Recent content by Copperhead

Ok, so then I would guess you think the redeemed in Messiah are now Israel. So then please enlighten us, when did the redeemed that make up the bride of Christ reject Him so that He returned to His place? Hosea 5:14-15 (NKJV) For I will be like a lion to Ephraim, And like a young lion to the...

It is not within my pay grade to worry about where both houses are now, but I know where they will be towards the end. They were both in the Land when Yeshua was here the first time to cause Him to return to His place. And they will both have to be in the Land at the end to acknowledge...

All the nations will be gathered and judged on how they treated Jacob/Israel. Just as now, Jerusalem is a stumbling stone to all nations as prophesied. The operative words are ALL NATIONS. And the scripture is specific that it is all nations other than literal Jacob/Israel. So while it is...

If you were agreeing, my bad, I read it wrong. Please forgive. I am dumber than I look! :)

Since redemption is of grace, and the unique groups of the redeemed and Israel are in view in the post you responded to, So then, are you suggesting redemption is a reward? Not according to scripture... Romans 4:4 (NKJV) Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt...

Maturity has nothing to do with it. One is either redeemed or they are not. This isn't some sort of tier system and some idea of climbing a ladder to heaven. And every translation that typically uses a word for word translation style as opposed to paraphrase and equivalence style agrees...

What Christian "nations" would that be? I know of none. Some were founded on Christian principles, for sure. But I know of no nation that has it in their charter that they are a Christian nation to the exclusivity of other religions, recognizing Christianity as the official religious faith...

True to some extent, but many think wrongly that because a gentile believes and has that changed heart that it makes him/her a 'true' Jew. They are grafted in as a wild olive branch, but they are not a natural olive branch. Only a natural olive branch (a Jew) can be a 'true' Jew as a result...

Oh boy. That is rich, Episkopos. What is the truth of the Gospel? What specifically is the Gospel? That is the base line. You seem to be confusing Ecclesiology, Israelology, Soteriology, etc all into a goulash of theology. And I am a Messianic in the sense that I am a gentile who has...

Nope. I do not buy into Supersessionism, Two House theology, and other such ideas.

Well, since the promise of the land to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob has never been fully realized in history, if the Lord is true to His Word, then Israel has to be restored and that would include all the land promised to Abraham. Folks today argue about the West Bank, but that is regarding the...

True, but the operative words are "in Christ". Given that sin will still be present in then future kingdom on earth, that even death would still be present, and that there will be a final rebellion against Messiah as told in Revelation 20 and Psalms 2, it is pretty evident that not all in the...

There is indeed one bride, those who are in Christ. But Israel is the wife of Yahweh and will be restored. The Prophets write about that. You are mixing things. And regarding being restored, it is as an earthly kingdom restoration. The Bride of Messiah will rule with Messiah, but they do...

I think we are talking past each other and not speaking of the same thing. Of course Messiah will be over Israel in the authority of David the king as per the Davidic Covenant in 2 Samuel 7 and confirmed to Mary by Gabriel. That will happen when Messiah returns and restores the kingdom of...

Not sure I have read of anyone putting Israel over Christ here. Might have missed it. Of course, Israel is blinded in this present time, and the rabbis and such will spew a lot of nonsense. Paul made a point to say so. But likewise, all the prophets and Paul stated there would be a...