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Consider here the concern of both Abraham and God for Ishmael:

"And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking.
Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac.
And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son.
And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.
And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed.
And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba.
And the water was spent in the bottle, and she cast the child under one of the shrubs.
And she went, and sat her down over against him a good way off, as it were a bowshot: for she said, Let me not see the death of the child. And she sat over against him, and lift up her voice, and wept.
And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is.
Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I will make him a great nation." Gen 21:9-18



Genesis 16:7-16 Now the Angel of the LORD found her by a spring of water in the wilderness, by the spring on the way to Shur.
And He said, "Hagar, Sarai's maid, where have you come from, and where are you going?" She said, "I am fleeing from the presence of my mistress Sarai."
The Angel of the LORD said to her, "Return to your mistress, and submit yourself under her hand."
Then the Angel of the LORD said to her, "I will multiply your descendants exceedingly, so that they shall not be counted for multitude."
Genesis 16: 11 And the Angel of the LORD said to her: "Behold, you are with child, And you shall bear a son. You shall call his name Ishmael, Because the LORD has heard your affliction.
Genesis 16: 12 He shall be a wild man; His hand shall be against every man And every man's hand against him. And he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren."
Then she called the name of the LORD who spoke to her, You-Are-the-God-Who-Sees; for she said, "Have I also here seen Him who sees me?"
Therefore, the well was called Beer Lahai Roi; observe, it is between Kadesh and Bered.
Genesis 16: 15 So Hagar bore Abram a son; and Abram named his son, whom Hagar bore, Ishmael.
Genesis 16: 16 Abram was eighty-sixed years old when Hagar bore Ishmael to Abram.


Genesis 17:19-21 (NKJV)Then God said: "No, Sarah your wife shall bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac; I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his descendants after him.
And as for Ishmael, I have heard you. Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly. He shall beget twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation.
But My covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah shall bear to you at this set time next year."

The problem is that God gave him a promise, but being of old age and Sarah, Sarah, and Abram had no faith or lost faith, then came Ishmael, from the results of faith, like Esaul I hate but Jacob I love
 
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If JESUS himself told the jews who according to the flesh were abrahams children ,
that they were truly not spiritual children of abraham . Because they DID NOT have FAITH IN JESUS .
THEN what would it matter if i somehow were related to abraham by flesh .
WHEN the FLESH profits nothing .
Yall better watch out for these abrahamic convenant stuff .
Its the muslims themselves who claim to be of the lineage of abraham through ishmael .
But even if it were true , What would it profit any of them . THE FLESH profits nothing .
The only way any one , whether gentile or is by flesh of abraham , can be saved is , ALL FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST
as the ONLY SAVOIR , only means for salvation .
SO poof there goes the abraham accord and the lie that we all follow GOD .
FOR if even the jews who believed not IN JESUS CHRIST as MESSIAH LORD AND SAVOIR , were told
ye are children of satan . THAT goes for anyone else who denies and rejects JESUS as the ONLY LORD and ONLY SAVOIR .
IF YE LOVED GOD ye would have LOVED ME . YE are of your father the devil . JESUS TOLD
that to even the unbelieving jews . SO , let us stick to the original GOD ORDAINED and GOD GIVEN GOSPEL .
THE ONLY ONE THAT SAVES . COME YE TO CHRIST , REPENT and BELIEVE and ye shall be saved ,
but deny HIM and ye shall be damned .
 

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Hi all,
Upon signing up, I was asked to click if I was a 'Christian' or a 'Muslim.' While I practice Christianity more so that I do Islam (though I have been to Mosque from time to time), I decided to click 'Muslim,' as it is known that the many prophets of the religions of the God of Monotheism that came before visited Mohammed in his lifetime, in order to authenticate the establishment of yet another of God's many great religions. Why, then, would any Muslim deny the legitimacy of Christianity?
It is not necessary, however, for a Christian to accept Islam, seeing as though there is no mention of it in the scripture.
And yet, Christians and Muslims are constantly at war with one another. Why does God do this to His peoples? Is war really that much fun? Members of all monotheistic faiths should be working together to repel the advance of nihilism that has spread since World War II. Religion has been responsible for all the major advancements in history leading to the present.
Only through war can technology increase, and humanity can conquer the stars. But it must be done with love, the way God does it. Because without love, life is not worth having. The sole reason the Creator made the universe in the first place is on love's account.
It's time for the fundamentalists to own up to their scheming and deceitful ways, and take responsibility for the losses suffered by God and His churches from the outside.
Neville Goddard left 1972, not many knew him back then but they do now,
It is in you as a person that the nature of God is revealed, for a scriptural episode is not a record of an historical event, but a parabolic revelation of truth. To see Jesus or David as an historical character is to see truth tempered to the weakness of your soul. You must see what the characters represent, rather than the characters themselves. This is true for every story in scripture, for every episode will unfold within you.

The title of the 54th Psalm is translated as “David is hiding with us” in the King James Version, and “David is in hiding among us” in the Revised Standard Version; but the title should read: “David is in hiding within us,” for that is where he is, as well as every character in scripture. When I say, with Blake: “All that you behold, though it appears without it is within, in your Imagination of which this world of mortality is but a shadow,” I mean that literally, for the drama of life unfolds from within.

The characters Jesus, David, Abraham, and Moses are but personifications of eternal states, which you individually will encounter as you move towards the ultimate awakening of being God himself. In his poem, “Saul” Robert Browning tells the story recorded in the 16th chapter of the Book of First Samuel, of how David cured Saul of the evil spirits which the Lord had sent upon him.
 

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That has some terrifying things in it . I see new age . Did anyone read the last paragraph .
It says , which you will Encounter as you move towards the ultimate Awakening of BEING WHO , OF BEING GOD HIMSELF .
Ya do realize this is exactly what Got satan kicked out of heaven . I SHALL BE AS GOD .
Frightning things are being taught . Let no lamb receive such a thing .
 

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Malo,

Upon signing up, I was asked to click if I was a 'Christian' or a 'Muslim.'
Seems a pretty basic choice, since neither the one [Christianity, thus Christian] or the other [Islam, thus Muslim or Muslima] are the same, neither interchangeable, or able to be confused one with another. It's like choosing between light [Christianity] and darkness [Islam].

While I practice Christianity more so that I do Islam (though I have been to Mosque from time to time)
That statement shows you practice neither the one or the other, but your own mixture, which is neither, and thus fails of both. A person who is a Christian, cannot "practice" Islam, and a person who is a real Muslim, cannot "practice" Christianity. They are mutually exclusive by their very natures, tenets, theologies, beliefs, practices, &c.

Wise counsel from JEHOVAH's Spirit is:

Amo_3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?

Christianity and Islam cannot, and do not ever, "agree" at the basic fundamentals of their tenets/beliefs.

Christianity teaches that Jesus is the "Son of God [JEHOVAH]" (Mark 1:1, etc.)

Islam teaches that "Allah" has no (and never has had, nor ever will have) a "Son" (Surah 2 (Al Baqara (the Cow)), Ayah 116, see also Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol. 6, Hadith No. 9, etc.).

I decided to click 'Muslim,' as it is known that the many prophets of the religions of the God of Monotheism that came before visited Mohammed in his lifetime, in order to authenticate the establishment of yet another of God's many great religions.
This statement of yours is simply in error, according to authentic Islamic sources, for "Muhammad" never was "visited" by "many prophets of the religions of the God of Monotheism that came before", but instead had a "dream"/"vision" (the "mi-raj"; supposedly) wherein his conversations took place, as for instance where he supposedly spoke with "'Isa (Muslim Jesus)" in the second (of Seven) Heaven (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 429).

The only authentication of this 'event', was his own word.

Why, then, would any Muslim deny the legitimacy of Christianity?
Because it is central to Islam to deny Christianity as valid (this is different than denying the underlying texts of scripture, which Islam does anyway, but in a round about way), even in the first surah (Al Fatiha), ayah 7 (or 6 depending on translation into English), such as from al-Hilali-Khan: (1:7) The Way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace [4], not (the way) of those who earned You Anger [5] (such as the Jews), nor of those who went astray (such as the Christians). [1],[2],[3], and this to be prayed 'daily' by faithful muslims/muslimas. The commentary on such by Bukhari, Muslim, etc are even clearer.

It is not necessary, however, for a Christian to accept Islam, seeing as though there is no mention of it in the scripture.
A Christian cannot ever accept Islam, and be true and faithful to Christianity (thus Jesus Christ). It is an impossibility to accept both simultaneously. Islam is mentioned in scripture, but indirectly with all the other erroneous and false religions/theologies and false prophets.

And yet, Christians and Muslims are constantly at war with one another.
I would have to know what you mean by "war" here in order to truly comment/reply to the statement.

Why does God do this to His peoples?
When you say "God" and "His", who do you specifically refer to? As JEHOVAH is not "Allah", and vice-versa. This can be demonstrated on the simplest of levels.

Is war really that much fun?
What do you mean by "war"? Can you be specific?

Members of all monotheistic faiths should be working together to repel the advance of nihilism that has spread since World War II.
That is a very King of the North (Religious Humanism, Roman Catholicism, etal.) thing to say against the reverse of the same coin, being the King of the South (Secular Humanism). It is a very Jesuit construct, and the very same they attempted in France, Russia, etc.

No, a Christian cannot join 'forces' with a Muslim, as their religions are entirely differenet. Christianity is based in Truth. Islam is based in many lies, though it attempts to conscript Truth for its selfish purposes.

Religion has been responsible for all the major advancements in history leading to the present.
In a sense true, but religion isn't necessarily of the Truth, and the devil's religion has sought to control from the outset. See Revelation 13:1-2.

Only through war can technology increase
I disagree entirely, based upon scriptural evidences, since before the advent of sin (with Lucifer), there was already true education, true knowledge, and there was not yet one single "war" to be spoken of, since all wisdom and knowledge existed with JEHOVAH from eternity.

, and humanity can conquer the stars.
Fallen humanity, and thus fallen angels also, cannot ever "conquer the stars". The scripture teaches that this planet [world, spheroid, is the quarantine zone, the sickbed of the universal Hospital [angels, as nurses, Christ Jesus the Great Physician, a leper colony on an island in space, struck off [temporarily] from the continent of heaven, etc], and even now [since the Cross] satan is trapped here, unable to leave [1 Timothy 6:7 (which seems to draw upon Job 1:21 & Ecclesiastes 5:15); Revelation 12:8-13; Romans 5:6 [combined with Revelation 12:10]; 2 Corinthians 4:4 [this world only and no other worldly body in the heavens] KJB].

Psa_115:16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.
The ‘space program’ is actually another system based upon the ‘tower of babel’ reasoning/thought, being another way up into Heaven other than The Way (John 14:6), another ladder other than the Jacob’s Ladder - Jesus Christ. The only way into Heaven now is by vision, or by John 14:1-3. JEHOVAH does not allow sin to spread beyond this world.
But it must be done with love, the way God does it.
Islam is the antithesis of love, it is selfishness (Muhammad's). The 'god' of the qur'an, thus Islam, knows nothing of love, but only bigotry, war (jihad), hate, fear (terror), and the near final revelation, being surah 9, doesn't even begin as all the other surah's, but speaks of a perpetual slaughter (and eternal burning in Jahannam, Islamic hellfire) upon all that do not accept Islam.

Because without love, life is not worth having.
I agree with the sentiment, but Islam does not teach love.

The sole reason the Creator made the universe in the first place is on love's account.
I can agree with this sentiment, but again, that which Islam claims to be love is not actually love at all.

It's time for the fundamentalists to own up to their scheming and deceitful ways, and take responsibility for the losses suffered by God and His churches from the outside.
A "fundamentalist" is someone who believes in "fundamentals", which even Islam itself is a religion of "fundamentals".

The scheming is done by those who practice the Islamic Taqiyyah (surah 3:28, 16:106, Tafsir of Ibn Kathir, 744-745, etc).
 
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Hi all,
Upon signing up, I was asked to click if I was a 'Christian' or a 'Muslim.' While I practice Christianity more so that I do Islam (though I have been to Mosque from time to time), I decided to click 'Muslim,' as it is known that the many prophets of the religions of the God of Monotheism that came before visited Mohammed in his lifetime, in order to authenticate the establishment of yet another of God's many great religions. Why, then, would any Muslim deny the legitimacy of Christianity?
It is not necessary, however, for a Christian to accept Islam, seeing as though there is no mention of it in the scripture.
And yet, Christians and Muslims are constantly at war with one another. Why does God do this to His peoples? Is war really that much fun? Members of all monotheistic faiths should be working together to repel the advance of nihilism that has spread since World War II. Religion has been responsible for all the major advancements in history leading to the present.
Only through war can technology increase, and humanity can conquer the stars. But it must be done with love, the way God does it. Because without love, life is not worth having. The sole reason the Creator made the universe in the first place is on love's account.
It's time for the fundamentalists to own up to their scheming and deceitful ways, and take responsibility for the losses suffered by God and His churches from the outside.
Welcome,
You are on the right path. It is better to have one foot on a path towards Christ than two walking in a different direction. So let me just share a few scriptures with you.

Jesus said: "I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father but by Me."
"I am the Light of the World."
"I am the Good Shepherd."
"I am the resurrection and the life.
Before Abraham was, I am." (Jesus pre-existed with the Father)
"I am the Bread of Life."
"I am the Doorway."
"I am He..." (Who spoke to the prophets)
"I am the vine and you are the branches."
"IF YOU BELIEVE IN ME YOU WILL HAVE ETERNAL LIFE."

No other prophet ever claimed these things no could they.
No other prophet claimed to be the Son of God.
No other prophet came to take away the sins of the world, nor could they. Only God could do that.
"In the beginning was the WORD and the WORD was with God and the WORD was God."
"The Word became flesh and dwelt among us."
Jesus is the Word, the exact expression and essence of God.
He said. "I and the Father are one."
God emptied Himself and came down from Heaven into the womb of Mary and was born. Angels and people worshipped Him.
He grew in statute, with a purpose, a mission to save the world and offer eternal life.
Putting your faith in Jesus is quite different than believing in any prophet. He was more than a prophet. He is God. After He became sin and died, He rise from the dead and walked among over 500 witnesses who also saw him ascend into heaven.
Col. 1:16-17 says He is the Creator of everything.
He became a man and relinquished His glory. He did regard His equality with God as something man would grasp and still go this day many don't. Before He ascended He saud that His Father gave Him all authority in Heaven and in Earth. To accomplish that, you need to be omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent. You need to be God.
Jesus has changed the world. He has had more influence than any other human. He changes lives. We are all born spiritually dead and He gives us life.
That's enough for now.
 

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But it must be done with love, the way God does it. Because without love, life is not worth having. The sole reason the Creator made the universe in the first place is on love's account.
God's plan is working perfectly. He is in control. You are correct on saying that it all about Love. But how would we know good without evil? We could not appreciate God's attributes or know them unless we experienced their opposites. When someone lives without love, peace, joy, kindness, hope, faith, health, comfort, etc.; but then God's goodness comes along and takes them out of their misery and shows them His love - then they really know what love is and appreciate it.
After war, there is peace.
Ultimately, good and evil will reach a precipice, and I believe we are approaching that point soon, then God will separate them and put Satan, sin and evil down and we will live in peace for 1000 years - under a true and holy king, Jesus. But only thise who have faith in Christ will be saved.
Wars are coming and this is something thay is prophesied and will take place. Judgment Day, in other terms, the Great Tribulation that will last 3 1/2 years. Devastation and Death to probably 2/3 of the planet.
So the Bible make a it simple: You are either with Christ or not. There is no other name in Heaven or on earth with whom we can be saved.
 

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Well maybe they don't quite "hate" but there has been a heck of a lot of anti-Muslim opinions of many christians and nonchristians in the last decades.

With good reason is there a lot of anti-Muslim opinions in the last decades. Islam is Satanic. No ideology in the history of the world is as oppressive as Islam. Islam is a supremacist, expansionist, totalitarian ideology. It's dualistic nature is not well understood by outsiders. One application of this principle is doing evil things is acceptable if it furthers the spread of Islam. As CS Lewis pointed out, there is no Principle of Universal Benevolence in Islam and Islam is the only religion that this is true.

The contradiction with Christianity is that the more closely one follows the teachings of Christ, the more peaceful they will be; the more one follows Islamic teachings, the more violent they will be. Seize them and slay them where ever you find them. Sura 4:89

A major misunderstanding people have is to confuse Islam (Satanic principles) with Muslims (Human Beings). While there can be good Muslims (who don't really practice), Muslims who follow Islam are not good. Evidence is the 40,000 Jihadi attacks since 9/11. Devotees of Islam follow Sura 4:89 and the principle of abrogation and Taqiya. Abrogation means the earlier peaceful Sura's are superseded by the later Sura's. Taqiya is the principle of lying to advance Islam. One way to know this is true is how Islamic cleric's never take to the air waves to explain how Jihadi's are misunderstanding Islam. Still, they have been caught many times saying one thing in English and the opposite in Arabic.

One example of Taqiya is defending the Koran by claiming things were 'taken out of context.' The Koran is organized by the length of the Sura and is remarkably void of any context. Most Muslims recite the Koran in Arabic and have little knowledge of what it says. The biggest victim of Islam throughout history are Muslims. So, I pray for the billions of oppressed Muslims throughout the world.

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Why should a Muslim consider becoming a Christian? As a Muslim, you desire to spend eternity with God in Paradise. Yet even the most devout Muslim has no assurance of eternity with God. No matter how well you keep the Five Pillars, there is no certainty you will see Allah in Paradise. The only exception mentioned in the Qur'an is to die as a martyr in jihad (Sura 3:157).

The Bible, however, offers assurance of eternal life. Even better, this assurance is not based on works; it is based on faith in Jesus (Isa). In Islam, your goal is for your good works to outweigh the bad.
 
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To anyone who considers themselves to be a muslim I declare the following,

That 1 John 4:15 in the injeel (the Christian scriptures, the Holy Bible) relates to us the reality of Jesus Christ,

1Jo 4:15, Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

Since sharia law dictates that if anyone confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, the penalty is to be beheaded, here is a problem in Islam.

I believe that there are verses in the Quran that teach that the injeel is inspired by God.

So, Islam punishes people for having God in their heart.

At least it can be seen that 1 John 4:15 is true to the extent that if anyone lives in a Muslim country and confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, it would have to be true that God abides in them and them in God; because that would be the only reason why someone would make a profession that might bring about their own death by beheading.
 

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Christians misunderstand who Ismael is and have a deep-seated distrust of all spirituality they do not recognize. This is called immaturity.
Not really. Islam was created to OPPOSE the Gospel and OPPOSE Christ. So people must decide who is the true Savior and who is the false prophet. All you have to do is read the Koran and discover this for yourself. According to the Koran, Christians and Jews are bound for Hell.
 
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Why, then, would any Muslim deny the legitimacy of Christianity?
Maybe for the same reason they deny the Deity of Jesus and the atoning death of Jesus for our sins.
 

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The Koran denies the divinity of Jesus Christ. It denies that God begot a son and labels Jesus a prophet (which is at least true because the Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of prophesy), yet ignores His teaching and His claims about His own person.
Islam isn't mentioned in scripture because it didn't exist until more than 600 years after the death and resurrection of Yashua (Jesus) the Christ.
The bible, and specifically in the epistle called 1st John, talks about antichrists in the world and identifies them as those who deny Jesus Christ, not that he lived, but who He is, the creator of the Universe dwelling in a tent of flesh.
According to a plain reading of scripture, the prophet of Islam is a false prophet, antichrist, and enemy of God.
That my friend is why there is constant enmity between Christianity and Islam and will be until Jesus returns on the clouds and in the glory of God.
Some parts of the "Christian" churches embrace a broad ecumenism that acknowledges many paths to God, but Jesus Himself said that there is only one.
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6
Religion doesn't save anyone, a relationship with God through Jesus Christ does. Religion doesn't transform people or make their spirit alive to God and dead to sin, the Spirit of God recieved by faith in the Son of God does that.
Wars are waged because all men are creatures of wrath by nature, subjects of the kingdom of darkness. Jesus' blood, sacrificed on the cross, the blood of the only innocent man ever born, satisfied God's wrath against man's sin for all who submit to Jesus Christ in faith. There is no other redemption for a fallen humanity, wicked to the core, and by nature children of wrath. There is no other adoption as a son of God except by recieving His Spirit through faith in His Son.
3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”John 3:3
It is literally impossible to honor the "prophet " of Islam and honor the scriptures, the word of God. It is impossible to be a Muslim and a Christian at the same time.
Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not singling out Islam, because it is impossible to be Buddhist and a Christian at the same time. It is impossible to be a Hindu and a Christian at the same time. There are many religions, but only one way of redemption, one way of holiness, one name by which men might be saved, Jesus the Christ.
 
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And this remark is total nonsense. Ishmael is the ancestor of the Arabs, and the Arabs are all Muslims. Should Christians reject the Koran and its misrepresentation of the Bible and the Gospel? Absolutely. The Koran is a direct attack on the Gospel and Christ.
The Arabs are not all Muslims, nor are all Muslims Arabs, but believe or die is a strong motivation to believe, even in Christianity. The forced conversions of Islam were at the point of a sword, but nearly all Christians turn to Christ out of the fear of death and eternal condemnation.
That said, Islam, like all religion, is an attack on a true relationship with God through faith in His Son. Religion is what the created do for the creator, salvation is what the creator did for His creation.
 
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Neville Goddard left 1972, not many knew him back then but they do now,
It is in you as a person that the nature of God is revealed, for a scriptural episode is not a record of an historical event, but a parabolic revelation of truth. To see Jesus or David as an historical character is to see truth tempered to the weakness of your soul. You must see what the characters represent, rather than the characters themselves. This is true for every story in scripture, for every episode will unfold within you.

The title of the 54th Psalm is translated as “David is hiding with us” in the King James Version, and “David is in hiding among us” in the Revised Standard Version; but the title should read: “David is in hiding within us,” for that is where he is, as well as every character in scripture. When I say, with Blake: “All that you behold, though it appears without it is within, in your Imagination of which this world of mortality is but a shadow,” I mean that literally, for the drama of life unfolds from within.

The characters Jesus, David, Abraham, and Moses are but personifications of eternal states, which you individually will encounter as you move towards the ultimate awakening of being God himself. In his poem, “Saul” Robert Browning tells the story recorded in the 16th chapter of the Book of First Samuel, of how David cured Saul of the evil spirits which the Lord had sent upon him.
Nonsense. The largest portion of scripture is history with real persons, real events, real miraculous acts, and a very real only begotten Son of God who was given the name Yashua by heavenly decree.
Archeologists, including many Jews who do not accept Jesus as their messiah, have been digging up physical proof of the veracity of scripture in Israel and the middle east since archeology became a scientific discipline and with increasing frequency since the re-establishment of the nation of Israel in Palestine, the only nation in history to ever be restored to ancestral lands.
You can still visit the graves of at least some of those very real people recorded in scripture. You can look at the remains of scriptural scrolls which have become part of the bible and predict the birth, life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, and which date back hundreds of years before His birth.
Humanity is created in the image of our creator and we may receive His Spirit through faith in His Son, but we don't become the Spirit we receive, not now or ever.
The notion that God is schizophrenic and forgot who He is (and that He is really us) is entirely unbiblical in that it ignores the biblical attributes of God's omniscience and omnipotence.
All spirituality is not inherently good. Adolf Hitler was a very spiritual man, but not of a righteous spirit and not of the Spirit of God. Human behavior does not define what is good, but the person of God in His only begotten Son, Joshua (Jesus) of Nazareth, reveals what is good and righteous and just and true. He alone is the express image of the person of God. He alone is the true standard of righteousness. He alone is the only savior of humanity. His Father alone is the One who Grant's the gift of His Spirit to those who receive Him by faith.
You can believe whatever you want, but there is no eternal life outside Christ, only destruction and wrath.
 

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The Bible warns about Islam, long before it came along.

700 years before an angel calling himself Gabriel appeared to Mohammed and dictated the Quran - which contradicts the Bible, and says God has no son - the apostles of Jesus warned us against any angelic revelation that contradicts the Bible, by writing that if an angel appears and gives another gospel than they, the apostles, gave us, he is accursed... for Satan appears as an angel of light, to deceive.

Scripture warns in 1 John that anyone who denies the son is an antichrist, and warns that he who denies the Son, has neither father or son.

Since belief Jesus is Gods son and is the only way to the Father is required to be saved from Hell, no Muslim can be saved while they remain one, because they must deny Jesus is the son of God, since the Quran denies that God has one.

And according to 1John, Islam is an antichrist religion.

Sad, but true.

Shalom Aleichem
 
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The OP is no longer active but Don’t some Jews deny The Divinity of Jesus too? What do you make of them?