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  1. Jimmy Engle

    Free Will

    SaberTruth, The fall of Adam resulted in the fallen world and the death of men. To say that Psalms is poetic and that David didn't mean what he said in Psalm 51:5 must be very convenient for you. Romans 5:12-14.........speaking of verse 14 in particular, even without the law, death was...
  2. Jimmy Engle

    Free Will

    Yea I agree. I must not be understanding what you are trying to say and based on your response you are not understanding what I am trying to say. It happens. I agree with you about the OT and NT. However, to say that we can not form doctrines from the poetic parts of the OT is an odd claim to...
  3. Jimmy Engle

    Free Will

    Hey SaberTruth, I don't see any problem with quoting from the OT, it's quoted plenty of times throughout the NT and to discredit the OT is doing injustice to what God has to say in regard to any one subject. When discussing man's sinful nature for example, there are plenty of verses in the NT...
  4. Jimmy Engle

    Free Will

    It seems you are saying an awful lot about me to make yourself look better and claim that I am the one boasting. I am not trying to personalize this debate like you are...that is why I used scripture where you just keep spouting off opinions and inferences gleaned from scripture instead of going...
  5. Jimmy Engle

    Free Will

    I don't see how this is relevant to the discussion at hand. You are not even posting scripture to support your claims...your just stating opinions based on inferences drawn from the bible........ I already gave you scripture that answered your question and for the answer to why we were...
  6. Jimmy Engle

    Free Will

    It isn't what I am saying, it's what the bible is saying... Psalm 14:1-3 - The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they have committed abominable deeds; There is no one who does good. The Lord has looked down from heaven upon the sons of men to see if there are nay...
  7. Jimmy Engle

    Free Will

    Anastacia In response to the verses I posted found in John, I understand what you are saying and I can see your logic behind that. But the problem I see is that you are basing your belief off the fact that people seek after God, but we are told repeatedly throughout scripture that no one seeks...
  8. Jimmy Engle

    Free Will

    Actually I didn't copy and paste those verses I actually took an hour or so typing them all down....just so you don't think I am just taking the work of another which I could have easily have done. For your question why does God chose some over others...there is an answer and it's hard to deal...
  9. Jimmy Engle

    Free Will

    Okay we will forget about Revelation 3:20 and we won't discuss Hebrews 4. Now getting back to the subject at hand in regard to free will...there is an important question that must be answered. Can man chose God through his own strenght or will or does man need God to first enable that person to...
  10. Jimmy Engle

    Free Will

    I was just pointing out that the context of that verse was talking about a church not an individual. So many evangelists today use that verse and say if you have to pray to receive Jesus in their hearts. So they get the people to pray a prayer and then they ask them if they were sincere. If they...
  11. Jimmy Engle

    Free Will

    DiDasKaLos - Revelation 3:20 is talking about a church...not an individual believer. Rather than allowing for the common interpretation of Christ's knocking on a person's heart, the context demands that Christ was seeking to enter this church that bore His name but lacked a single true believer...
  12. Jimmy Engle

    Free Will

    If you cannot understand what I mean then that is fine. I'm trying my best to explain this. The simple fact is that we all have free will. We can chose if we want to kill someone or if we want to help someone. We can chose to steal money or donate money. We can chose to do many things which can...
  13. Jimmy Engle

    Free Will

    First of all...where did I say I was a Calvinist? I never made any such claims. Second of all, from your responses I can see that you don't even understand fully what Calvinist's believe...sounds like you guys are referring to hyper Calvinism which is totally different. SaberTuth - There is no...
  14. Jimmy Engle

    Free Will

    The context of my response was not referring to the choice of heaven or hell but the choice of good vs bad. We cannot chose God in our unconverted state. However, while we are still in Adam, we can chose to do good. But the problem is that because our nature is evil or sinful...whatever you want...
  15. Jimmy Engle

    Free Will

    Sure we have free will but as I already have stated, we do not have good will. Since the fall, all are born in a sinful state that results in a corrupt nature. We are bad trees and we produce bad fruit. Although we have the ability to chose to do things that are good...they are but filthy rags...