‘...because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot,...’

[VictoryinJesus]

It is a popular verse, ‘I will spue thee out of my mouth.’
Revelation 3:15-16 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. [16] So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Never have understood: is it better to be hot or cold? Confused over the ‘hot’

Deuteronomy 19:6 lest the avenger of blood pursue the manslayer, while his heart is hot, and overtake him, because the way is long, and strike him mortally; whereas he was not worthy of death, inasmuch as he didn't hate him in time past.

Job 6:15-18 My brethren have dealt deceitfully as a brook, and as the stream of brooks they pass away; [16] Which are blackish by reason of the ice, and wherein the snow is hid: [17] What time they wax warm, they vanish: when it is hot, they are consumed out of their place. [18] The paths of their way are turned aside; they go to nothing, and perish.

Psalm 39:1-11 I said, I will take heed to my ways, that I sin not with my tongue: I will keep my mouth with a bridle, while the wicked is before me. [2] I was dumb with silence, I held my peace, even from good; and my sorrow was stirred. [3] My heart was hot within me, while I was musing the fire burned: then spake I with my tongue, [4] Lord, make me to know mine end, and the measure of my days, what it is; that I may know how frail I am. [5] Behold, thou hast made my days as an handbreadth; and mine age is as nothing before thee: verily every man at his best state is altogether vanity. Selah. [6] Surely every man walketh in a vain shew: surely they are disquieted in vain: he heapeth up riches, and knoweth not who shall gather them. [7] And now, Lord, what wait I for? my hope is in thee. [8] Deliver me from all my transgressions: make me not the reproach of the foolish. [9] I was dumb, I opened not my mouth; because thou didst it. [10] Remove thy stroke away from me: I am consumed by the blow of thine hand. [11] When thou with rebukes dost correct man for iniquity, thou makest his beauty to consume away like a moth: surely every man is vanity. Selah.

Revelation 3:18-19 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. [19] As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Ezekiel 36:5
therefore thus says the Lord Yahweh: Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the nations, and against all Edom, that have appointed my land to themselves for a possession with the joy of all their heart, with despite of soul, to cast it out for a prey.

 

[Waiting on him]

It is a popular verse, ‘I will spue thee out of my mouth.’
Revelation 3:15-16 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. [16] So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Never have understood: is it better to be hot or cold? Confused over the ‘hot’

Deuteronomy 19:6 lest the avenger of blood pursue the manslayer, while his heart is hot, and overtake him, because the way is long, and strike him mortally; whereas he was not worthy of death, inasmuch as he didn't hate him in time past.

Job 6:15-18 My brethren have dealt deceitfully as a brook, and as the stream of brooks they pass away; [16] Which are blackish by reason of the ice, and wherein the snow is hid: [17] What time they wax warm, they vanish: when it is hot, they are consumed out of their place. [18] The paths of their way are turned aside; they go to nothing, and perish.

Psalm 39:1-11 I said, I will take heed to my ways, that I sin not with my tongue: I will keep my mouth with a bridle, while the wicked is before me. [2] I was dumb with silence, I held my peace, even from good; and my sorrow was stirred. [3] My heart was hot within me, while I was musing the fire burned: then spake I with my tongue, [4] Lord, make me to know mine end, and the measure of my days, what it is; that I may know how frail I am. [5] Behold, thou hast made my days as an handbreadth; and mine age is as nothing before thee: verily every man at his best state is altogether vanity. Selah. [6] Surely every man walketh in a vain shew: surely they are disquieted in vain: he heapeth up riches, and knoweth not who shall gather them. [7] And now, Lord, what wait I for? my hope is in thee. [8] Deliver me from all my transgressions: make me not the reproach of the foolish. [9] I was dumb, I opened not my mouth; because thou didst it. [10] Remove thy stroke away from me: I am consumed by the blow of thine hand. [11] When thou with rebukes dost correct man for iniquity, thou makest his beauty to consume away like a moth: surely every man is vanity. Selah.

Revelation 3:18-19 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. [19] As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Ezekiel 36:5
therefore thus says the Lord Yahweh: Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the nations, and against all Edom, that have appointed my land to themselves for a possession with the joy of all their heart, with despite of soul, to cast it out for a prey.

I believe it’s a question of malleability.

 

[farouk]

I believe it’s a question of malleability.

@Waiting on him Interesting that in Malachi, with its reference to the refiner's fire, seems to allude to such malleability as conducive to blessing....

While of course in Revelation Laodicean lukewarmness is far from a compliment...

 

[DPMartin]

It is a popular verse, ‘I will spue thee out of my mouth.’
Revelation 3:15-16 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. [16] So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Never have understood: is it better to be hot or cold? Confused over the ‘hot’

Deuteronomy 19:6 lest the avenger of blood pursue the manslayer, while his heart is hot, and overtake him, because the way is long, and strike him mortally; whereas he was not worthy of death, inasmuch as he didn't hate him in time past.

Job 6:15-18 My brethren have dealt deceitfully as a brook, and as the stream of brooks they pass away; [16] Which are blackish by reason of the ice, and wherein the snow is hid: [17] What time they wax warm, they vanish: when it is hot, they are consumed out of their place. [18] The paths of their way are turned aside; they go to nothing, and perish.

Psalm 39:1-11 I said, I will take heed to my ways, that I sin not with my tongue: I will keep my mouth with a bridle, while the wicked is before me. [2] I was dumb with silence, I held my peace, even from good; and my sorrow was stirred. [3] My heart was hot within me, while I was musing the fire burned: then spake I with my tongue, [4] Lord, make me to know mine end, and the measure of my days, what it is; that I may know how frail I am. [5] Behold, thou hast made my days as an handbreadth; and mine age is as nothing before thee: verily every man at his best state is altogether vanity. Selah. [6] Surely every man walketh in a vain shew: surely they are disquieted in vain: he heapeth up riches, and knoweth not who shall gather them. [7] And now, Lord, what wait I for? my hope is in thee. [8] Deliver me from all my transgressions: make me not the reproach of the foolish. [9] I was dumb, I opened not my mouth; because thou didst it. [10] Remove thy stroke away from me: I am consumed by the blow of thine hand. [11] When thou with rebukes dost correct man for iniquity, thou makest his beauty to consume away like a moth: surely every man is vanity. Selah.

Revelation 3:18-19 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. [19] As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Ezekiel 36:5
therefore thus says the Lord Yahweh: Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the nations, and against all Edom, that have appointed my land to themselves for a possession with the joy of all their heart, with despite of soul, to cast it out for a prey.

cold or hot is simply, genuinely for or against, otherwise one is looking only for what they themselves can get and appease both sides for it, loyal to none but self.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

cold or hot is simply, genuinely for or against, otherwise one is looking only for what they themselves can get and appease both sides for it, loyal to none but self.

Proverbs 25:25-26 As cold waters to a thirsty soul, so is good news from a far country. [26] A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring.

What is ‘a cup of cold water’? Matthew 10:42 And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.

 

[farouk]

Proverbs 25:25-26 As cold waters to a thirsty soul, so is good news from a far country. [26] A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring.

What is ‘a cup of cold water’? Matthew 10:42 And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.

@VictoryinJesus In the same vein, I love Isaiah 25.4: "For thou hast been a strength to the poor, a strength to the needy in his distress, a refuge from the storm, a shadow from the heat, when the blast of the terrible ones is as a storm against the wall."

 

[101G]

addressing the OP, and @Waiting on him glad to hear from you two.... (smile).

great topic, and good response, malleability, especially when it comes to the WORD of God. Revelation 3:15 "I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot."
Revelation 3:16 "So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."

WORKS come from "belief", scripture, John 6:28 "Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?"John 6:29 "Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."
so we know now that the he "knows their Work, or what they are believing, or not believing. as some christian even today straddle the fence, on certian doctoral beliefs. neither hot, believing the word of God, or cold, not beleiving the word of God.

so let us make it clear as to what the HOT and COLD means. the Lord Jesus, the Spirit in flesh, once before gave this warning concering the end times. listen, scripture, Matthew 24:20 "But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:" this reveals what he was speaking of in Revelation 3:15. lets break it down by the teaching of the Holy Spirit. question, what happens in winter? answer, things from being "COLD" get hard, and "STIFF"... correct. now let bring this over into the Spiritual world for understanding. the things in the spiritual world for us as stated in our "Works", or belief in that we can get a "HARD" heart, or be "stiffnecked" in unbelief. see that's what being Cold can lead to, a hard heart, and a stiffneck in unbelief. as Waiting on him said, sometimes the Lord have to chisel or hammer away at some stony, "hard" hearts, and break the dross around those proud stiffnecks of some christians.

as for lukewarm, or stradding the fence, meaning, "double minded", scripture, James 1:5 "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him."James 1:6 "But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed."James 1:7 "For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord."James 1:8 "A double minded man is unstable in all his ways."James 1:9 "Let the brother of low degree rejoice in that he is exalted:"James 1:10 "But the rich, in that he is made low: because as the flower of the grass he shall pass away."James 1:11 "For the sun is no sooner risen with a burning heat, but it withereth the grass, and the flower thereof falleth, and the grace of the fashion of it perisheth: so also shall the rich man fade away in his ways."James 1:12 "Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him."

verse 12 in blue give us the result of your work/belief, "Blessed is the man that endureth temptation". why, "for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him."

a christian must know what they believe and stand FIRM in the Word of God, not wavering.

Hope that helped.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[Nancy]

cold or hot is simply, genuinely for or against, otherwise one is looking only for what they themselves can get and appease both sides for it, loyal to none but self.

Agreed. Double minded...sitting on the fence, so to speak. Therefore, serving their selves only..."...a form of Godliness...denying the power thereof..."

 

[DPMartin]

Agreed. Double minded...sitting on the fence, so to speak. Therefore, serving their selves only..."...a form of Godliness...denying the power thereof..."

well even if you look at it from the dark side of the fence. the devil will not deny there's a God, but he will deceive you to deny there's a God or deny God what is His, and that you are the only god to serve. hence the "look out for number one" philosophy.

making it, thou art thy own judge of what is good and evil, like gods, which is what the serpent accomplished in the garden.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

as for lukewarm, or stradding the fence, meaning, "double minded", scripture, James 1:5 "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him."James 1:6 "But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed."James 1:7 "For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord."James 1:8 "A double minded man is unstable in all his ways."James 1:9 "Let the brother of low degree rejoice in that he is exalted:"James 1:10 "But the rich, in that he is made low: because as the flower of the grass he shall pass away."James 1:11 "For the sun is no sooner risen with a burning heat, but it withereth the grass, and the flower thereof falleth, and the grace of the fashion of it perisheth: so also shall the rich man fade away in his ways."James 1:12 "Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him."

speaking of divided. Maybe you can help with 1 Corinthians 7:31-35 And they that use this world, as not abusing it : for the fashion of this world passeth away. [32] But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord: [33] But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife. [34] There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband. [35] And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.

When studying the above verses ‘divided interest’ is that not the same as double minded ...Mark 4:19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord.
But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife
How can you have the cares of the world(lukewarm?) yet ‘that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.’ ?

 

[marks]

speaking of divided. Maybe you can help with 1 Corinthians 7:31-35 And they that use this world, as not abusing it : for the fashion of this world passeth away. [32] But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord: [33] But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife. [34] There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband. [35] And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.

When studying the above verses ‘divided interest’ is that not the same as double minded ...Mark 4:19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord.
But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife
How can you have the cares of the world(lukewarm?) yet ‘that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.’ ?

Hi ViJ,

I think the idea here is the direction of your attention. I can be choked by my desires for security and entertainments and all that, or I can simply have more on my plate because I'm caring for my wife as whatever else God wants for my life.

Although I do happen to think that part of my life work is to care for the needs of my wife.

Much love!

 

[farouk]

speaking of divided. Maybe you can help with 1 Corinthians 7:31-35 And they that use this world, as not abusing it : for the fashion of this world passeth away. [32] But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord: [33] But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife. [34] There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband. [35] And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.

When studying the above verses ‘divided interest’ is that not the same as double minded ...Mark 4:19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord.
But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife
How can you have the cares of the world(lukewarm?) yet ‘that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.’ ?

@VictoryinJesus This is why also in the nature of things if a husband and wife are indeed united in the Lord they can together be a great blessing, in testimony to others, and indeed to one another.

 

[101G]

speaking of divided. Maybe you can help with 1 Corinthians 7:31-35 And they that use this world, as not abusing it : for the fashion of this world passeth away. [32] But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord: [33] But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife. [34] There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband. [35] And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.

When studying the above verses ‘divided interest’ is that not the same as double minded ...Mark 4:19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord.
But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife
How can you have the cares of the world(lukewarm?) yet ‘that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.’ ?

I will address your final part, "How can you have the cares of the world(lukewarm?) yet ‘that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.’ ?"
first of all, "cares of the world do not make you lukewarm". but here is the answer to your question. it's called priority, Scripture, Matthew 6:31 "Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?" ... WHY?
Matthew 6:32 "(For after all these things do the Gentiles seek) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things." (and he will supply all your needs). now the very next verse,
Matthew 6:33 "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." BINGO, do that answer your question?

see, this is where most Christian miss the boat in enjoying this world. God made it for us, but the enjoyment of it is in knowing your priorities.
there is nothing wrong in eating certain foods, as long as you do it in A. thankgiving, and B. in FAITH. and see FAITH is no fool, nor blind. if one have high blood pressure, why are you eating pork ... EVERY DAY? understand what the Holy Ghost said by his apostle Paul. 1 Corinthians 6:12 "All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any."

as with Money, don't let money rule you, but you, the money. understand we are stewards in a stewardship of the Lord. we are to manage "HIS" property until he returns. yes, even our bodies. a christian can drink alcohol, but not to the point of getting drunk. and not in front of a brother or sister who may be weak.

so Matthew 6:33 is clear, "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.". do did you notice what it did not say? "seek ONLY", but "seek FIRST". that's the priority that comes with responsibility

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[VictoryinJesus]

I will address your final part, "How can you have the cares of the world(lukewarm?) yet ‘that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.’ ?"
first of all, "cares of the world do not make you lukewarm". but here is the answer to your question. it's called priority, Scripture, Matthew 6:31 "Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?" ... WHY?
Matthew 6:32 "(For after all these things do the Gentiles seek) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things." (and he will supply all your needs). now the very next verse,
Matthew 6:33 "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." BINGO, do that answer your question?

see, this is where most Christian miss the boat in enjoying this world. God made it for us, but the enjoyment of it is in knowing your priorities.
there is nothing wrong in eating certain foods, as long as you do it in A. thankgiving, and B. in FAITH. and see FAITH is no fool, nor blind. if one have high blood pressure, why are you eating pork ... EVERY DAY? understand what the Holy Ghost said by his apostle Paul. 1 Corinthians 6:12 "All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any."

as with Money, don't let money rule you, but you, the money. understand we are stewards in a stewardship of the Lord. we are to manage "HIS" property until he returns. yes, even our bodies. a christian can drink alcohol, but not to the point of getting drunk. and not in front of a brother or sister who may be weak.

so Matthew 6:33 is clear, "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.". do did you notice what it did not say? "seek ONLY", but "seek FIRST". that's the priority that comes with responsibility

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

You said: first of all, "cares of the world do not make you lukewarm" ...that was the reason for the question mark as I wasn’t sure if that was what you were saying here:

as for lukewarm, or stradding the fence, meaning, "double minded"

there is nothing wrong in eating certain foods, as long as you do it in A. thankgiving, and B. in FAITH. and see FAITH is no fool, nor blind. if one have high blood pressure, why are you eating pork ... EVERY DAY?

good point.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

as with Money, don't let money rule you, but you, the money. understand we are stewards in a stewardship of the Lord. we are to manage "HIS" property until he returns. yes, even our bodies. a christian can drink alcohol, but not to the point of getting drunk. and not in front of a brother or sister who may be weak.

For the sake of conversation. (Only an opinion) We speak of money and all these things as being temporary and how we are to use those things which are temporary as ‘good stewards’. that verse confuses me in the many translations) 1 Corinthians 7:31 Lexicon: and those who use the world, as though they did not make full use of it; for the form of this world is passing away.
‘Use it’ yet the above ‘and those who buy, as though they did not possess (as Paul said as having nothing, yet possessing all things) and those who use the world, as though they did not make full use of it. —confuses at ‘as though they did not make full use of it.

for the form of this world is passing away. You hear a lot of using the money, using the drink but not getting drunk, using lots of things and yes as good stewards. ‘for the form of this world is passing away’ and Seeing then these things are temporal and to ‘be dissolved’ what manner of conversation ought we have? But in 1 Corinthians 7:31 ...for the fashion (form)of this world passeth away...and using these things as temporary Leads into the topic of marriage. Doesn’t He give us a ‘form’ which is passing away? Mark 12:24-25 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God? [25] For when they shall rise from the dead, (Ephesians 5:14) they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven. (Also, Luke 20:34-35 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: [35] But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage

what is the difference in the children of ‘this world (or age)?’ And the children of that world (or age) to come? ‘this world (or age)‘ marry, and are given in marriage...

‘Doesn’t He give us a ‘form’ which is passing away?’ 2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Consider the incorruptible seed: 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

With ‘left no seed’ Mark 12:20-25 Now there were seven brethren: and the first took a wife, and dying left no seed. [21] And the second took her, and died, neither left he any seed: and the third likewise. [22] And the seven had her, and left no seed: last of all the woman died also. [23] In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife. [24] And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God? [25] For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Realize all that is way off topic but it doesn’t look like the thread is going any further. Maybe just thinking out loud...

 

[101G]

For the sake of conversation. (Only an opinion) We speak of money and all these things as being temporary and how we are to use those things which are temporary as ‘good stewards’.

first thanks for the reply, second, Ecclesiastes 10:19 "A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things."
there is nothing wrong with being rich, it's what you do with it, remember it's not .. "YOUR" money, you're steward. so read that Ecclesiastes 10:19. and yes God will make a way.

1 Corinthians 7:31 "And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away."
1 Timothy 6:17 "Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;"1 Timothy 6:18 "That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;"1 Timothy 6:19 "Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life." BINGO.

see VJ we all must give an account of what we did or did not do in this world.

Consider the incorruptible seed: 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

not willingly, or pratice sin sin on a regular basis. remember we're GROWING.

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Realize all that is way off topic but it doesn’t look like the thread is going any further. Maybe just thinking out loud...

no problem, it's your topic. now the answer, Galatians 5:16 "This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh."
Galatians 5:17 "For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would."
Galatians 5:18 "But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law."

BINGO, there is the christian answer, we're at war within our ownselves. and note the battle is not our, but the Lord's.

be about your fathers business.

hoped that helped.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[VictoryinJesus]

first thanks for the reply, second, Ecclesiastes 10:19 "A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things."
there is nothing wrong with being rich, it's what you do with it, remember it's not .. "YOUR" money, you're steward. so read that Ecclesiastes 10:19. and yes God will make a way.

1 Corinthians 7:31 "And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away."
1 Timothy 6:17 "Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;"1 Timothy 6:18 "That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;"1 Timothy 6:19 "Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life." BINGO.

see VJ we all must give an account of what we did or did not do in this world.

not willingly, or pratice sin sin on a regular basis. remember we're GROWING.

no problem, it's your topic. now the answer, Galatians 5:16 "This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh."
Galatians 5:17 "For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would."
Galatians 5:18 "But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law."

BINGO, there is the christian answer, we're at war within our ownselves. and note the battle is not our, but the Lord's.

be about your fathers business.

hoped that helped.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

signing off for the night. Will read more closely in the morning. Wadr I’m not against money. I’ve just never had it. As a wife and homemaker for so many years...still today, the fact that I’ve never earned money but instead my husband has kept us has haunted me. Worth or value...the lines get blurred. We talk all the time now about my going to work. It is difficult. Fifty. No experience. No idea what to do. Not even sure I know who I am or what I would be suited for, especially in today’s world.

‘be about your fathers business’ Romans 12:11 Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;


Tecarta Bible

 

[JohnDB]

The hot water was mineral springs across a deep valley. These mineral springs were known for their medicinal value and people travelled from all over to bathe in them.

The cold water was the river down at the bottom of the steep valley that watered crops farther down the valley from laodicea.

Laodicea itself had nasty water...it was piped from some mineral springs on its own side of the valley...they were so full of minerals and lukewarm... you couldn't drink much or else you would want to vomit.

Hot= healing
Cold = nourishing
Lukewarm= contrived

Have a nice day and Bless your hearts.

 

[101G]

signing off for the night. Will read more closely in the morning. Wadr I’m not against money. I’ve just never had it. As a wife and homemaker for so many years...still today, the fact that I’ve never earned money but instead my husband has kept us has haunted me. Worth or value...the lines get blurred. We talk all the time now about my going to work. It is difficult. Fifty. No experience. No idea what to do. Not even sure I know who I am or what I would be suited for, especially in today’s world.

‘be about your fathers business’ Romans 12:11 Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;


Tecarta Bible

GINOLJC, to all.
first thanks for the reply, second, well you hit it on the head, "be about your fathers business". listen again, Matthew 6:31 "Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?"
Matthew 6:32 "(For after all these things do the Gentiles seek for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things."
Matthew 6:33 "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." BINGO. (as you say, lets talk a bit. think about what God just said. he will supply all your needs. ok, sit down at a table with pen and paper in hand and try to count up your blessing in just one day. now another thing, look around, some got it worest than you. so thank God for what you Got, and ask him for anything according to his will. remember ye have not because ye ask not. now is there a certian way to ask? yes... in Faith, be honest with a. yourself, and b. with God. and watch the result).
Matthew 6:34 "Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof."

as the scriptures states, Philippians 4:10 "But I rejoiced in the Lord greatly, that now at the last your care of me hath flourished again; wherein ye were also careful, but ye lacked opportunity."Philippians 4:11 "Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content."Philippians 4:12 "I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: every where and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need."Philippians 4:13 "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me."

so as you said, "be about your Father's business", but ask him to do something new in your life while you're doing his business... (smile).. ok.

you both be blessed.

ps,also remember, seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. but he didn't say seek ye "ONLY" the Kingdom and his righteousness, but the priority is on him... ok.


PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[JohnDB]

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