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    Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

    You're not understanding me at all!! When I say we need to have "the fear of the Lord" you hear fearful. Please show me where I said we need to be fearful. Please quote me. I want to see exactly where I said that. Please don't put words in my mouth and then jump to false conclusions based on...
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    Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

    "WHEN" being the catch word. Until then.....
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    Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

    But just because your are forgiven doesn't mean you are delivered from the power of sin. To say forgiveness of sin IS NOT THE SAME AS SAYING deliverance of sin. It doesn't MEAN the same thing. Forgiveness to the captives is not the same as deliverance to the captives. As a captive, which would...
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    Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

    Yeah, the soul that sins, it shall die.
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    Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

    P.S. @ProDeo Why in Luke 4:18 is "aphesis" translated as "deliverance" and "liberty" (it's used twice in that verse)??? ...and then, in most other places it's translated as forgiveness or remission (remission is closer in meaning because in remission the power is taken away, but freedom is...
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    Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

    It has to agree with Isaiah 61:4, which is where Luke 4:18 is quoted from and the word used in Luke 4:18 is "aphesis". The meaning of "forgiveness" does not capture the meaning of "deliverance/liberty". ...because a prisoner can be forgiven but he's still in jail!! Can you understand what I'm...
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    Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

    No, I don't accept that. Redemption doesn't go far enough. Try again.
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    Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

    I just found this verse: Rev. 19:5 "And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great." That's why I said and still say "fear of the Lord" not just fear....go back and check what I said! Now, do your own in depth study...
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    Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

    Good day ProDeo!! Sorry Brother, it's actually "for the aphesis (deliverance) of sins." Try again! Blessings !
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    Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

    His sacrifice was needed to be able to "cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness." That's MORE than what forgiveness is.
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    Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

    Check the concordance, again it's "aphesis" ...deliverance of sins. There are no penalties taken here unless you change the meaning of the original words. And that penalty is not a 2 minute sitting out penalty (I'm Canadian so I talk hockey, not football), but a "curses will be added to you"...
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    Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

    Sorry, that doesn't work with Luke 4:18. "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance (aphesis) to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty...
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    Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

    Amen!!! And to add, I woke up with this verse: 1 John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." There is so much more than forgiveness, He cleanses us from all unrighteousness. That's why He came, so we could have...
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    Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

    I'm not trying to change any meanings, I want to understand scripture in spirit and truth. I addressed this already, the first time you posted it....but you avoided my question. Now please answer my question. (I bet you thought you could avoid it.) ;) Since (2 Tim 3:16) "All scripture is...
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    Sinless Perfection. Why do so many teach against what Jesus taught?

    Show me the scripture where Jesus says He came so He could forgive. I admit that He does forgive, but I don't believe He needed to die in order to forgive since He forgave sins before He died. He said to a man that He healed of palsy, "your sins are forgiven you", (Luke 5) notice that Jesus had...