marching into Herod's palace to tell him off, and then adds, "My followers will love it."

This isn’t what happened! In the Bible, John stated, "I must decrease", so why does The Chosen portray him as arrogant?

16. In The Chosen, season 4 Thomas is betrothed to a woman named Ramah. A Roman soldier stabs her, killing her.

Jesus looks at Thomas, who was pleading with Jesus to heal her wound, and Jesus says “She really loved you!” Jesus does not heal Ramah because he states "it is not her time.”

• At many points in the Gospel, we’re told that Jesus healed “all” or “every” sick person that he encountered [e.g. Matthew 4:24, Matthew 8:16-17, Matthew 14:36; Mark 6:56; Luke 6:19].
• The Bible specifically mentions Jesus raising the dead [e.g. Mark 5:21-43; Luke 7:11-17; John 11].
• When the Bible explicitly describes Jesus not doing miracles, it is in response to unbelief [e.g. Matthew 5:38].
• The Bible does not mention Jesus withholding miracles due to timing.
• Therefore, the decision to have Jesus refuse to heal Ramah in Episode 3 is biblically inaccurate.

17. In Season 4, Episode 5 of The Chosen, Mother Mary washes Jesus' hair in a tender, intimate scene highlighting his humanity and their mother-son bond. Amidst rising frustrations and the burdens of his ministry, this absurd fictional moment makes Jesus look like He needs to confide in his mother, which is not biblical or likely. Mary did not seem to understand His mission, and once thought He was out of touch with reality.

Mark 3:21

When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.”


Jesus went off to lonely secluded places to confide in His Father when Jesus needed support or comfort.

its all about leading them to inclusive JESUS .
you watch and behold . Soon the cry will be heard , as e ven now it has b een in some churches ,
DONT Judge the false religions YOU DONT KNOW THEIR HEART , they just serve God differently .
YOU WATCH . it was always about the merger of all reli goins under a god they can all agree upon and call GOD .

 

[Janie23]

Biblical Errors in The Chosen

its all about leading them to inclusive JESUS .

Yes, there are many Biblical errors in The Chosen, and in retrospect I have to agree some of them are egregious.

I'm not sure it's about leading to "inclusive Jesus," though -- in the show he definitely says he is there to divide, and to bring a sword. I tend to think the heresy that will be delivered is the gnostic one, in large part because the show has (increasingly) used the language and storytelling techniques of another gnostic televisual text, not to mention reference to an actual gnostic gospel.

 

[Wrangler]

Remember, the Bible says, "the heart is deceptively wicked".

This is one of the worst errors Christians make. In fact, in Christ we do have a heart that we can trust.

Ezekiel 36:26
26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.​

 

[Wrangler]

2. Jesus supposedly transgresses (i.e. sins).

I noticed there is no scene referenced. Don’t recall any such thing.

 

[Anchorite]

Another good list of biblical errors in The Chosen. This list is by seasons of the show.

Heresies are in the Chosen | StrivingForEternity.org

This article describes the heresies and shortcomings of the Chosen TV series. Heresies are in the show. It thrives on eisegesis.

strivingforeternity.org

 

[Wrangler]

3. The writers have Jesus saying, “Some things even I cannot do.”

This offends you some how? How is this different from John 14:31 No, I do what my father tells me to do.

 

[Wrangler]

In one scene, Jesus says he is not ready to get into specifics, and in a flippant voice John the Baptist responds, “You appear to not be ready to get into the specifics on a lot of things”.

You don’t find that plausible from Scripture John asked Jesus directly, are you the one or should we look for another?