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  1. Pavel Mosko

    A Textual Challenge to the “Mary and Joseph Had Later Relations” Position

    As far as the Reformers go, I think their belief was almost entirely based on some kind of study of Church history especially Arianism, Nicene Creed, and Nestorius. It is like the saying "being on the right side of history". In a lot of ways, I don't think the Reformers really got the...
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    Mary the Queen of Heaven?

    lol I think you missed a lot of my point. 1) Namely quibbling over Roman Catholic doctrine, while Protestants can act almost exactly the same way via their own private belief in the will of God via reading this or that passage of the Bible. The former poster basically was dogmatizing his...
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    Mary the Queen of Heaven?

    Exactly. Well maybe not, if were being picky. Being Truth Incarnate is not the same thing as exorcising a Charism.
  4. Pavel Mosko

    Mary the Queen of Heaven?

    Why does "Bible Time" sound like a Fundamentalist Protestant doing his own defacto version of the Assuming the Charism of Infallibility, where he assumes his selective interpretation of a popular translation of scripture is the same thing as channeling the mind of God? Your comment reminds me...
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    Mary the Queen of Heaven?

    lol yes that is a good one and it does remind me of the double standard of things. Like people complaining about quoting the Church Fathers when their own theology is heavily based on the interpretation of a Magisterial Reformer. On a different yet similar note on the Apologetics front I...
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    Mary the Queen of Heaven?

    YES! This is really my favorite Biblical message, and technically if you really analyze it there is another thing that is also going on. The strict treatment of the dead in Protestantism actually is defacto creating two Churches, Basically two bodies because they are treated as being...
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    Mary the Queen of Heaven?

    lol it is funny seeing someone else bring up Alexander Hislop. I agree with you, but I got some leftover Lutheran sympathies when it comes to seeing really ostentatious displays like giant statues of Mary 20+ Feet tall. I have learned some moderate reverence for the saints based on Early...
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    Mary the Queen of Heaven?

    Wow good presentation Bread!.
  9. Pavel Mosko

    A Textual Challenge to the “Mary and Joseph Had Later Relations” Position

    Still reading your thread with great interest @Moonwood. I believe there are hints there in the depiction of events in some of the Gospels on the traditional orthodox position of Mary compared to the popular modern Helvidian position of most Evangelicals, Fundamentalists etc. I guess I have...
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    A Textual Challenge to the “Mary and Joseph Had Later Relations” Position

    lol that is ridiculous, the fact you would make this an article of Faith, especially when sex in the Bible was generally a private thing that we would have proof texts on their private relations. There is a name for this type of thinking "the Verbatim Fallacy". Considering this a ridiculous...
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    A Textual Challenge to the “Mary and Joseph Had Later Relations” Position

    Yes, I do not believe in the Helvidian position. Really nobody should that has any background in the Jewish Cultural context of the Bible, especially the Mitzot. or the concept of the sacred, any Godfearing Jew would be afraid to consummate the marriage literally speaking if you actually...
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    A Textual Challenge to the “Mary and Joseph Had Later Relations” Position

    This is an interesting presentation and a little different than what I'm used to. I sort of made a similar kind of argument to an Evangelical woman on a web site in the early 2000s. It always stuck out for me the title "Virgin Mary". It is really funny for people to believe the Helvidian...
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    A Textual Challenge to the “Mary and Joseph Had Later Relations” Position

    @Moonwood on many issues I actually like to point to the notion of "Biblical Holiness", especially when dealing with non-Sacramental Christians. The entire concept of Holiness used in the New Testament comes from the Tabernacle and Temple worship. It literally comes from objects and later...
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    A Textual Challenge to the “Mary and Joseph Had Later Relations” Position

    @Moonwood here is a little tid bit. In talking about the Bible and Biblical interpretation I often cite "the Seven Rules of Hillel" and this actually comes from dealing with a Calvinist citing them almost a quarter of a century ago, explicitly from a Protestant Seminary text book, "The...