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Dan Clarkston

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I guess I was wrong.

We KNOW you are wrong... no need to guess about such things


For a some minutes this morning I thought you might be one of the very few on this forum one could have a decent discussion with.

For that you'll need to find someone that automatically agrees with all you say who never questions your point of view kinda like all you people that blindly follow Trumpie bear and his funny hair or those ridin with sleepy Joey Biden
 

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Sailors do not have the Holy Spirit?

Not the ones walking after the flesh... those using vile and foul language are not being led by the Holy Spirit of the Lord Jesus

These people doing such as led by demons... fake "holy spirits" sent by satan to deceive.
 

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Not the ones walking after the flesh... those using vile and foul language are not being led by the Holy Spirit of the Lord Jesus

These people doing such as led by demons... fake "holy spirits" sent by satan to deceive.

You can have the Holy Spirit ----and not be filled with the Spirit.
That is why it says....

Do not grieve the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 4:30.

You can have the Holy Spirit and still walk in the flesh if a believer is not careful.
That is why we are told not to grieve the Holy Spirit!

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That's what satan keep telling those of the greasy grace perversion... but he lied.

Only those led by the Holy Spirit are the sons of God. Romans 8:14
I see you did not bother to look up Ephesians 4:30.....


And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Ephesians 4:30

It says we have been sealed by the Spirit.
To guarantee that no matter how arrogant and stupid a saved person may become?
He is still going to be saved on the day of redemption.

Don't miss out.
Find a wise teacher.
Not one to simply tell you what you naturally want to believe.

In Christ ........
 
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I see you did not bother to look up ..... Romans 8:14

Those not being led of the Holy Spirit are not the children of the Lord.

They have turned from the Lord and are now being led by the devil.




Yeah yeah we know what you greasy grace people believe.... even if we live in sin we are still saved.

The devil so appreciates you spreading his heresy around like that.
I think I am done with your highly judgmental and cruel way of thinking.

Otherwise, I would try reasoning with you.
 

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I think I am done with your highly judgmental and cruel way of thinking.

Otherwise, I would try reasoning with you.

No problem, I'll continue to reason with the Lord on His level which is what accepting the whole counsel of God looks like. Cherry pickers need not reply disagree.gif

Advocating for being carnal minded living in sin is still being saved ends badly, but you do you. Enjoy!
 

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No – the government-sanctioned murder of over 65 MILLION human lives in 53 years is THE MOST crucial issue of our times. It DWARFS everything else.
Perhaps you should do some homework and see that abortions increased last year from 2024.

YOU said that we put too much emphasis on those things.
Where, exactly, did I say that? If you can't link to the exact post, then you're bearing false witness.

I disagree because I follow Christ.
You disagree with something I never said.

Maybe YOU should as well . . .

Have we murdered over 65 MILLION innocent “already born” humans??
Yeah - that's what I thought . . .
Not at all my argument. Please learn to follow the flow of arguments; it makes discussion much easier.

Yes - when there is ZERO evidence to bring to the table - accuse your opponent of lying . . .
But, you are lying. Or at least displaying a serious lack of comprehension.

NOT as much as the Marxists – which I already stated.
But, Leftists never see the error of their ways . . .
Says the pot...

All I said is that I have exposed their – and YOUR Leftist indoctrination – and I HAVE . . .
Now you're lying again. This is what you said, and what I was responding to: "Nobody vomits-out lies like YOU do, while at the same time, pretending to be the morally-superior to anyone . . .". (HERE)

So, I repeat: If I've said even one lie, then show what it is. Otherwise stop bearing false witness.

Uhhh, it was YOU who made the following statement:
Who cares if he's been shot or has faced assassination attempts--he's not the first President nor the last who has or will face such. ”

That’s an abominable statement . . .
Please at least try and follow the discussion. You first stated: "Not only has President Trump NOT profited during his time as President, He LOST a great deal of his fortune during histerms as President and hasn't taken a PENNY of pay for his service. He has been marked for repeared assasinatioon attempts and has even been SHOT. He factedover 400 years in prison over FALSE charges from the Democrat machile - who ultimately failed." (HERE)

But that "He has been marked for repeared assasinatioon attempts and has even been SHOT," is completely irrelevant to the discussion. Hence my reply.

That’s funny – because arrogance is ALL I’ve gotten from YOU in this thread . . .
Don't falsely equate stating facts with being arrogant.

Soooo - YOU know what is in a person's heart? Only GOD sees what is in a person's heart (1 Sam. 16:7).
YOUR judgement means absolutely
NOTHING (1 Cor. 4:3) . . .
Jesus said we can judge a tree by its fruit and all Trump displays is bad, rotten fruit. God ultimately knows, of course, but not only is there zero godliness seen in Trump, he has openly stated he isn't a Christian and displays only wickedness.

What “wicked speech”. When he says he’ll make Canada a State - or changes the name to the Gulf of America – YOU guys all spontaneously combust. That’s funny . . .
He hasn't stopped name-calling since running for his first term. He drops a lot of f-bombs. He lies, a lot. He makes fun of people. And, yes, saying he'll make Canada a State is highly offensive to a sovereign nation, but you wouldn't understand if you don't care about anyone but yourself and your own country. And he isn't joking about it either.

Poking fun at Leftist extremists isn’t “wicked”. If that were the case – then it would be a SIN to laugh at virtually EVERYTHING.
Actually, biblically speaking, it is wicked. But you would only know that if you read the Bible.

Let's see . . . He has appointed and campaigned for NUMEROUS women. A “misogynist” would NEVER do that. His treatment of the Leftist, lying press extends BEYOND the female reporters. He has put PLENTY of male reporters in their place as well.
He's also let a lot of women go.

A “greedy” President would NOT have left office with a DEFICIT in his personal wealth. He is the ONLY President who left office POORER that when he entered. Get your facts straight. I simply pointed to others like Pelosi because TDS-infectees like YOU always vomit-out attacks on Trump while giving everyone else a pass.
I'm not giving anyone a pass. The discussion is about Trump, no one else. And in this term, Trump has made over $2 billion because he is utterly corrupt and unethical.

TDS in its PUREST form . . .
There you go, speaking wickedness, copying Trump. You become what you worship, so be careful.

Because we could sit here ALL day pointing out things we dislike about each other’s political favorites.
A waste of time . . .
Except it isn't when you are unable to admit that Trump is the most greedy, wicked, corrupt, infantile, narcissistic President in U.S. history, and perhaps of any leader in the West. Once you can acknowledge that and get out of the MAGA cult, you'll be much better off.

Coming from a Leftist Canadian (oxymoron) that really doesn’t mean much . . .
Do you even know what "oxymoron" means? Are "Democrat American" and "Republican American" oxymorons? No, they're not. And, no, I'm not a leftist.

Ummm, I’ve got news for you, my uninformed friend:

We have NEVER been a Democracy. The Founding Fathers were much smarter than that.
We are a Federal Republic and always HEVE been.
Except that even Republics are democratic, so you're just skirting the problem.

That’s part of what makes us the greatest nation on earth . . .
There is the arrogance...

I don’t idolize anybody.
My faith is in Christ – and Christ ALONE.
It certainly appears otherwise.
 

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Reciprocal tariffs are fair. Countries have been charging us more than we charge them. It's payback time.
So, instead of actually addressing anything, you simply repeat Trump's talking points. Again, Trump has zero idea what he's talking about in regards to trade, tariffs, and politics. Trade deals necessarily require compromise by all parties involved. I suggest you actually deal with the evidence of his incompetence, including the fact that he tore up NAFTA, helped draft USMCA in his first term, calling it the best deal ever, then came in the second term and asked, "Who would ever sign a thing like this?". And now he doesn't want to abide by its terms.

He is as untrustworthy a person as could ever be, on top of everything else. It's no wonder the rest of the world is making deals and leaving the U.S. out of them.

His business mind is brilliant. That's why he's worth billions and you aren't.
He might have a business mind, I don't know, but then that would be the problem--he's running the U.S. like a business. And that's why the U.S. has the highest level of debt in its history (so much for DOGE--every reasonably intelligent person knew what was going on). He's only worth billions because he is so corrupt and unethical; the evidence is everywhere. That just takes a wicked mind, not a brilliant one (and a Congress that is too fearful or corrupt to do anything).
 

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It's A New Day and we have a New Lake AMERICA!!!!


REEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeee

LOL

Good Evening folks!

Look if you don't have a sense of humor by now, You probably never will.
LOLOLOLOLOL

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HUGS
:D
 
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Again, Trump has zero idea what he's talking about in regards to trade, tariffs, and politics.
Don't need to hear again the false claims you already made.
There is plenty corruption that Trump is exposing. Both sides have improperly used tax payer money and overspent since 2000. In the 90's our budget was nearly balanced. Then 9/11 brought on the Iraq and Afganistan wars coatings trillions iver the years, then 2008 economic crash, then bailouts, printing money - trillions ... just foolish and wreckless governing. Americans themselves are in debt and spend 80% more on credit than they did in 50's and 60's when they paid mostly with cash. It's all out of control. Lawyers are at the bottom of the list of trustworthy people and most of Congress are lawyers. Trump is not. Doesn't even accept a salary nor does not need the job to increase his wealth like all others practically have. I think he actually lost wealth.
 
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Perhaps you should do some homework and see that abortions increased last year from 2024.
Probably MORE than you know . . .
Doctors cannot account for the number of abortions due to RU486 because they are self-administered.

That only bolsters MY argument about the urgency of this topic.

Where, exactly, did I say that? If you can't link to the exact post, then you're bearing false witness.
In post #106 – you minimized the importance of the issue of Abortion by stating:

“Two of the main problem with Republican evangelicals is 1) they are far too narrowly focused on LGBTQ+ and abortion as important as they are”

They aren’t just “important” – but two of the MOST important issues of our time. Not only will this nation be judged for the unbridled MURDERS of tens of MILLIONS of innocent children – it was precisely the issue of “LGBTQ+++++++” that toppled the Roman Empire.

This world REFUSES to heed the warnings of history. We are ALL positioning ourselves to be conquered by Islam – just as the Romans were conquered by Germanic tribes.

And the band plays on . . .

You disagree with something I never said.
WRONG.

In post #226YOU said:
“Are you even able to see that what I said is not all that different from what you just said?”

I responded with:

“I disagree because I follow Christ.”
Not at all my argument. Please learn to follow the flow of arguments; it makes discussion much easier.
WRONG again.

In yet another attempt to minimize the horror of Abortion – YOU said in post #226:

“Are you even capable of seeing that there are many other significant issues in the world, including how we treat those humans being that are already born?

I simply challenged you to provide similar numbers among those
“already born” . . .
But, you are lying. Or at least displaying a serious lack of comprehension.
PROVE it.

Your accusations mean absolutely NOTHING without
proof . . .
So, I repeat: If I've said even one lie, then show what it is. Otherwise stop bearing false witness.
You keep accusing me of “bearing FALSE witness” – which is a LIE . . .
But that "He has been marked for repeared assasinatioon attempts and has even been SHOT," is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to the discussion. Hence my reply.
WRONG again, son . . .

In post #26 – YOU said:

He cares for nothing except what he and his family and wealthy friends can gain from him being President.

In post #211, I corrected your claim that Trump was only in it for the money.
I educated you about the fact that he not only LOST money from being president – but that he was faced over 400 years in prison on FALSE charges. I also had to remind you that he was SHOT during one of the MANY attempts on his lie.

Not “irrelevant” at
ALL . . .
Jesus said we can judge a tree by its fruit and all Trump displays is bad, rotten fruit.
And YOU say that because he is making OUR country great – not yours.
That chore belongs to YOUR leaders . . .

Canada – and MOST other nations have been ripping is off for decades with tariffs and military protection. It’s time you ALL paid your fair share – and Trump is making SURE of that . . .
 

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God ultimately knows, of course, but not only is there zero godliness seen in Trump, he has openly stated he isn't a Christian and displays only wickedness.
And that’s why I call you a LIAR.
President Trump has NEVER stated that he is NOT a Christian. He HAS, however, claimied the exact OPPOSITE:


2011 - "I am CHRISTIAN."
- interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN)

2020 - "Though I was confirmed at a Presbyterian church as a child, I now consider myself to be a nondenominational CHRISTIAN."

- Religion News Service
He hasn't stopped name-calling since running for his first term. He drops a lot of f-bombs. He lies, a lot. He makes fun of people. And, yes, saying he'll make Canada a State is highly offensive to a sovereign nation, but you wouldn't understand if you don't care about anyone but yourself and your own country. And he isn't joking about it either.
Sure – he says that about Canada because you get ALL of the benefits from the United States without pledging allegiance.

THOUSANDS of Canadians cross over the border every day to get healthcare from us because your Socialist healthcare is so INFERIOR to ours. Your tariffs FAR-exceed anything we charge you. For example - you charge us over FOUR-HUNDRED PER CENT for dairy products alone. That’s NOT the act of a “Friend”. You should thank GOD we’re your neighbor. You depend on our our military protection without paying a CENT. You may as well be a state . . .

There would be NO Canada without the U.S. . . .

Actually, biblically speaking, it is wicked. But you would only know that if you read the Bible.
Ummm – YOU’VE been poking ridiculing Trump during this entire thread.

Does that make YOU wicked as well?


He's also let a lot of women go.
He’s let a few go, yes. There are also MEN who have been let go.
Women like Tulsi Gabbard and Karoline Leavitt left on their OWN to care for family.

A littles advice:
Cherry-picking facts is never a good idea in a debate . . .

I'm not giving anyone a pass. The discussion is about Trump, no one else. And in this term, Trump has made over $2 billion because he is utterly corrupt and unethical.
Sure, you have.

But, as a NON-AmericanYOU don’t really have a stake in Congressional corruption like WE do because you’re NOT paying for it. Those in Congress, like Nancy Pelosi who claim he’s “corrupt” have investment returns that are higher than Warren Buffet!

If President Trump was involved in any “financial corruption” – the Democrats would be ALL over him with
Impeachment bills . . .
There you go, speaking wickedness, copying Trump. You become what you worship, so be careful.
No – just pointing to your Trump Derangement Syndrome . . .
Except it isn't when you are unable to admit that Trump is the most greedy, wicked, corrupt, infantile, narcissistic President in U.S. history, and perhaps of any leader in the West. Once you can acknowledge that and get out of the MAGA cult, you'll be much better off.
Another CLASSIC example of TDS-infection . . .

Except that even Republics are democratic, so you're just skirting the problem.
Well, my angry Canadian friend – please present “Democracy” in ANY of our Founding Documents. It doesn’t exist. Whereas a Federal Republic like ours employs SOME elements of democracy – our Founding Fathers were wise enough to reject such a form of government.
There is the arrogance...
No – just a FACT.

Are MILLIONS of people flocking into Canada in search of a better life?
Absolutely NOT. But they ARE coming
here because it IS the greatest nation on earth. . .
It certainly appears otherwise.
Before you continue to bear false witness – show me ONE SINGLE Catholic teaching that we are to worship ANYBODY other than God.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church is available online . . .
 

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The latest: Bad poll after bad poll for Trump.​

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But of course anything bad about Trump is not true.

And this is why: The consumer is fed up paying for high labour costs.
Blame the trade unions demanding more and more.
The US has worked itself right out of the market.
Low quality and high retail cost will never work.
The consumer is decieved . and that goes for anyone whose hopes were in the left , the right and in the trump .
WHEN is this lost generation gonna figure out
NO matter who sits the throne , GUESS WHO PAYS the price . OH YEAH the people DO .
These nimrods are fooling and a fleecing the entire lott of anyone whose hopes were in men
NOT GOD .
and that is exactly why BOTH sides are being led to the same LIE of the same agenda .
These nimrods and this news folks on both sides
DO NOTHING but s tir the pot , put the blame on the other side
AND YET ALL ALONG its the people who pay the price .
AND Its the people BEING decieved too .
NOT THE SHEEP . and why not the sheep
cause THE SHEEP have ZERO to NO TRUST AND HOPE IN MAN .
THEY TRUST AND HOPE BE IN GOD AND IN HIS CHRIST .