Under point "a" you say that Christ is a mediator of the New Covenant, but in point "c" you say the new covenant is yet future??? You can't have it both ways. LOL
And then you put the new covenant in some millennium? I tell you, my friend, if Messiah hasn't sealed the New Covenant with His Blood,(NOW IN THIS AGE) then we are lost in our sins and without hope.
I have other comments, but will save them.
May the Lord be with you and may He bless you,
Charles
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Hi charles , and I believe that many things in the Bible show a Newr View and a Far view .
Just to mentiona few !
#1 , Israel has been set aside for over 1900 years and Acts 13:48 ; 18:6 and 28:25 - 29 is proof ., and there is a GAP between Jews and Gentiles .
#2 , One of the most famous texts that Jesus read is in Luke 4:16: - 20 , and this concerns Israel .
#3 , Another gap , with a near view and far view is in Gensis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 .
#4 , and where do you see in Jan 17 , 2011 , where the New Covenant is in Operation today ???
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Hi charles , and I believe that many things in the Bible show a Newr View and a Far view .
Just to mentiona few !
#1 , Israel has been set aside for over 1900 years and
Acts 13:48 ; 18:6 and 28:25 - 29 is proof ., and there is a GAP between Jews and Gentiles .
#2 , One of the most famous texts that Jesus read is in
Luke 4:16: - 20 , and this concerns Israel .
#3 , Another gap , with a near view and far view is in Gensis 1:1 and
Genesis 1:2 .
#4 , and where do you see in Jan 17 , 2011 , where the New Covenant is in Operation today ???
This post has been edited by dan p: Today, 12:17 PM
Hey Dan:
I am not really sure what you mean by “I believe that many things in the Bible show a Newr View and a Far view .” I am guessing you mean “Newr” as this age? And “Far view” as future??
I am going to respond to your 4 points. (I will quote from the Complete Jewish Bible)
Point 1: You said that Israel has been “set aside for over 1900 years and then you show scripture references Acts 13:48; 18:6 & 285-29 and claim these scriptures are proof that there is a “gap” between Jews & Gentiles.
[sup]Acts 13:44[/sup][sup] [/sup]The next Shabbat, nearly the whole city gathered together to hear the message about the Lord; [sup]45 [/sup]but when the Jews who had not believed saw the crowds, they were filled with jealousy and spoke up against what Sha’ul was saying and insulted him. [sup]46 [/sup]However, Sha’ul and Bar-Nabba answered boldly: “It was necessary that God’s word be spoken first to you. But since you are rejecting it and are judging yourselves unworthy of eternal life—why, we’re turning to the Goyim! [sup]47 [/sup]For that is what Adonai has ordered us to do:
‘I have set you as a light for the Goyim,
to be for deliverance to the ends of the earth.’ ”
[sup]48 [/sup]The Gentiles were very happy to hear this. They honored the message about the Lord, and as many as had been appointed to eternal life came to trust. [sup]49 [/sup]And the message about the Lord was carried throughout the whole region.
Dan, I don’t need to quote much further than what I’ve shown above, Acts 13:44FF to show what you are calling “proof” to be in error.
Remember now, in Acts 13, the apostle Paul (was with John, Barnabas & probably Luke. Barnabas was from Cyprus.) is on Paul’s “first missionary journey.” Paul had just left Cyprus, (by the way, he preached Jesus to the whole Island, to Jews & Gentiles). Guess where he preached while on the island? The synagogues!! (Acts 13:5) Who was in the synagogues??? JEWS (and Jewish converts) What did he preach to them? JESUS! (Yeshua) then he left the island of Cyprus and went over to Perga in Pamphylia. (John got cold feet here in Perga and left Paul, Luke and Barnabus and went home, Jerusalem, to mama at this time. This will cause a big problem later between Paul & Barnabus, Acts 15:37ff. John is a cousin to Barnabas)
Ok, after they left Perga that went the Pisidian Antioch to another “synagogue” on the Sabbath day. By the way, Paul’s “custom” (Acts 17:2) was to always go to a synagogue, if there is one in the city. (To have a synagogue it required to have at least 10 Jewish men.)
In this city, Pisidian Antioch, Paul preached a long sermon detailing some history of the Jews leaving Egypt etc and then goes through some kings of Israel, such as David, (v.22) and in Acts 13:23 Paul tells the Jews “from the offspring (David’s offspring) of this man, ACCORDING TO PROMISE, God HAS BROUGHT ISRAEL A SAVIOR, JESUS.” (v.24)..after John had proclaimed before His coming a baptism of repentance to ALL THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL.
V. 26 Paul continues his sermon and calls the Jews, “sons of Abraham…” and also to those who fear God (Jewish proselytes) …TO US (JEWS) the word of this SALVATION IS SENT OUT.”
Now keep up with the context of this chapter, Paul is speaking to JEWS thus far in the synagogue.
Paul in verse 27 speaks of the Jews in Jerusalem and their rulers and how they didn’t recognize the Messiah, they crucified Him. (Vs 27-29) and verse 30, 31 Paul tells them that Yahweh raised His Son, Jesus.
Paul tells them in verse 31 that Messiah appeared to the apostles (who are now witnesses to the Jews, people.)
Now Paul, verse 32, tells the Jews, “and we (apostles) preach to you (Jews) the gospel of the PROMISE MADE TO THE FATHERS. (If you want to see who the “fathers” of the Jews are see Deut 1:8; Ex 3:15 and many more.)
This “promise to the fathers” is being FULFILLED at this time!! Not some time in the future! THIS AGE it is going on!
Paul now quotes Psalms 2:7ff and tells the Jews “…God HAS FULFILLED THIS PROMISE to our children (Jewish to core) …
Paul goes on and preaches more. Please read Acts 13:34ff and remember who Paul is speaking to in context.
As Paul finished this sermon/history, the Jews BEGGED him (and Barnabus) to speak again next Sabbath (in the synagogue).
Now the next Sabbath, word had spread to the whole city, and that is what showed up at the synagogue. (V. 44). This was made up of Jew and Gentile. This great crowd wanted to hear MORE about Yeshua! Of course, the old carnal Jews were jealous.
Paul addressed the jealous Jews and told them, the Jew was to receive the gospel first and that was the instruction from God. (v.46)
Since you (Jews, the carnal ones) reject Messiah, “…we (Paul & Barnabus) are turning to the Gentles.” (13:46) This would be a good time to look at Romans 1:16 where Paul says, “...I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the ‘power of God’ to EVERYONE who believes, TO THE JEW FIRST and also to the Greeks (Gentiles).
I think we forget that the assembly (church) stated in Acts 2 and many Jews were saved. Acts 6:7 tells us that many “priests” (Levites) obeyed the faith (gospel). For the first 10 years there was nothing in the church except converts of Jews (and Jewish proselytes). It wasn’t until Acts 10 that the first Gentile is converted, Cornelius.
Dan, I have written to much. I did not start out wanting to write this much. I will continue you other points (2,3) and end by talking about point 4 where you ask the question “…where the New Covenant is in Operation today ???”
The New Covenant has terms in it made by Yahweh. The New Covenant is spiritual in that when one “obeys” the terms of the New Covenant (some terms Rom 6:3ff; John 3:3; 3:5, Acts 2:38; 1Peter 3:20ff, etc) they become spiritual, that is, they are transferred from the kingdom of this world into the Kingdom of the Son. They are transferred from the kingdom of death to the Kingdom of Life. Many of the Jews, a remnant, obeyed the gospel. These Jews who obeyed the gospel are the one’s Yahweh made a covenant with. We Gentiles are grafted into that covenant.
May the Lord be with you and me,
Charles