Mystery Babylon-Understanding the imagery

[bbyrd009]

No, "Easter" is actually an invention of the KJV translators. Most translations refer to "Passover"--which is the proper rendering.

Ah, got it, ty

 

[bbyrd009]

And the hall that they built is shaped like a serpent - it's very eerie. Here is a movie about the end times if anyone cares to watch it. They talk about how those in the Skull & Bones practice the occult:

Revelation The Movie

heard about it haven't seen it yet, waiting for reviews what did you think?
By "end times" you mean the future and not Jesus' last days im assuming, right

are you aware that Scripturally speaking you are talking like a serpent right now? Hegelians are serpents i guess. Serpents are not "bad" though imo, don't get me wrong, Jesus was pole-raised like a snake, etc, prolly you and a few others of us will be too i guess, etc. I'm gonna try, but I don't know if i have the guts frankly, gotta have all three i guess. Must be comforting for a person to know how they are going to literally die.

 

[Soverign Grace]

heard about it haven't seen it yet, waiting for reviews what did you think?
By "end times" you mean the future and not Jesus' last days im assuming, right

You can find it online if you do a search. By end times I'm referring to the end of civilization and the return of Christ.

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

It's good to find someone who knows about the Jesuits. I just learned about them not long ago, and their murderous deeds. I still don't have a clear picture of everything just yet, but thanks for some clarification. I did read that they want to do away with Protestanism.

Yes, they are quite open about their hatred of Protestantism. They have always had the "Black Pope" (the Jesuit General--currently a Venezuelan socialist by the name of Arturo Sosa) and now, the White Pope (Francis I) is a Jesuit as well. That does not bode well. It has undoubtedly accelerated the RCC ambition to be the umbrella organization leading the "many expressions of the one world religion".

I read that is why they're flooding the countries with Catholic migrants.

Yes, LOTS of Vatican funds are being used to promote it. The Vatican has a number of prominent "socialists" in the lead at present. They are totalitarians, which the RCC has ALWAYS been. They supported the fascists in Europe when it suited their purposes. The goal is control of the masses and always has been. They HATE democracy and do everything they can to undermine it around the world. Abraham Lincoln was well aware of Jesuit treachery. He said of his two enemies, something like, "between the Confederate Army in front of us and the Jesuit army behind us, the Jesuits are much more to be feared." There have even been suggestions that the Jesuits were behind the assassination of Lincoln. Four out of five co-conspirators in the assassination plot were RC--I'd say that was pretty odd in a country which had few RC, as a percentage of the population, back then. I believe the Jesuits are also behind the attempt to sully Lincoln's image (i.e., suggesting he was a homosexual, drug addict, a murderer etc.). Lincoln has always been seen as one of the greatest American presidents for a reason--he, under the guidance of God, was responsible for saving the nation from predatory Europeans. The Jesuit Connection to the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln

What is their plan for flooding the UK and America with Muslims then?

All part of the plan to weaken America. America is the only force capable of standing up to globalist plans--which the RCC has ALWAYS been behind. A number of prominent European socialists (Tony Blair, for example) are Knights of Malta--a group whose members take an oath to defend and protect the RCC. (Blair converted to RC from the Anglican church some time ago.) Others are a part of other elite organizations. Macron of France is officially an atheist but there are strong rumors that he is a Freemason as well as Merkel and May. French Freemasonry has supposedly formed a link with the Vatican--all to promote globalism. The plan is apparently for a political globalism (the "Beast") to dominate Europe and the rest of the world (a European army is being strongly promoted by European globalists). And the "woman riding the Beast" would be the RCC--which will welcome all other religions under its umbrella. American Catholics have been enraged by a number of statements from Pope Francis. Among them, were statements of how much he appreciated all religions (a distinctly non-Catholic statement)--that a nation was made "beautiful" by all the different religions there! Priests who have served at the Vatican and spoken out about very dark operations in the Vatican, have a peculiar way of dying soon after--often in an "accident". There are 1.2 billion Catholics in the world. I pray that God awakens them in time to avoid what is coming from the Whore of Babylon.

 

[bbyrd009]

You can find it online if you do a search. By end times I'm referring to the end of civilization and the return of Christ.

Oh, that wasn't a link to the movie? Ok.

And ya, I was afraid of that, but I can adjust :)
What do you think the um, the Rohingya think about the end of civilization?

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

What do you think the um, the Rohingya think about the end of civilization?

I think they would probably say, "What civilization?" like every other refugee group who feel like pawns in a very deadly globalist game.

 

[bbyrd009]

I think they would probably say, "What civilization?" like every other refugee group who feel like pawns in a very deadly globalist game.

Apparently from their perspective no one outside their country was even involved though...

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

Apparently from their perspective no one outside their country was even involved though...

That is because the "unseen hand" is always, more or less, hidden from the masses (hint: that's why they call it "unseen"). The trained dogs in the media mock "conspiracy theory" but they are too stupid to realize that anyone who really knows anything about history understands that it is riddled through with conspiracies. It is quite within the nature of tyrants to lie, steal and murder (they learned it from their father, Satan) and the human race has produced LOTS of tyrants throughout history.

didn't know that, pretty interesting! I guess um Nahash meant something diff to them than us, for sure. Jesus even associated Himself--well, not really, when you read it i guess, He prolly said that we--the other we this time lol, humans--would associate Him with Nahash i guess.

I think the snake symbology is indicative of hatred of Yahweh, in the minds of His enemies. Those who identify themselves with dragons and snakes in their symbology, are telling us with whom they are aligned. God the Father, showed repeatedly throughout Scripture that He would have the ultimate victory over the serpent/dragon/Satan. Jesus would be the means of that victory over sin and death. Satan believes he is clever (and he is much more clever than we are) but he cannot and will not defeat the plan of God. It is breathtakingly effective.

Most people focus on John 3:16 but they miss something important in John 3:14-15. Jesus likened Himself to the bronze snake being held up on the pole by Moses. The sting of death which was being experienced by the Israelites for their sin, was defeated by looking on the bronze snake--depending on Yahweh to heal them. Scripture tells us that Jesus became sin for us (2 Corinthians 5:21). In the type seen in Moses' snake episode, the biting snakes represent sin among the people. Satan, the author of sin, is held up to ridicule and shame. Satan thought he was defeating God's plan in killing Jesus and holding Him up to ridicule and shame. But, Satan was defeated by that very act. That is why we are told that Jesus "despised [or disregarded] the shame..." (Hebrews 12:2) because of the anticipated joy in seeing humans freed from Satan's clutches. In fact, Jesus was wholly innocent and could not actually BE shamed. Satan loves to try to shame the innocent but, there can be no shame or condemnation for those who are fulfilling the Father's will for their lives. The writer of Hebrews makes the point, in the same passage, that in keeping our eyes on Jesus, the "author and finisher of our faith" we will escape the penalty for our sin. I always wondered if the Holy Spirit was calling us to remember Jesus' statement about Himself in John 3:14-15 as the one who would be held up on the pole for our healing from sin and death.

ah those days are pretty much over for me LC, i'm not much on recreational inebriation...Care to address any points, i mean...pls poke some holes in anything i said if you can, ok.

Glad to hear that you are no longer indulging in "recreational inebriation". As for "poking holes" I would first have to have a clear understanding of what you are actually saying--and that is not always the case. ;)

Fwiw @JellyJam 's confession the other day, when i was pretty low at the time, set off this chain-thing, after i got judgemental, then mad at God again, then ashamed, then then then. I could as easily gone the way of Jonah like in the past tho, glad there wasn't a gun here i guess lol

I'm glad too. Tell me more about being "mad at God"--you can send me a P.M. if you want.

 

[bbyrd009]

I think the snake symbology is indicative of hatred of Yahweh

why do you think that?

God the Father, showed repeatedly throughout Scripture that He would have the ultimate victory over the serpent/dragon/Satan

and so now the serpent is something to be fought, yes?

but that battle has already been won, hasn't it?

 

[bbyrd009]

Jesus would be the means of that victory over sin and death.

Yes, i got the brochure already ok, don't forget :)

Jesus would must be raised like a snake on a pole too, tho ok, and no offense but you don't know what that means yet

 

[Earburner]

Apparently, you know how to cut and paste Scripture but I fail to see why you think you have made some earth-shattering statement to me. I can and do read the Bible every day. I have known both of your quoted passages well for many years. Why should I remember what you have said over my own reading of the Bible? Did you mean to imply something? You have not provided a compelling reason why I should entertain any more of your posts. Good bye.

"Good bye"?? As in you will never reply to my posts again? Did I offend you, or was it the Lord's Truth that did?
However, if that's how you feel, then Okay, it's your loss.
BTW, since you are an avid reader of the Bible, that doesn't make you, myself or anyone "all knowing" about God's words.
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Most of us are all here for honest and sincere dialog, because we know that no one has all of the truth, but rather only some of the truth, of which is dispersed to all of us. Jesus said that the Holy Spirit will guide us into ALL truth. Can He use others of His people, to share His truth? Yes!

 

[bbyrd009]

Satan believes his is clever

Nothing could be further from the truth wadr; Satan is not a person, and "he" has no beliefs.
Or sex organs.

Get back to me if you find you can Quote a single belief that Satan has tho, ok.
ps pisteou is not "belief," you got 5 other roots for that, but not that one. Goodbye

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

why do you think that?

Because the Bible mentions snakes/serpents at least 80 times and, in almost every instance, they are associated with evil. Even pagans who worship snakes admit that they are "evil". While the animal itself was created by God, it is still a cursed animal because it somehow cooperated with Satan's act of deceiving Eve in the Garden. For those who hate God, it is a symbol of their rebellion.

and so now the serpent is something to be fought, yes?

but that battle has already been won, hasn't it?

Yes--the battle has already been won in the lives of those who believe God and are saved. But Satan is furious over his defeat and chooses to drag as many human souls to hell as he can, in order to try to hurt God.

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

Nothing could be further from the truth wadr; Satan is not a person, and "he" has no beliefs.
Or sex organs.

To the contrary, the Bible presents him as a fallen angel--certainly a "being". It also presents him as a thinking creature in the Book of Job.

Get back to me if you find you can Quote a single belief that Satan has tho, ok.

Check out Satan's dialogue with Yahweh in Job chapter one. Satan has erroneous beliefs but there it is.

pisteou is not "belief," you got 5 other roots for that, but not that one. Goodbye

Strong's Greek: 4100. πιστεύω (pisteuó) -- to believe, entrust

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

"Good bye"?? As in you will never reply to my posts again? Did I offend you, or was it the Lord's Truth that did? However, if that's how you feel, then Okay, it's your loss.

You have made it apparent that you believe that you have nothing to gain by having exchanges with others--or, at least, me.

BTW, since you are an avid reader of the Bible, that doesn't make you, myself or anyone "all knowing" about God's words.

I would be the last person to think that I am "all knowing" about God's words.
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Most of us are all here for honest and sincere dialog, because we know that no one has all of the truth, but rather only some of the truth, of which is dispersed to all of us. Jesus said that the Holy Spirit will guide us into ALL truth. Can He use others of His people, to share His truth? Yes!

I would readily agree to that statement. It is your first statement above that indicates your attitude toward other believers. My patience has worn thin with those who make such hostile statements.

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

Yes, i got the brochure already ok, don't forget :)

Jesus would must be raised like a snake on a pole too, tho ok, and no offense but you don't know what that means yet

And I'm sure you think you do, don't you?

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

And the hall that they built is shaped like a serpent - it's very eerie. Here is a movie about the end times if anyone cares to watch it. They talk about how those in the Skull & Bones practice the occult:

Revelation The Movie

There are many, many occult groups operating among the elites. They now seem to be converging.

 

[bbyrd009]

Fwiw to anyone, "Cult" does not mean "bad," except to uninformed babes; we all follow a cult, you worship a snake on a pole, Jesus, prolly even praise Him and maybe even pray to Him, or Mary even i guess, all of these are occult ok, doesn't make the practitioners "evil."

It makes you evil maybe, but not them.
They are all going to be judged for their works, same as you or me.
Pls stop this prattle.

Yes--the battle has already been won in the lives of those who believe God and are saved. But Satan is furious over his defeat and chooses to drag as many human souls to hell as he can, in order to hurt God.

Lol, does he have horns and a pointy tail, too? Pointy beard? Cherry-red dude?
cmon LC, srsly, pls tell me one time that you're not absolutely sure about...lol, all that
Cmon. take one step.

To the contrary, the Bible presents him as a fallen angel--certainly a "being". It also presents him as a thinking creature in the Book of Job.

Check out Satan's dialogue with Yahweh in Job chapter one. Satan has erroneous beliefs but there it is.
Strong's Greek: 4100. πιστεύω (pisteuó) -- to believe, entrust

It is really sad to see someone as far removed from their baptism as I'm given to understand you are preaching Church 101 at your betters as if they were adolescents you have backed into a corner, LC.
You have the exact same beliefs now as when you walked out of that Luby's celeb dinner, huh

dunno if i have all the truth at Jesus like Snake yet, but i do know you aren't even trying
BoD is going to get a pass that will not avail you imo, just so you know
you are confidently leading, but don't turn around whatever you do ok

spirits are not persons, not souls, and certainly being, yes.
they are anthropomorphised so little children can grasp the wind,
and the wise can have wisdom hidden from them

so you can turn faith into belief even though you already know better.

 

[bbyrd009]

Even pagans who worship snakes admit that they are "evil".

:)
ah, well i guess you got me there, you should bam agree with them i guess
Bc they must know what they're talking about right.
ok bye

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

It is really sad to see someone as far removed from their baptism as I'm given to understand you are preaching Church 101 at your betters as if they were adolescents you have backed into a corner, LC.

At my "betters"??! What an insufferably arrogant remark!

You have the exact same beliefs now as when you walked out of that Luby's celeb dinner, huh

You are being quite presumptuous in judging my faith. You know nothing of my personal walk.

dunno if i have all the truth at Jesus like Snake yet, but i do know you aren't even trying
BoD is going to get a pass that will not avail you imo, just so you know
you are confidently leading, but don't turn around whatever you do ok

I haven't noticed a big following for you, bbyrd. Is that how you think we are supposed to judge truth? By popularity? I do not lead--I'm just trying to find more of the truth every day as the Holy Spirit leads. It is quite sad that you think you know so much that you are entitled to abuse others.

spirits are not persons, not souls, and certainly being, yes.

Then you agree with me--Satan is a being.

they are anthropomorphised so little children can grasp the wind, and the wise can have wisdom hidden from them

Sure of that, are you?

so you can turn faith into belief even though you already know better.

Go suck a lemon--maybe it will sweeten your mood. Faith and belief are synonymous.