Tong what did you want to say against this evidence?
What evidence? The shroud?
With regards the shroud, this is what I can say. And I hope you can answer my simple question this time.
Notice what is there in
John 20: 5-7, speaking of a head cloth, the "soudarion" and linen cloths or wrappings, the "othonion". Notice, there is a "soudarion" in the singular as to mean 1 piece. I think in other videos they somehow came up with an explanation to that. But here is where the issue lies, in the "othonion". In
John 20: 5-7, the "othonion" is in the plural as to mean at least two pieces, which we also see in
John 19:40 to be in the plural. And yet, the shroud of Turin, the supposed "othonion", is just 1 piece. What can you say about that? If the 1 piece shroud of Turin then would be the truth, that would make the scriptures err in speaking of a plural number of cloths used in the wrapping of the dead body of Jesus Christ.
Besides, the custom of wrapping at that time, could be known in scriptures, as in the wrapping of the dead Lazarus, which used a head cloth and of linen strips. What can you say about that?
If scriptures err, what would that imply of the Bible? If that was why there suddenly was a shroud of Turin appearing in the 1300's (which there was not from the time of Jesus' resurrection until after about 1300 years later), to show that the Bible is not trustworthy, it is obviously not the working of God. And that apparently is what you seem to be out here to do, that is, to destroy the credibility of the Bible. But I am not a bit worried, only sad for you.
The original has Mary to the R-side. And that is her immaculate heart! You would have to explain why its on that. You can't because it debunks your religious beliefs about Mary.
You can find that out for yourself. You are good at pictures. You are good in seeing and hearing all sorts of things. Concentrate and put a little common sense. It will not do any good if I will tell you, for you tend to not believe what I say. Perhaps if you will find it yourself, you will believe yourself and perhaps do you some good.
Tong
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