The 'blessed virgin Mary'

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When people have no reply to an argument they descend to mockery.
"Mockery and abuse issue from the proud man, but vengeance lies in wait for him like a lion." (Sirach 27:28)
And as I said, I am being quite serious in the reproof of mystical Mary worship.

If there was mockery in it to you, it is because the Scriptures are mocking your perpetual babe state in your mystical 'Mother', that you call 'Mary'.

And so, plainly it is you who have no answer to it.

False accusation of the brethren is the first resort of them clinging to a dragon's mystical doctrine. (Rev 12)

You are a child trying play games in an adult arena. You pipe and we don't dance with you; you mourn and we don't lament with you.

So take your mystical pipe, go home to your Mother Mary, and mourn with your fellow children, about all the 'abuse and mocking attacks' you've been getting by them that refuse your false doctrine and stand for the gospel of Jesus Christ and Him only. The gospel of Mary is false.

"You must stop your continual persecution of me!" Professor Moriarty to Sherlock Holmes, who had just foiled another of his well-planned crimes against the Law and Humanity.
 

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"But ye have set at naught all my counsel, and would none of my reproof: I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh" (Prov 1)

So, you see it all depends on where each stands: God mocks them that refuse His counsel, and the proud mock them that teach His Word.

One here is defending the gospel of the Cross of Jesus Christ against false doctrine, or one here is setting at naught the counsel of true doctrine of Scripture.

One man's treasure is another's man's trash and visa versa.

If the One and Only Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God, and mid-Mediator between man and the man Christ Jesus is in fact true doctrine of Christ, then I am setting at naught God's counsel and mocking God's teacher.

But, if this 'Mary' is not, then you are setting at naught God's counsel and reproof, while mocking the Scripture with false doctrine.

And as I said, I am being quite serious in the reproof of mystical Mary worship.

If there was mockery in it to you, it is because the Scriptures are mocking your perpetual babe state in your mystical 'Mother', that you call 'Mary'.

And so, plainly it is you who have no answer to it.

False accusation of the brethren is the first resort of them clinging to a dragon's mystical doctrine. (Rev 12)

You are a child trying play games in an adult arena. You pipe and we don't dance with you; you mourn and we don't lament with you.

So take your mystical pipe, go home to your Mother Mary, and mourn with your fellow children, about all the 'abuse and mocking attacks' you've been getting by them that refuse your false doctrine and stand for the gospel of Jesus Christ and Him only. The gospel of Mary is false.

"You must stop your continual persecution of me!" Professor Moriarty to Sherlock Holmes, who had just foiled another of his well-planned crimes against the Law and Humanity.

oooh! I must be special. I got two replies to the same post!

I've looked through your last few posts (not counting these two) and I notice that you never actually reply to the points raised. You just descend to abuse and mockery.

Try restraining you scorn and make some serious answers. Otherwise you are just wasting everyone's time.
 

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oooh! I must be special. I got two replies to the same post!

I've looked through your last few posts (not counting these two) and I notice that you never actually reply to the points raised. You just descend to abuse and mockery.

Try restraining you scorn and make some serious answers. Otherwise you are just wasting everyone's time.
My thread, my time. You are the visitor.

And yes, that would make you doubly special. And remember, my scriptural scorn is serious.

But, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, to prove yourself serious.

Give me at least one point that I have not specifically responded to. Because I have no clue what you are talking about. You may add others if you wish...
 
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Atheist Harvard Prof Says Supernatural Vision of Our Lady Led Him to Catholicism: She Was “Indescribably Beautiful”

Shalom World interviewed former Harvard Professor Roy Schoeman regarding his Catholic conversion story. The business professor revealed how a series of mystical encounters led him to Catholicism, including an intimate experience with the Blessed Virgin Mary.

Schoeman explains that he became an atheist in college after leaving the Jewish faith. He explained however, that atheism’s emptiness led his heart to desire more.
In the video below, Schoeman describes his mystical encounter with the Blessed Virgin Mary that led him to yearn for Catholicism.

Listen to his full conversion story below:






 
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Yes we reign with Jesus but I'm not aware we have different functions within the kingdom of heaven. Perhaps you can enlighten my ignorance?

If the whole body were an eye, where would the hearing be? If the whole body were hearing, where would the sense of smell be?

But as it is, God placed the parts, each one of them, in the body as he intended.

If they were all one part, where would the body be?

But as it is, there are many parts, yet one body.

Jesus NEVER acknowledged Mary as His "mother" or called her "mother"

Wow, that's harsh!

Do you not think Jesus is human?

Pax!
 

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In the end, whatever. Let them worship the Father and the Son and the Mother, and we can worship with the Father and the Son...

We do not offer latria to Mary!

To God alone do we offer sacrifice!

We do so in union with Mary and the saints...

To whom do you offer sacrifice?

Peace be with you!

Christ is risen!
Alleluia!
 

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Jesus NEVER acknowledged Mary as His "mother" or called her "mother" as per John 2:4. I wonder why? Is it because to be the mother of God [as many claim Mary to be] Mary also had to be a God?

To God Be The Glory
Correct.
Jesus was a JEW, who live the Law perfectly - and He honored His mother perfectly, per the Commandment given (Exod. 20:12).

In John's Gospel, we see the evidence of this as Jesus repeatedly refers to His mother as "Woman".
This correlates directly to the Woman in Gen. 3:15 and in Rev. 12.

Jesus defeats death on Calvary and fulfills the prophecy in Gen. 3:15 about the offspring of the Woman. Mary is present at the foot of the cross while this is happening - and WHAT does Jesus call her in John 19:26? He calls her “WOMAN”, because the prophecy about the head of the serpent being crushed in Genesis is taking place right there on Calvary.

An interesting side note regarding Our Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico . . .

The name in the Aztecan dialect (Nahuatl) was “Coatlaxopeuh”, pronounced “Quatlasupe”. The name was corrupted by the Spanish to Guadalupe”. Coatlaxopeuh, means “crushed serpent.” Ironically, in the Aztec religion the highest idol and creator of mankind is Quetzalcóatl, which means “Feather-Serpent.”

So Our Lady of Guadalupe is “Our Lady of the crushed serpent”, which is exactly what we read about her in Gen. 3:15 . . .
“And I will put enmity between you and the WOMAN, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”

So, this people who had NEVER heard of the Bible or Jesus or Mary or Eve or Satan - or understood ANY other language than their own, referred to Mary as “Our Lady of the crushed serpent”.
 
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Exactly opposite.

The Virgin Mary apologists have been trying to convince us all that they are not elevating her to even being equal with the Lord Jesus nor God, as Coredemptrix (did I get that right?) or whatever. Then they post this song of Ave Maria and translate all the titles sung in it. So, the song maker, being Catholic certainly believed she is all these things...
So do I - and so should YOU.

The only Titles in the Ave Maria are "Full of Grace" (Luke 1:28) and "Mother of God", which she absolutely IS if you believe Jesus to be God.
Ummm, that's only TWO, by my count . . .
My point is, euphemistically, that with the titles alone she wins the contest of Who's most essential in heaven. I mean, all Jesus has going for Him is Lord God and Savior...3 titles compared to how many for Mary?
THREE titles??
Really??

Maybe YOU limit Him to just three - but we Catholics have a LITANY of titles for our Lord . . .
Jesus, Son of the living God
Jesus, splendor of the Father
Jesus, brightness of everlasting light
Jesus, king of glory
Jesus, dawn of justice
Jesus, Son of the Virgin Mary
Jesus, worthy of our love
Jesus, worthy of our wonder
Jesus, mighty God
Jesus, father of the world to come
Jesus, prince of peace
Jesus, all-powerful
Jesus, pattern of patience
Jesus, model of obedience
Jesus, gentle and humble of heart
Jesus, lover of chastity
Jesus, lover of us all
Jesus, God of peace
Jesus, author of life
Jesus, model of goodness
Jesus, seeker of souls
Jesus, our God
Jesus, our refuge
Jesus, father of the poor
Jesus, treasure of the faithful
Jesus, Good Shepherd
Jesus, the true light
Jesus, eternal wisdom
Jesus, infinite goodness
Jesus, our way and our life
Jesus, joy of angels
Jesus, king of patriarchs
Jesus, teacher of apostles
Jesus, master of evangelists
Jesus, courage of martyrs
Jesus, light of confessors
Jesus, purity of virgins
Jesus, crown of all saints


To name a few . . .

Jesus is LORD - Mary isn't.
She is His MOTHER - so get your facts straight . . .
So do I - and so should YOU.

The only Titles in the Ave Maria are "Full of Grace" (Luke 1:28) and "Mother of God", which is absolutely IS if you believe Jesus to be God.
Ummm, that's only TWO, by my count . . .

THREE titles??
Really??

Maybe YOU limit Him to just three - but we Catholics have a LITANY of titles for our Lord . . .
Jesus, Son of the living God
Jesus, splendor of the Father
Jesus, brightness of everlasting light
Jesus, king of glory
Jesus, dawn of justice
Jesus, Son of the Virgin Mary
Jesus, worthy of our love
Jesus, worthy of our wonder
Jesus, mighty God
Jesus, father of the world to come
Jesus, prince of peace
Jesus, all-powerful
Jesus, pattern of patience
Jesus, model of obedience
Jesus, gentle and humble of heart
Jesus, lover of chastity
Jesus, lover of us all
Jesus, God of peace
Jesus, author of life
Jesus, model of goodness
Jesus, seeker of souls
Jesus, our God
Jesus, our refuge
Jesus, father of the poor
Jesus, treasure of the faithful
Jesus, Good Shepherd
Jesus, the true light
Jesus, eternal wisdom
Jesus, infinite goodness
Jesus, our way and our life
Jesus, joy of angels
Jesus, king of patriarchs
Jesus, teacher of apostles
Jesus, master of evangelists
Jesus, courage of martyrs
Jesus, light of confessors
Jesus, purity of virgins
Jesus, crown of all saints


To name a few . . .

Jesus is LORD - Mary isn't.
She is His MOTHER - so get your facts straight . . .
Soooooo - are you ever going to ADMIT that I caught you in at least TWO LIES here??
 

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My thread, my time. You are the visitor.

And yes, that would make you doubly special. And remember, my scriptural scorn is serious.

But, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, to prove yourself serious.

Give me at least one point that I have not specifically responded to. Because I have no clue what you are talking about. You may add others if you wish...
Matt Slick says Mary was nothing more than a reusable incubator and the repentance of thousands and numerous miracles is a demonic deception. This indicates Borderline Personality Disorder. My question is, are you a CARMinion or a closet Calvinist?
 
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Matt Slick says Mary was nothing more than a reusable incubator and the repentance of thousands and numerous miracles is a demonic deception. This indicates Borderline Personality Disorder. My question is, are you a CARMinion or a closet Calvinist?

And so the offer goes unanswered.

Matt Slick? Who in the world is he?

"Schoeman describes his mystical encounter with the Blessed Virgin Mary that led him to yearn for Catholicism".

Schoeman? Who in the world is he?

"Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are they?"

I asked for a simple Scripture that specifically suggests this 'Mary' of yours is one 'Blessed above' and 'Mother above', and you ask me if I am a Carminion?? or a closet Calvinist??

I gave you a chance to be serious. You are not. You are a child. You can continue to post your 'stuff' if you like, and I will quote and respond accordingly, but I will no longer bother replying to you personally in this thread.

Unless of course you want to show me a Scripture supporting your position, that I have not responded to, as I Have offered to do.

Give me Scripture, not feigned intellectual jibberish of people I have no knowledge of nor regard for.

The doctrine of Christ is no more proved by experience and ideas of men, than the proofs of mathematics are ascertained by man's notions of logic.
 
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So do I - and so should YOU.

The only Titles in the Ave Maria are "Full of Grace" (Luke 1:28) and "Mother of God", which she absolutely IS if you believe Jesus to be God.
Ummm, that's only TWO, by my count . . .

THREE titles??
Really??

Maybe YOU limit Him to just three - but we Catholics have a LITANY of titles for our Lord . . .
Jesus, Son of the living God
Jesus, splendor of the Father
Jesus, brightness of everlasting light
Jesus, king of glory
Jesus, dawn of justice
Jesus, Son of the Virgin Mary
Jesus, worthy of our love
Jesus, worthy of our wonder
Jesus, mighty God
Jesus, father of the world to come
Jesus, prince of peace
Jesus, all-powerful
Jesus, pattern of patience
Jesus, model of obedience
Jesus, gentle and humble of heart
Jesus, lover of chastity
Jesus, lover of us all
Jesus, God of peace
Jesus, author of life
Jesus, model of goodness
Jesus, seeker of souls
Jesus, our God
Jesus, our refuge
Jesus, father of the poor
Jesus, treasure of the faithful
Jesus, Good Shepherd
Jesus, the true light
Jesus, eternal wisdom
Jesus, infinite goodness
Jesus, our way and our life
Jesus, joy of angels
Jesus, king of patriarchs
Jesus, teacher of apostles
Jesus, master of evangelists
Jesus, courage of martyrs
Jesus, light of confessors
Jesus, purity of virgins
Jesus, crown of all saints


To name a few . . .

Jesus is LORD - Mary isn't.
She is His MOTHER - so get your facts straight . . .

Soooooo - are you ever going to ADMIT that I caught you in at least TWO LIES here??

I appreciate your efforts to give more titles to Jesus than Mary, even if Scripture doesn't confirm them. Bit it only takes one title of this 'Mary' of yours to reject it: "Mother of God"

You look like a bear of a guy from your photo, and you obviously like to be cradled in the arms of your sweet mother" Mary'. Go for it. I won't despoil you of you cradling comfort.

Sweet dreams.
 

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Has anyone considered the words of Christ? A man told him blessed are the paps the nursed you? Meaning Mary. His response to him was more blessed are they who hear the word and obey it. Or the words at the cross where he calls Mary woman and not mother. But said to Mary concerning John “behold your son.” How about when the apostle wrote that Christ was as the high priest that Abraham met. Who had no mother brothers or “For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.”
“Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.”
 
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Give me at least one point that I have not specifically responded to. Because I have no clue what you are talking about. You may add others if you wish...

Responding to a post is not the same as replying to points raised in the post.
 

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The only Titles in the Ave Maria are "Full of Grace" (Luke 1:28) and "Mother of God", which she absolutely IS if you believe Jesus to be God.
Ummm, that's only TWO, by my count . .

Saying hi or hail is not a tittle it’s a greeting. Hellow.

Catholicism teaches that this queen entity they have named Mary as goddess that she alone received the fullness of Christ's grace. In the end clearly . . usurping the work that exclusively comes from the work of the unseen Holy Father (not the one seen in Rome) but of Father and Son’s faith (one God) their combined labor of Love. No father no Son .

The government of peace is reckoned as two working as one. Not 3500 patron saints the legion , the living pew sitters non venrable) seeking after the dead according to their image idols (teraphims) they are needed to put a face on the legion when it comes up (3500 and rising) .

No such doctrine of “denying the mother” .God who is not a man as us has no Mother or Father.. That is a pagan idea. Kings, fathers, prince’s, queens procreators of flesh. Not the father of new born again spirit life. God unseen is the father of all spirit life .it’s his Spirit that give rebirth to new creatures all human flesh profits for zero, nada nothing.

1 John 2:22-23Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

No mother missing in the above prescription of faith

Catholisicism teaches the rest of mankind receives a unknown remnant of grace . They must beleive when they die they have not received sufficient grace as to the end of faith “salvation” . There salvation is to wonder, wonder and wonder , mystery to mystery never to coming to end of faith.


1 Peter 1:8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the "glory" that should follow.

Believers who do receive the fullness of grace at the hearing of faith received the end from the beginning. Again those who sek after godeseses find wonders and attribute God's grace to this entity they call Mary . in order to produce a hierarchy of men called fathers that lord it over the faith of Christ giving it to sinful mankind.
 

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I appreciate your efforts to give more titles to Jesus than Mary, even if Scripture doesn't confirm them. Bit it only takes one title of this 'Mary' of yours to reject it: "Mother of God"
WRONG.

First of all - Mary IS the Mother of God - unless you deny that Jesus is God.
And if you deny that - then HE has a problem with YOU:
Matt. 10:33

"But whoever denies me before men, I ALSO will deny before my Father who is in heaven."

And EVERY title in the Litany I gave you can be supported by Scripture. Here is another list of directly Scriptural titles that we use for our Lord - proving once again that YOUR statement about Mary having "more titles" is just another idiotic, anti-Catholic LIE . . .
Advocate - 1 John 2:1
Alpha and Omega - Revelation 1:8; 22:13
The Almighty - Revelation 1:8
Ancient of Days - Daniel 7:22
Arm of the Lord -Isaiah 53:1
Author and Finisher of our Faith - Hebrews 12:2
Beloved Son - Colossians 1:13
Bread of Life - John 6:35
Living Bread - John 6:51
Bridegroom - John 3:29
Bright Morning Star - Revelation 22:16

Chief Shepherd - 1 Peter 5:4
Chosen One - Luke 23:35
Christ - Matthew 16:20
Christ Jesus - 1 Timothy 1:15; Colossians 1:1
Christ of God - Luke 9:20
Christ the Lord - Luke 2:11
Christ Who Is Above All - Romans 9:5
Consolation of Israel - Luke 2:25
Chief Cornerstone - Ephesians 2:20; 1 Peter 2:6
Dayspring - Luke 1:78
Deliverer - Romans 11:26
Deliverer from the Wrath to Come - 1 Thessalonians 1:10
The Desire of All Nations - Haggai 2:7
Eldest of Many Brothers - Romans 8:29
Emmanuel - Matthew 1:23
Faithful and True Witness - Revelation 1:5; 3:14
Father Forever - Isaiah 9:6
First and Last - Revelation 1:17; 2:8
Firstborn of All Creation - Colossians 1:15
First Fruits - 1 Corinthians 15:20
Gate of the Sheepfold - John 10:7
Glory - Luke 2:32
Good Shepherd - John 10:11; 14
Great Shepherd of the Sheep - Hebrews 13:20
Head of the Church - Colossians 1:18; Ephesians 1:22
Hidden Manna - Revelation 2:17
High Priest - Hebrews 3:1; 4:14; 7:26
Heir of all things - Hebrews 1:2
Holy One - Acts 2:27
Holy One of God - Mark 1:24
Holy Servant - Acts 4:27
Horn of Salvation - Luke 1:69
I Am - John 8:58
Image of the Invisible God - 2 Corinthians 4:4; Colossians 1:15
Intercessor - Hebrews 7:25
Judge of the World - 2 Timothy 4:1; Acts 10:42
Just One - Acts 7:52
Just Judge - 2 Timothy 4:8
King of Israel - John 1:49
King of Kings - Revelation 17:14; 19:16; 1 Timothy 6:15
King of Nations - Revelation 15:3
King of the Jews - Matthew 2:2
Lamb of God - John 1:29
Last Adam - 1 Corinthians 15:45
Leader and Perfecter of Faith - Hebrews 12:2
Leader and Savior - Acts 5:31
Life - John 14:6; Colossians 3:4
Light - John 1:9; John 12:35
Light of All - Luke 2:32; John 1:4
Light of the World - John 8:12
Light to the Gentiles – Is 49:6, Lk 2:32
Lion of the Tribe of Judah - Revelation 5:5
Living Bread Come Down From Heaven – John 6:41
Logos - John 1:1
Lord - Luke 1:25
One Lord - Ephesians 4:5
Lord Both of the Dead and the Living - Romans 14:9
Lord God Almighty - Revelation 15:3
Jesus Is Lord - 1 Corinthians 12:3
Lord Jesus Christ - Acts 15:11
Lord of All - Acts 10:36
Lord of Glory - 1 Corinthians 2:8
Lord of Lords - 1 Timothy 6:15
Lord of Peace - 2 Thessalonians 3:16
Man of Sorrows –Isaiah 53:3
Master - Luke 5:5
Mediator - 1 Timothy 2:5
Messenger of the Covenant - Malachi 3:1
Messiah - John 1:41; 4:25
Mighty God - Isaiah 9:6
Morning Star - 2 Peter 1:19; Revelation 2:28; Revelation 22:16

Power and Wisdom of God - 1 Corinthians 1:24
Priest Forever - Hebrews 5:6
Prince of Life - Acts 3:15
 

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Cont'd . . .

Prince of Peace - Isaiah 9:6
Ransom - 1 Timothy 2:6
Redeemer - Isaiah 59:20
Radiance of God's Glory - Hebrews 1:3
Resurrection and Life - John 11:25
Righteous One - Is 53:11
Rising Sun - Luke 1:78
Root of David - Revelation 5:5
Ruler and Savior - Acts 5:31
Savior of the World - 1 John 4:14; John 4:42
Second Adam - Romans 5:14
Servant of the Jews - Romans 15:8
The Servant of the Lord - Isaiah 52:13
Son of Abraham - Matthew 1:1
Son of David - Matthew 1:1
Son of God - Luke 1:35
Son of Man - John 5:27
Son of Mary - Mark 6:3
Son of the Blessed One - Mark 14:61
Son of the Father - 2 John 1:3
Son of the Living God - Matthew 16:16
Son of the Most High - Luke 1:32
Son of the Most High God - Mark 5:7
Only Son of the Father - John 1:14
Source of God's Creation - Revelation 3:14
Spiritual Rock - 1 Corinthians 10:4
Living Stone - 1 Peter 2:4
Stone Rejected by the Builders - Matthew 21:42; 1 Peter 2:8
Stumbling Stone - 1 Peter 2:8
Suffering Servant, Servant of Yahweh - Is 42:1, 49:3
Sun of Righteousness - Malachi 4:2
Teacher - Matthew 8:19; Matthew 23:10
True God - 1 John 5:20
True Vine - John 15:1
The Way, the Truth, and the Life - John 14:6
The One Who Is, Was, and Who Is to Come - Revelation 3:7
Wisdom of God - 1 Corinthians 1:24
Wonderful Counselor - Isaiah 9:6
Word - John 1:1; 14
Word of God - Revelation 19:13


You look like a bear of a guy from your photo, and you obviously like to be cradled in the arms of your sweet mother" Mary'. Go for it. I won't despoil you of you cradling comfort.
Sweet dreams.
Mary IS my mother because Jesus gave her to me - and the rest f us, as our "Mother" (John 19:26-27).

By the way - I think you have me confused with someone else.
I don't have a photo of me as my avatar . . .
 
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First of all - Mary IS the Mother of God - unless you deny that Jesus is God.
And if you deny that - then HE has a problem with YOU:
Matt. 10:33

"But whoever denies me before men, I ALSO will deny before my Father who is in heaven."

Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Nothing about denying a earthly mother in that verse. or in the verse (1st John) bellow. Different kinds of goverment. those of mankind flesh giving birth to flesh but not the things of God Holy Spirit giving birth to a new incoruptible spirit . Two different kinds of progentitors (DNA and spiritual not seen )

1 John 2:22Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Ultimately we chose the proper teaching master. that of God not seen as the things of God or those of men flesh and blood . .seen, the things of men .

Peter the serial denier Or . .our the cheif apotles Jesus?

Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy against the Son of man .Jesus today that window id closed.jesus as the Son man was sent to do the will of his father and finsih the work of two . (no mother involved)

Mathew 16:22-23 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

I would ask. . Which teaching good master as Lord will you serve today?? Peter or God?
 
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Saying hi or hail is not a tittle it’s a greeting. Hellow.

Catholicism teaches that this queen entity they have named Mary as goddess that she alone received the fullness of Christ's grace. In the end clearly . . usurping the work that exclusively comes from the work of the unseen Holy Father (not the one seen in Rome) but of Father and Son’s faith (one God) their combined labor of Love. No father no Son .

The government of peace is reckoned as two working as one. Not 3500 patron saints the legion , the living pew sitters non venrable) seeking after the dead according to their image idols (teraphims) they are needed to put a face on the legion when it comes up (3500 and rising) .

No such doctrine of “denying the mother” .God who is not a man as us has no Mother or Father.. That is a pagan idea. Kings, fathers, prince’s, queens procreators of flesh. Not the father of new born again spirit life. God unseen is the father of all spirit life .it’s his Spirit that give rebirth to new creatures all human flesh profits for zero, nada nothing.

1 John 2:22-23Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

No mother missing in the above prescription of faith

Catholisicism teaches the rest of mankind receives a unknown remnant of grace . They must beleive when they die they have not received sufficient grace as to the end of faith “salvation” . There salvation is to wonder, wonder and wonder , mystery to mystery never to coming to end of faith.

1 Peter 1:8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the "glory" that should follow.

Believers who do receive the fullness of grace at the hearing of faith received the end from the beginning. Again those who sek after godeseses find wonders and attribute God's grace to this entity they call Mary . in order to produce a hierarchy of men called fathers that lord it over the faith of Christ giving it to sinful mankind.
This post is filled with so much ignorance and nonsense - it's difficult to know just WHERE to begin . . .

First of all - nobody said that "Hail" was a title.
HOWEVER - it seems that YOU don't seem to understand that the NT was NOT written in English. This is a common anti-Catholic blunder. For your information - it was written in Koine Greek. Now - in Luke 1:28, when the Angel greets Mary - the Greek text tells us that he didn' say, “Hail Mary, full of grace.” He said, Hail, Kecharitomene.”

This word, "Kecharitomene" translates as, “completely, perfectly, and enduringly endowed with grace.” It is a perfect participle and indicates a COMPLETED action with a PERMANENT result. In other words - Mary was COMPLETED in grace, whereas, Scripture tells us that the REST of us are STILL being worked on DAILY (2 Cor. 2:15, 7:1, Phil. 2:12, Heb. 12:14).

Secondly - YOU need to prove - from the Catechism of the Catholic Church that we "worship" Mary.
Otherwise, you need to admit that you LIED - and violated God's Commandment against bearing FALSE witness.

As to your claim the God is NOT a man - you are speaking heresy.
Jesus the Son, who is the 2nd Person in the Triune Godhead is bot MAN and GOD - and He has a MOTHER (Luke 1:31, Luke 1:42, John 2:1, John 19:26-28, Acts 1:11).

Jesus is GOD:
Isa. 9:6, John 1:1, John 20:28, Phil. 2:6, Col. 2:9, 1 Tim. 3:16, Heb. 1:8, Titus 2:13, Isa. 7:14, Isa. 9:6, John 1:1, John 8:58, John 20:28, 2 Cor. 4:4, Philip. 2:6, Col. 2:9, 1 Tim. 3:16, Heb. 1:8, Titus 2:13


Jesus is MAN:
Gen. 3:15, John 1:14, 1 Tim. 2:5, John 11:35, Phil. 2:7, Heb. 2:9, Gal. 4:4, Luke 3:38, Mark 6:3, Matt. 22:45, John 4:6, John 19:28, Luke 2:52, Heb. 4:15, 1 John 4:2, Luke 2:7

As usual - virtually EVERY heresy begins wit the misunderstanding of the nature of God.
And YOUR heresy is NO different . . .
 
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Matthew 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Nothing about denying a earthly mother in that verse. or in the verse (1st John) bellow. Different kinds of goverment. those of mankind flesh giving birth to flesh but not the things of God Holy Spirit giving birth to a new incoruptible spirit . Two different kinds of progentitors (DNA and spiritual not seen )

1 John 2:22Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Ultimately we chose the proper teaching master. that of God not seen as the things of God or those of men flesh and blood . .seen, the things of men .

Peter the serial denier Or . .our the cheif apotles Jesus?

Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy against the Son of man .Jesus today that window id closed.jesus as the Son man was sent to do the will of his father and finsih the work of two . (no mother involved)

Mathew 16:22-23 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

I would ask. . Which teaching good master as Lord will you serve today?? Peter or God?
And I wasn't making the claim that Matt. 10:33 was directly about Mary.
It's about WHO Jesus is - and He is both MAN and GOD.

Mary didn't give birth to His "human nature" - nor does ANY mother simply give birth to a "nature".
She gave birth to the person, Jesus, who is the GOD-Man - the 2nd PERSON of the Trinity.

As for your disdain of Peter - He WAS the leader, the chief Apostle - and Scripture makes NO bones about this.
As a matter of fact - if Peter WASN'T in charge . . .

a. Tell me WHY Jesus singled out Peter when He gave him the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven (Matt. 16:18-19) if did not put him in charge.

b. Tell me WHY Jesus asked Peter and Peter alone to feed His lambs and tend His sheep (John 21:15-19) if did not put him in charge.

c. Tell me WHY Jesus said that He prayed for Peter ALONE to strengthen the others and bring them back to faith (Luke 22:31-32) if did not put him in charge.

d. Tell me WHY Peter called "Protos" (First) in the Gospel (Matt. 10:2) if he was not in charge??

e. Tell me WHY Peter's name occurs first in all lists of apostles (Matt. 10:2; Mk 3:16; Luke 6:14; Acts 1:13) if he was not in charge??

f. Tell me WHY Peter is specified by an angel as the leader and representative of the apostles (Mark 16:7) if he was not in charge??

g. Tell me WHY Peter takes the lead in calling for a successor for Judas (Acts 1:22) if He was not in charge??

h. Tell me WHY Peter is the first person to speak (and only one recorded) after Pentecost, making him the first Christian to preach the Gospel in the Church (Acts 2:14-36) if he was not in charge??

i. Tell me WHY Peter works the first miracle of the Church Age, healing a lame man (Acts 3:6-12) if he was not in charge??

j. Tell me WHY Peter utters the first anathema (Ananias and Sapphira) affirmed by God (Acts 5:2-11) if He was not in charge??

k. Tell me WHY Peter is the first person after Christ to raise the dead (Acts 9:40) if he was not in charge??

l. Tell me WHY Cornelius is told by an angel to seek out Peter for instruction in Christianity (Acts 10:1-6) if he was not in charge??

m. Tell me WHY Peter's name is mentioned more often than all the other disciples put together if He was not in charge??

His name is mentioned 191 times (162 as Peter or Simon Peter, 23 as Simon and 6 as Cephas). John is the next with only 48 mentions, and Peter is present 50 percent of the time we find John in the Bible.
 
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