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Yehren

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Joseph77 said:
Everyone who gets a measles vaccine has seizures - most often only micro seizures.

Sounds like a testable claim. Let's see your data.


Yep. I'm not dumb enough to believe anything I read on social media. I you want me to believe, deliver some facts.

Find it yourself

You just told us everything we need to know about your claim. I was just checking to see if you had anything.
 

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Yep. I'm not dumb enough to believe anything I read on social media.
Yet that is exactly what you are doing every day.
Trusting society/ your 'doctors'/ media , 'professionals' , even when and though contrary to all Scripture.
 
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It turns out, the anti-vaccination movement was started by a crooked lawyer who paid off a doctor to fake a paper on the subject.
Andrew Wakefield - Wikipedia

A lot of this kind of thing is jump-started by greedy or power-hungry people seeking to gain an advantage by terrifying gullible people.

Are you kiddin' me! Talk about generating yet another fake conspiracy. Do you really believe this? There are tomes of material that indicates this modern version of pumping poisons into the body of unsuspecting public and the slow movement of resistance, began at least a couple of generations before this person of subject was born.

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Are you kiddin' me! Talk about generating yet another fake conspiracy. Do you really believe this? There are tomes of material that indicates this modern version of pumping poisons into the body of unsuspecting public and the slow movement of resistance, began at least a couple of generations before this person of subject was born.

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So many died from pumping poisons into their body before 1920, billions or even trillions of dollars was and is spent to cover it up, to fill more people with the same.
 
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How many generations have kids been exposed to disease ? (all of them)

Yep. Unlike you, I have some data:

measles-deaths.jpg


Because of advances in medicine, there had been a reduction in deaths due to measles from thousands of children a year, to a few hundred a year. After the introduction of vaccines, it fell to almost zero.

It's on the upswing now, as gullible people foolishly expose their children to disease.
 

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Are you kiddin' me! Talk about generating yet another fake conspiracy.

It's documented. The British Medical Journal Lancet investigated it and documented it. And they had the integrity to do so, after they had mistakenly published the faked paper.
Andrew Wakefield - Wikipedia

Do you really believe this? There are tomes of material that indicates this modern version of pumping poisons into the body of unsuspecting public and the slow movement of resistance, began at least a couple of generations before this person of subject was born.

That's also a testable claim. Let's see your data. Yes, I know..."Find it yourself."
 

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Here is an interesting question. If indeed a vaccination were created for Corona, and government ordered that all must be given it and it involved a chip implanted either in hand or forehead, would you do it? Or would you not?

I would not.

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Here is an interesting question.

(cue in theme from twilight zone)

If indeed a vaccination were created for Corona, and government ordered that all must be given it and it involved a chip implanted either in hand or forehead, would you do it? Or would you not?

You do understand that vaccines don't involve solid-state electronics, right?
 

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Yep. Unlike you, I have some data:

measles-deaths.jpg


Because of advances in medicine, there had been a reduction in deaths due to measles from thousands of children a year, to a few hundred a year. After the introduction of vaccines, it fell to almost zero.

It's on the upswing now, as gullible people foolishly expose their children to disease.
Look, stop this childish and over zealous reaction with your so-called data. You know you have to do better than that and add sources. Notice that even if I believed your source(s) for this graph, the figures still could be all 'cooked-up.' Notice that a poison (antigen induced) vaccine was never necessary at all, the measles deaths were declining naturally by 1968 by natural herd immunity. The artificial synthesized or live antigens can kill you mate and permanently weaken your natural immune system.

Admit it, you clearly believe that pharma and the medical industry are saints and are really trying to save and help people, as their FIRST priority.
Look here's an article that supports that vaccines are deadly. You can read it if you wish...although I do not believe you will bother.

Did US scientists kill Amazon Indians with vaccine?
Published:October 07, 2000DOI:Redirecting

US scientists working in the Amazon may have worsened a measles epidemic in the 1960s by administering a live-virus vaccine to “immune-depressed” Indians causing hundreds of deaths, according to a controversial article in the Oct 9 issue of US magazine The New Yorker.

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Trusting the foxes.... yeah, good idea .... (again)

I get it. "Lying! They are all lying, if they don't agree with my beliefs!" We've heard it all before. Same tune, new obsession.
 

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Look, stop this childish and over zealous reaction with your so-called data.

Sorry, facts are the way I roll. Don't like it? Tough. You want any credibility with me, you'll support your claims with facts.

It's a tough game, but it has the virtue of being real.

Admit it, you clearly believe that pharma and the medical industry are saints

And over-the-top emotional accusations won't help you, either. Scientists and doctors aren't usually saints. They're just people like the rest of us, trying to do their jobs as well as they can. In science, getting the truth is all that matters. In medicine, helping people get and be well is all that matters.

Calm yourself and try to put together a cogent response.

And I've spent a lot of time on the issue of immune-compromised individuals and live-virus immunizations. I implemented necessary questions for immunization techs in several AF hospitals, to be asked before giving such immunizations.

Among the issues was steroids, cancer treatments, immune disorders, and so on. Everyone got asked, unless a physician had seen the patient and ordered the immunization.

And I have a low opinion of drug companies generally, for a host of reasons.
 
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I get it. "Lying! They are all lying, if they don't agree with my beliefs!" We've heard it all before. Same tune, new obsession.
So, still obsessed and continuing to follow the foxes....?
 

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Sorry, facts are the way I roll. Don't like it? Tough. You want any credibility with me, you'll support your claims with facts.
It's a tough game, but it has the virtue of being real.
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Real? God says it is deception - trusting the foxes is cursed, not blessed.
 

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Look up what is in ALL usa vaccines that cause harm in everyone.
Look up what is ABSENT in japanese vaccines, so they do not cause harm (known anyway).

You do understand that vaccines don't involve solid-state electronics, right?
 
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Billionaire Bill Gates and his wife Melinda have committed $100 million of their own money to fight the coronavirus pandemic. In return, a fevered segment of the pro-Trump internet is convinced the couple wants to kill off a good portion of humanity, then install mark-of-the-beast style tracking chips in whoever survives.

On Wednesday, pro-Trump personalities and regular Trump White House guests “Diamond and Silk” became the latest to push conspiracy theories about Gates, tweeting that the Microsoft founder was operating on a secretive “agenda” to “rule the world with vaccines” and vowing not to take any coronavirus vaccine that Gates was involved with.

“You're not going to make black people the guinea pigs for this here right here,” Lynnette “Diamond” Hardaway said in a video.

“We're not going to be your experiment or your project,” Rochelle “Silk” Richardson added.

Diamond and Silk, who have visited the White House on several occasions, been featured as campaign surrogates and been boosted by Trump, aren’t alone. Newsmax White House correspondent Emerald Robinson claimed last week that Gates wants to use “vaccines to track people,” while Fox News host Laura Ingraham—who has met with Trump to discuss the coronavirus—tweeted that Gates and other “globalists” want to use the crisis to track people. Gates’s name appeared on protest signs meant to criticize Ohio’s social distancing order, while former Trump adviser Roger Stone accused Gates of wanting to “microchip” people.

Trumpists Believe Bill Gates Is Using Coronavirus to Implant Brain Chips
Just keep watching it get closer and closer to a chip that "monitors one's health".

This is globally doable.

The pandemic is the smoking gun to create a uniformity around the world.

I now realize that a global health crises can easily lead to the mark of the beast, and not e-money.

This GLOBAL financial crash must be prevented from happening again, at ANY cost, right?

Right.
 

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Just keep watching it get closer and closer to a chip that "monitors one's health".
This is globally doable.

Doable but largely unnecessary. Technology is closing in on that without need for any chip:
Qualcomm Tricorder XPRIZE)
The pandemic is the smoking gun to create a uniformity around the world.

First the International Postal Union. Then airlines all speaking English. Now tricorders. Where will it stop?!!!!!

I now realize that a global health crises can easily lead to the mark of the beast, and not e-money.
Here it is:
trump-signature-16x-9_colorcorrected.jpeg

(WFTH-I)

This GLOBAL financial crash must be prevented from happening again, at ANY cost, right?

I hear people saying that a few hundred thousand deaths is a cheap price to pay, but so far, most people don't seem to be buying it.
 
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