God's Will Concerning Salvation For Mankind

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What do the scriptures state is the will of God concerning salvation for mankind?
Is it for all mankind, a few, or most?

Please post the scripture text with your opinion.
 

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john 3 16 :rolleyes:

John 3:16 has a condition applied to it, "whosoever believeth in him."
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Only those that meet the condition will have "everlasting life."
 

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John 3:16 has a condition applied to it, "whosoever believeth in him."
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Only those that meet the condition will have "everlasting life."

Very true I agree but is it for all, most or just a few?
 

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Very true I agree but is it for all, most or just a few?

"whosoever" is
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All that "believe" in Him. My question to you is, what do we need to believe about HIM. We are saved by grace through faith. Faith in what? I believe that faith is in Christ as the Word of God.
 

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"whosoever" is
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All that "believe" in Him. My question to you is, what do we need to believe about HIM. We are saved by grace through faith. Faith in what? I believe that faith is in Christ as the Word of God.

But now God has shown us a different way of being right in his sight--not by obeying the law but by the way promised in the Scriptures long ago. We are made right in God's sight when we trust in Jesus Christ to take away our sins. And we all can be saved in this same way, no matter who we are or what we have done.
For all have sinned; all fall short of God's glorious standard. Yet now God in his gracious kindness declares us not guilty. He has done this through Christ Jesus, who has freed us by taking away our sins. For God sent Jesus to take the punishment for our sins and to satisfy God's anger against us. We are made right with God when we believe that Jesus shed his blood, sacrificing his life for us. God was being entirely fair and just when he did not punish those who sinned in former times. And he is entirely fair and just in this present time when he declares sinners to be right in his sight because they believe in Jesus. Romans 3:21-25
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But now God has shown us a different way of being right in his sight--not by obeying the law but by the way promised in the Scriptures long ago. We are made right in God's sight when we trust in Jesus Christ to take away our sins. And we all can be saved in this same way, no matter who we are or what we have done.
For all have sinned; all fall short of God's glorious standard. Yet now God in his gracious kindness declares us not guilty. He has done this through Christ Jesus, who has freed us by taking away our sins. For God sent Jesus to take the punishment for our sins and to satisfy God's anger against us. We are made right with God when we believe that Jesus shed his blood, sacrificing his life for us. God was being entirely fair and just when he did not punish those who sinned in former times. And he is entirely fair and just in this present time when he declares sinners to be right in his sight because they believe in Jesus. Romans 3:21-25
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And those that choose to not believe? They remain lost in sin.

By the way, I am sure you would agree that the word "believe" is a verb, action. So that is our part just like "faith" is our part. It is something we do. I also see faith as our accepting the work He has done.

I think this next question also fit into the parameters of the OP. What happens in the millennium?
 

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So that is our part just like "faith" is our part. It is something we do.

Actually, faith is something we receive first, then it's something we do.

Php 1:27 Only let your manner of life be worthy of the gospel of Christ, so that whether I come and see you or am absent, I may hear of you that you are standing firm in one spirit, with one mind striving side by side for the faith of the gospel,
Php 1:28 and not frightened in anything by your opponents. This is a clear sign to them of their destruction, but of your salvation, and that from God.
Php 1:29 For it has been granted to you that for the sake of Christ you should not only believe in him but also suffer for his sake,
 

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What do the scriptures state is the will of God concerning salvation for mankind?

It is God's will that "all" would be saved.

1 Timothy 2:3-4 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

God established things so that all "could" be saved.

John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Even with an open door and an invitation, no one would come to Jesus without that active work of God.

2 Timothy 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

The Bible speaks of acts of sovereignty on the part of God. The Bible also speaks of acts of volition on our part. I do not think I would want to declare that I have figured out everything about how and why God saves people. However, I do feel confident declaring my gratitude.
 

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It is God's will that "all" would be saved.

1 Timothy 2:3-4 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

God established things so that all "could" be saved.

John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Even with an open door and an invitation, no one would come to Jesus without that active work of God.

2 Timothy 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

The Bible speaks of acts of sovereignty on the part of God. The Bible also speaks of acts of volition on our part. I do not think I would want to declare that I have figured out everything about how and why God saves people. However, I do feel confident declaring my gratitude.

Nice post Tim, I see you caught a glimpse of Fathers heart in the scriptures.
 

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Nice post Tim, I see you caught a glimpse of Fathers heart in the scriptures.

Happy birthday my friend.
I see you see as well B) you will know as you have been known is the Fathers promise as well
well sometimes words have two meanings, don't get stuck on the steps to heaven but push on to capture the prize
 

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Happy birthday my friend.
I see you see as well B) you will know as you have been known is the Fathers promise as well
well sometimes words have two meanings, don't get stuck on the steps to heaven but push on to capture the prize

Thanks Bud02
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I always thought Peter touched on that subject...
[sup]2 Peter 3:9[/sup] "The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance."

also Timothy

[sup]1 Tim 2:3[/sup] "This is good, and pleases God our Savior, [sup]4[/sup] who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth"

But who needs scripture... isn't it obvious that our Father who is Love wouldn't take any pleasure in a human perishing? Obviously He would want everyone to be saved. He is LOVE...
 

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I always thought Peter touched on that subject...
[sup]2 Peter 3:9[/sup] "The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance."

also Timothy

[sup]1 Tim 2:3[/sup] "This is good, and pleases God our Savior, [sup]4[/sup] who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth"

But who needs scripture... isn't it obvious that our Father who is Love wouldn't take any pleasure in a human perishing? Obviously He would want everyone to be saved. He is LOVE...

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jiggyfly

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I always thought Peter touched on that subject...
[sup]2 Peter 3:9[/sup] "The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance."

also Timothy

[sup]1 Tim 2:3[/sup] "This is good, and pleases God our Savior, [sup]4[/sup] who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth"

But who needs scripture... isn't it obvious that our Father who is Love wouldn't take any pleasure in a human perishing? Obviously He would want everyone to be saved. He is LOVE...

I agree Robbie and Bud02, if we know Father intimately than we should know this experientially and the confirmation in the scriptures is a bonus. But religion is a cruel tyrant, and religious mindset is an enemy of the Truth. I struggled with this for months before giving in to HolySpirit and accepted the truth concerning reconciliation.