Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

[covenantee]

Not true.
Modern Israel does not chase after false gods.
Build temples to false gods.

They reject Christ, and chase after the innumerable temporal substitute false gods of this world.

 

[Marty fox]

Not true.
Modern Israel does not chase after false gods.
Build temples to false gods.

If they don't as a nation recognize Jesus, then who do they reconize?

 

[Grailhunter]

temporal substitute false gods

What is that?

 

[Grailhunter]

If they don't as a nation recognize Jesus, then who do they reconize?

Jews worship Yahweh.

 

[covenantee]

What is that?

Galatians 5
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

 

[covenantee]

Jews worship Yahweh.

They certainly don't. Aren't you a theologian?

1 John 2
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

 

[Grailhunter]

Galatians 5
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

You think the Jews worship morality?

 

[Marty fox]

Jews worship Yahweh.

Most are atheist but the ones who think they know Him don't

John 8:19
Then they asked him, “Where is your father?” “You do not know me or my Father,” Jesus replied. “If you knew me, you would know my Father also.”

 

[Grailhunter]

Aren't you a theologian?

1 John 2
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Yes I am a Theologian.
I am just stating a fact.....modern Jews worship Yahweh.

 

[Grailhunter]

Most are atheist but the ones who think they know Him don't

John 8:19
Then they asked him, “Where is your father?” “You do not know me or my Father,” Jesus replied. “If you knew me, you would know my Father also.”

Jews are not atheist.
There beliefs are not right.....they missed the boat....so to speak.

 

[covenantee]

You think the Jews worship morality?

They worship neither the Son nor the Father. 1 John 2:23

 

[covenantee]

Yes I am a Theologian.
I am just stating a fact.....modern Jews worship Yahweh.

John declares your fact a fallacy.

 

[Marty fox]

Yes I am a Theologian.
I am just stating a fact.....modern Jews worship Yahweh.

They worship who they think the Father is but as Jesus Himself stated they don't know who the real Father is

 

[covenantee]

Jews are not atheist.
There beliefs are not right.....they missed the boat....so to speak.

They didn't miss the boat.

They refused to board the boat.

 

[WPM]

Yahweh, Yeshua, and the Holy Spirit....that is another topic.



Not Israel. The phrase spiritual fold does not appear in the scriptures. But Yeshua's ministry was to the Jews first. And this fold sent Him to the cross.

So, this fold of Jesus is ethnic and Christ-rejecting? Really? That is what we have been brought into? Wow!

 

[WPM]

They worship who they think the Father is but as Jesus Himself stated they don't know who the real Father is

I think he means he is a melodian. Lol

 

[Grailhunter]

Abraham worshipped Yahweh.
Yacob worshipped Yahweh.
David worshipped Yahweh.
Solomon worshipped Yahweh
The prophets worshipped Yahweh.
Yeshua worshipped Yahweh, He referred to Yahweh as His God.
The 1st century Jews worshipped Yahweh.
And modern Jews worship Yahweh.

 

[grafted branch]

Abraham worshipped Yahweh.
Yacob worshipped Yahweh.
David worshipped Yahweh.
Solomon worshipped Yahweh
The prophets worshipped Yahweh.
Yeshua worshipped Yahweh, He referred to Yahweh as His God.
The 1st century Jews worshipped Yahweh.
And modern Jews worship Yahweh.

John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Would you say modern Jews are true worshipers?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

That is not what I said....I said....>The spiritual is wonderful and real....But the concept is the playground for imaginative minds.
Also we need to be cautious of false teachings.

We should be cautious of false teachings regarding both physical and spiritual realities. You don't seem to want to even talk about spiritual realities.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You guys are addressing the topic of Israel all wrong.

We are addressing it according to what scripture says about Israel. That is the right way to do it. You are denying the New Testament scriptures which speak of an Israel that is spiritual in nature and you're trying to call it metaphorical as if it doesn't actually exist. You are very ignorant of what is taught in the New Testament, as are all dispensationalists.