Forgiveness is to those who keep the commandments of the Lord.
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You can't say the same for OSASers because you've never experienced the miracle of salvation.
You are most correct when you say you can NEVER be unsaved because
throughout these forums, your responses and comments make you suspect that you were ever been saved.
To God Be The Glory
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What I meant by the title, if you will understand its context in the OP, was not that we are forgiven through keeping the commandments of the Lord; but that forgiveness is to those who will keep the commandments of the Lord; that is, those who are truly forgiven / born again, will keep the commandments of the Lord and if they don't keep them, it is a sign that they have not been forgiven / born again (see also 1 John 2:3-6).
So has any one read Romans 7:14-25 lately?
To God Be The Glory
What I meant by the title, if you will understand its context in the OP, was not that we are forgiven through keeping the commandments of the Lord; but that forgiveness is to those who will keep the commandments of the Lord; that is, those who are truly forgiven / born again, will keep the commandments of the Lord and if they don't keep them, it is a sign that they have not been forgiven / born again (see also 1 John 2:3-6).
So has any one read Romans 7:14-25 lately?
To God Be The Glory
mailmandan
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Romans 11:6 - And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.
mailmandan
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Amen! You know what they say. When all else fails play the straw man card.
Hi Jun. I don’t think I’ve ever met you.
I think I see why you brought the passage up. I think by your reply that you are saying...but we can’t keep Gods law. As Paul said, when he wants to do good he finds there is evil in him that doesn’t allow him to do what he knows is good and wants to do and makes him do what he does not want to do. I have seen that very thing in me too. I don’t WANT to respond in kind, I don’t WANT to return selfishness for selfishness or blow for blow or to count offenses and hold grudges when I’m treated badly. If I act just like everybody else, what good is that? How will that ever change anything?
Is that why you brought up the passage? Is it because you have seen the ruse of pretending that you are good and that you are better than others or are more loving than others?
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Gee, isn't that against forum rules?
Who made you the Judge? Do you know what the Bible says about "all liars"?
You really think God is glorified when you judge others as unsaved because they don't swallow your OSAS myth? I think OSASers have a really rough day ahead.
Matthew 7:1-2 (NKJV)
1 "Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.
Why should anyone be more concerned about what others do or not do? Should it not be enough to focus on what one does or does not do himself or herself? People should stop being busybodies and get on with the job of working on their own growth and transformation.
You should quote my whole post because I did say what I had seen in my own self.
Who will we talk with about our struggles if not each other?
Who will we talk with about our struggles if not each other?
Eternally Grateful
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Thanks for making it so easy
Romans 11:6
And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work
grace is unmerited, it is a gift, paid for by the giver,
you work for a wage, or a reward.
you don’t work for a gift, otherwise a gift is no longer a gift
Eternally Grateful
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This is the second time you have accused me of something not true, I pray you humble yourself, otherwise you just show your true colors
You work for a reward. By claiming you must work, your claiming you must earn salvation
a gift is freely given not earned by works.
Eternally Grateful
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Nope. You twisted the passage.
and by the way, if my gospel was so easy, you would accept it, that fact you deny it shows how hard it is.
I recommend you stop with the snide comments and just stick with the word..
What is sad I added johns words in his epistle which proved my point, and notice how you completely ignored them and came at me with no substance at all.
I don’t work to earn salvation, that would put me under law. And according to the law no one will make it.
Eternally Grateful
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Yep
but that does not mean one must work to earn salvation
a true christian will work BECAUSE they are saved
they do not work to get saved,
james spoke to people who claimed to have faith only, he never said they had faith, he called their faith dead. A dead faith has never saved anyone, that’s WHY there is no works, because the person was not born again, a child of satan can not work, they can act like a christian, but they have no fruit because their works are of the flesh not of the spirit
Eternally Grateful
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Your stuck on works
Let’s stick to faith. Because we are saved by grace through faith, not of works, lest anyone should boast,
works has no part in salvation, period.
Eternally Grateful
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1. I did not judge anyone
2. You where the one who judged someone, I tried to show you how you misread him
3. I have eternal life, if you want conditional life. Feel free. I will not stop you, neither will God,
Eternally Grateful
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Eternally Grateful
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You tell me, you lied about my brother and myself, so what does God say about liars?
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atpollard
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If I had to guess, it would be Enoch111 in the post just above hers (#469) in reference to post #467.
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