Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

[brian100]

Is Mary as important as Jesus to you?

Its important to know that Mary is important to Jesus.

 

[kcnalp]

Its important to know that Mary is important to Jesus.

Jesus is the Savior, not Mary.

 

[brian100]

Is Mary worth 0 to him? Think about what you said.

 

[kcnalp]

Is Mary worth 0 to him? Think about what you said.

I've thought about it many times. Jesus is the sinless Savior. Mary was a sinner.

 

[brian100]

You're 100% sure she was a sinner?

I'm only here to say why doesn't Mary matter. Doesn't sound like you are on his side if you hate his Mother. Its.. 'common sense' in any household.

 

[kcnalp]

You're 100% sure she was a sinner?

Of course. The Bible says so.

I'm only here to say why doesn't Mary matter.

Why are you making this up? Nobody said Mary doesn't matter.

Doesn't sound like you are on his side if you hate his Mother.

If you are saying I hate Mary you are lying.

 

[brian100]

Where does it specifically say Mary had sinned against God?

The Shroud shows Mary has a place there next to Jesus. She was so important to Jesus that she made it on his Shroud!

 

[kcnalp]

Where does it specifically say Mary had sinned against God?

Romans 3:23
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

 

[brian100]

Romans 3:23
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Then Jesus sinned too. Your logic is flawed. How can God sin against God.

Jews call him just a man.

 

[kcnalp]

Then Jesus sinned too.

Jews call him just a man.

Now you're calling Jesus a sinner? Then you have no forgiveness for your sins.

Jesus was sinless. Have you ever read the Bible?

1 Peter 2:21-22
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
22 "Who committed no sin, Nor was deceit found in His mouth";

 

[brian100]

You just said all had sinned. Paul contradicted himself.

So I now blow away your 'all thing'.

 

[kcnalp]

You just said all had sin. Paul contradicted himself.

So i now blow away your 'all thing'.

What is your religion if you hate the Bible?

1 Peter 2:21-22
21 For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps:
22 "Who committed no sin, Nor was deceit found in His mouth";

 

[brian100]

You are forced to admit Paul didn't know Mary.

You tossed in my face and said 'all' had sinned. No exceptions.

Then contradict Paul to say one didn't.

 

[kcnalp]

You are forced to admit Paul didn't know Mary.

Paul knew Jesus personally. What is your religion? Do you even know?

 

[brian100]

I'm a Marian Catholic.

Paul didn't know his Mother.

 

[kcnalp]

I'm a Marian Catholic.

This is a Christian forum.

 

[brian100]

Yeah? Do you know what a Marian Catholic is?

We are Jesus and Mary believers.

I destroyed your all had sinned scripture... u tried to say all did, but wait Jesus didn't. Contradicting this Paul

 

[kcnalp]

Yeah? Do you know what a Marian Catholic is?

We are Jesus and Mary believers.

Muslims believe in Jesus, but not Jesus of the Bible. They also attack the Christian Bible like you.

 

[brian100]

No..I'm from the Constantine Religion... the Traditional CC.. Mary side. I see you guys as reformers.

Do not say all had sinned then exclude Jesus. Its obvious Mary was excluded. She was to give birth to Son of God.

 

[kcnalp]

Yeah? Do you know what a Marian Catholic is?

We are Jesus and Mary believers.

I destroyed your all had sinned scripture... u tried to say all did, but wait Jesus didn't. Contradicting this Paul

You're simply attacking the Christian Bible. ONLY the Blood of Jesus washes away sins.