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    Christians are in Rebellion against God for not following Torah

    The way to rebel against the God who has the character traits that the Torah was given in order to teach us how to embody is by refusing to obey the Torah. No one who is a doer of the character traits that the Torah was given in order to teach us how to embody as rejected the Messiah...
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    Christians are in Rebellion against God for not following Torah

    God is trustworthy, therefore His instructions are also trustworthy (Psalm 19:7), so the Torah is not more or less trustworthy than the giver of the Torah. Indeed, everything in the Torah was commanded in order to teach us how to follow Christ and Christ set a perfect example for us to follow...
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    Christians are in Rebellion against God for not following Torah

    I would think that anyone who thinks that the following verses accurately describe the Torah would voluntarily jump at the opportunity to get to experience embodying it: Psalm 19:7-11 7 The law of the Lord is perfect, reviving the soul; the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the...
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    Christians are in Rebellion against God for not following Torah

    Most Christians are opposed to following Christ's example of walking in obedience to the Torah. Are you? Jesus and the Apostles quoted from the OT hundreds of times in order to support what they were saying, so it does not work for someone to take the position that we should only follow what...
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    Christians are in Rebellion against God for not following Torah

    The Bible frequently uses the same terms to describe the character of God as it does to describe the character of the Torah, such as with it being holy, righteous, and good (Romans 7:12), or with justice, mercy, and faithfulness being weightier matters of the Torah (Matthew 23:23), and it could...
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    Christians are in Rebellion against God for not following Torah

    The Torah is God's Word and Jesus is God's Word made flesh, so everything that is true about Jesus is also true about the Torah insofar as he is the embodiment of it. The Torah is the way (1 Kings 2:1-3), the truth (Psalm 119:142), and the life (Deuteronomy 32:46-47), and the way to know the...
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    Christians are in Rebellion against God for not following Torah

    The Torah is truth (Psalm 119:!42) Christ said that man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that comes from the mouth of God (Matthew 4:4) Christ also set a sinless example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to the Torah and we are told to follow his example (1 Peter...
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    Christians are in Rebellion against God for not following Torah

    It is far preferable to be judged by the Torah than to perish. In Romans 2:13-14, only the doers of the Torah will be justified and Gentiles will by nature be doers of the Torah. The issue of the way to become righteous is different than what describes the behavior of the righteous. The only...
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    Christians are in Rebellion against God for not following Torah

    According to Galatians 5:14, anyone who has loved their neighbor has fulfilled the entire law, so it refers to something that countless people have done and should continue to do in perpetuity, not to something unique that only Christ could do. The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the...
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    Christians are in Rebellion against God for not following Torah

    Where? Do you believe in the existence of the God who has the character traits that the Law of Moses was given in order to teach us how to embody? While it is true that the New Covenant is not like the covenant that God made with their fathers, the New Covenant involves God putting the Torah...
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    Christians are in Rebellion against God for not following Torah

    Someone can reject a misrepresentation of Jesus without rejecting the actual Jesus. For example, Jews have been persecuted in the name of Jesus over the course of the past two thousand years, so there is nothing wrong with Jews rejecting that Jesus. In Deuteronomy 13, the way that God...
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    Christians are in Rebellion against God for not following Torah

    According to Deuteronomy 27-30, the way to be blessed is by relying on the Book of the Law while the way to be cursed is by not relying it, which is why everyone who relies on works of the law instead of the Book of the Law comes under that curse.
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    Christians are in Rebellion against God for not following Torah

    Hello, I was speaking in regard to the Torah, not just the Noahide laws. Whether or not Jesus can be worshiped in a way that is idolatrous and/or non-idolatrous is an important issue, but the flaw is not with God's command against committing idolatry. Jews parade a Torah scroll around the room...
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    Christians are in Rebellion against God for not following Torah

    I have not suggested that Gentiles should come under the Mosaic Covenant, but rather I have been speaking about the way to live under the New Covenant, which is also the way that we should live regardless of which covenant we are under. God's character traits are eternal, so everything that...