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only Jehovah God faithful servants will be in God's kingdom
Since you try to remove Jesus/God and the eternal Hell from the Bible that doesn't look too good for you and your fellow JW's.

Revelation 22:19 (NKJV)
19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
 

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Make no mistake by whatever doctrine that you may hear or follow, the "visual" reality of "the prince of the power of the air"** being made free from his "chains of darkness" for a "short time", is now manifested on the earth, ever since the invention of the Light bulb in 1879 (147 years ago).

**Note: the source of all inventions of electricity is found in the air, as also are radiowaves, microwaves, x-ray technology, infrared technology, digital technology, etc.
"The prince of the power of the air" himself, is the genius behind all of the advanced technology that we use extensively, day in and day.
Eph. 2[2] Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
I don't think there's gonna be any doubt about when it happens.

"Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time."
 

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If we can't trust God's promises to provide for us then we can't trust Him for promises of salvation either.
I understand your point and I agree with the sentiment. However, we must always bear in mind that God allowed his son to go without food for 40 days; he allowed his son to be arrested, tortured, and put to death at the hands of the state. In the end, though, Jesus rose from the dead, and ascended to the right hand of the father, making intercession for the saints and awaiting the day when he can call his people home.

From this we learn that sometimes God takes us through suffering, BUT our suffering is not without purpose or meaning, even if we don't understand it at the moment. All we can do is remain alert, and be prepared both materially and spiritually but especially spiritually. Never lose hope and never give up.
 

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I don't think there's gonna be any doubt about when it happens.

"Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time."
Remember, satan's wrath is against God, and just like a little child, who is being restrained from his/her own will, the anger comes out against those things that are held to be precious by the restrainer.
 

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I understand your point and I agree with the sentiment. However, we must always bear in mind that God allowed his son to go without food for 40 days; he allowed his son to be arrested, tortured, and put to death at the hands of the state. In the end, though, Jesus rose from the dead, and ascended to the right hand of the father, making intercession for the saints and awaiting the day when he can call his people home.

From this we learn that sometimes God takes us through suffering, BUT our suffering is not without purpose or meaning, even if we don't understand it at the moment. All we can do is remain alert, and be prepared both materially and spiritually but especially spiritually. Never lose hope and never give up.
There is truth in what you said. However many Christians suffer unnecessarily because they don't believe God's promises. Too much church teaching of doubt and unbelief! We have MANY promises of God providing for us in the Bible. They're either true or not. John 3:16 is either true or it's not.

2 Corinthians 1:20 (NKJV)
20 For all the promises of God in Him are Yes, and in Him Amen, to the glory of God through us.

Psalm 37:25 (NKJV)
25 I have been young, and now am old; Yet I have not seen the righteous forsaken, Nor his descendants begging bread.
 

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There is truth in what you said. However many Christians suffer unnecessarily because they don't believe God's promises. Too much church teaching of doubt and unbelief! We have MANY promises of God providing for us in the Bible. They're either true or not. John 3:16 is either true or it's not.

2 Corinthians 1:20 (NKJV)
20 For all the promises of God in Him are Yes, and in Him Amen, to the glory of God through us.

Psalm 37:25 (NKJV)
25 I have been young, and now am old; Yet I have not seen the righteous forsaken, Nor his descendants begging bread.
Would you share with us some of the promises we tend to miss or ignore?
 

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I don't think there's gonna be any doubt about when it happens.

"Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time."
Evidently you DO doubt, because the evidence of satan's wrath is also tied in with his subtle benevolence.
His ULTIMATE goal is to save this planet, which IS his ONLY home, no matter how many people must be killed in the process.

It will be him who marshalls all the world to fight against Christ upon His Glorious return in flaming fire. At all costs, his motto to all is: "Save The Planet."

The 10H Beast, the Image of the Beast and the False prophet, having two horns like a lamb, are all the systems of satan's empire, being embodied by the people of the world, orchestrated by satan.
 

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Well I'm now very concerned after looking at @Amazed@grace post regarding forehead RFID chips. If these chips can be used for tracking people and transferring currency, then to answer your OP bluntly: Yes they amount to the mark of the beast in my opinion. I'll be on the lookout for that aspect from now on. The book of Revelation says it causes "all" to receive the mark. So I don't think receiving the mark necessarily means your going to the lake of fire. I'm not sure the beast amounts to all those that have the mark of the beast. I'm seeing the beast is him that causes all to receive his mark.

Revelation 13:16-17

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16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Actually its those who are not in the lambs book of life that will recieve it .
Just remember DO NOT touch this thing .
 

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Like in Job, Satan has to get God's permission. He had access to Earth back then but not totally. I think this is coming soon:
Revelation 4:1 (NKJV)
1 After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying, "Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this."

Revelation 12:7-12 (NKJV)
7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time."
And let us read again in revelation chapter seventeen . GOD has already purposed that the ten kings would surrender unto the beast .
Many folks forget that nigh the end A strong delusion gets sent unto all who rejected the love of the truth , that they would indeed
believe a lie and be damned .
As for the lambs , let us remember to be no partaker of other mens sins . Touch not the unholy unclean satanic
beast system thing . Our body is not even our own . Be ye holy in body and spirit . Touch not
the unclean device which will have us in the beast system . The key thing is
that they will put it in the temple of God . The chip is and has long been in credit cards , phones and etc .
That is not our body . However THIS is about tying it into our body . Which is and belongs to GOD .
We are not even our own . SO let none touch this nasty unclean thing .
 

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Evidently you DO doubt, because the evidence of satan's wrath is also tied in with his subtle benevolence.
His ULTIMATE goal is to save this planet, which IS his ONLY home, no matter how many people must be killed in the process.

It will be him who marshalls all the world to fight against Christ upon His Glorious return in flaming fire. At all costs, his motto to all is: "Save The Planet."

The 10H Beast, the Image of the Beast and the False prophet, having two horns like a lamb, are all the systems of satan's empire, being embodied by the people of the world, orchestrated by satan.
We've just got a glimpse of Satan. Yes he is very subtle. He knows his time is short and I believe the WORST is soon to come on humanity. How many nukes are ready to fire in an instant on Earth? Are you Preterist?

Matthew 24:21-22 (NKJV)
21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect's sake those days will be shortened.
 

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One of the most important:
Acts 16:31 (NKJV)
31 So they said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household."
Yes, this is the most important promise of all. And it saddens me when I discover that some churches are promoting wellness instead of salvation. Our culture has turned to feelings as the means to truth and knowledge and so some churches present a therapeutic gospel rather than the one true Gospel.

Can you think of other promises we miss?
 
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The key thing is
that they will put it in the temple of God . The chip is and has long been in credit cards , phones and etc .
Absolutely! Our flesh and blood bodies are the Temple of the Living God, although at the moment we are still flesh, through Christ, we are also spirit, being a whole new creature.

Therefore, during this temporary time of God DWELLING within us, partaking of His Divine nature, we are "the camp of the Saints", His temporary abode, until we are resurrected into the permanent likeness of the Immortality of Christ, upon His Glorious and fiery return.
 
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Just saw this, phone location tracking by big tech, and the RFID would be no exception:
Google employees shared concerns over location tracking, Arizona lawsuit reveals

An ongoing lawsuit against Google by the Arizona attorney general's office, which alleges that the tech behemoth has continued to collect location information even when users had turned tracking off, has revealed that some of Google’s own employees had concerns about the company's practices after a news report detailing the controversy was published.

"The reality is that the stuff we’ve uncovered is shocking," Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich told FOX Business in an interview last week. "It just confirms that Google is doing everything it can to spy on everyone it can, without providing any sort of notice to anyone."
 

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Jesus isn’t the angel Michael who got a promotion to being A God, but not the almighty God.

Jesus did not resurrect as an invisible spirit creature - He rose bodily and was seen by 500 people over 40 days, including the apostles, and He ascended bodily and visibly on a cloud from mount olive, and will return there bodily and visibly.

The scriptures tell us that all scripture is inspired by God to teach us the truth. So in scripture the spirit person who bears the name Michael is referred to as, "one of the chief princes," " the great prince who has charge of your [Daniel's] people," and as " the archangel."(Daniel 10:13;12:1; Jude 9) Michael means "who is like God" This Archangel Michael is the one who takes the lead in upholding Jehovah's sovereignty and destroying God's enemies. Why at 1 Thessalonians 4:16 is Jesus command regarding the resurrection to begin described as "the archangel call" and Jude 9 says the archangel is Michael. Do you think it's appropriate to liken Jesus commanding call to that of someone lesser in authority to him? Because I don't. It's reasonable for me to believe that the archangel is Jesus Christ. You and others will believe that their is someone else other than God and his only begotten son who has equal authority to them in regard to resurrecting the dead. I do not. So since an archangel call is what resurrects the dead, the archangel is Jesus Christ

Revelation 12:7-12 says that Michael and his angels would war against Satan and hurl him and his wicked angels out of heaven in connection with the conferring of kingly authority on Christ. Jesus is later depicted as leading the armies of heaven in war against the nations of the world. (Rev. 19:11-16) I think it's reasonable that Jesus would also be the one to take action against the one he described as “ruler of this world,” Satan the Devil? (John 12:31) Daniel 12:1 associates the ‘standing up of Michael’ to act with authority with “a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time.” That would certainly fit the experience of the nations when Christ as heavenly executioner takes action against them. So the evidence indicates that the Son of God was known as Michael before he came to earth and is known also by that name since his return to heaven where he resides as the glorified spirit Son of God.

Regarding the body Jesus was resurrected with after his death, 1Corinthians 15: 42-50 tells us he was resurrected with a spirit body. The only ones who saw Jesus after his resurrection were his Apostles and disciples, Including the 500. 1Corinthians 15:6 shows that the 500 which saw Jesus were brothers, believers. Ask yourself a question why is it that the Roman guards who were guarding Jesus grave saw the door to the grave open and saw the two angels but they didn't see Jesus. Only believers in Jesus saw him after his resurrection. Jesus, because he was resurrected a powerful immortal and incorruptible spirit being, could manifest himself with a fleshly body so his Apostles and disciples could see him. But Jesus was resurrected as a life giving spirit who was immortal and incorruptible. 1Corinthians 15:42-50 shows that Jesus was resurrected with a spiritual body. You can argue any way you want but Jesus was a human in the likeness of the first human Adam when he was on earth before his death, he was not immortal nor incorruptible before his death otherwise he would not been able to experience death. Being immortal means you're beyond death. Jesus wasn't resurrected as a human when he was resurrected because no human including Jesus has ever been immortal or incorruptible. Jesus wasn't resurrected with a human body, he sacrificed that human body willingly for mankind. Jesus himself said to his Apostles and disciples before he died that the world would never see him again and no unbeliever has. John 14:19

Regarding when Jesus ascended to heaven, only believers, Jesus Apostles and disciples saw this happen, the world in general, unbelievers, never saw this happen. Jesus second presence will be quietly, the world in general, unbelievers, will not believe this happens just as the Jews in general, unbelievers, didn't know Jesus ascension happened. Only believers will know that Jesus second presence has begun.
 

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The scriptures tell us that all scripture is inspired by God to teach us the truth. So in scripture the spirit person who bears the name Michael is referred to as, "one of the chief princes," " the great prince who has charge of your [Daniel's] people," and as " the archangel."(Daniel 10:13;12:1; Jude 9) Michael means "who is like God" This Archangel Michael is the one who takes the lead in upholding Jehovah's sovereignty and destroying God's enemies. Why at 1 Thessalonians 4:16 is Jesus command regarding the resurrection to begin described as "the archangel call" and Jude 9 says the archangel is Michael. Do you think it's appropriate to liken Jesus commanding call to that of someone lesser in authority to him? Because I don't. It's reasonable for me to believe that the archangel is Jesus Christ. You and others will believe that their is someone else other than God and his only begotten son who has equal authority to them in regard to resurrecting the dead. I do not. So since an archangel call is what resurrects the dead, the archangel is Jesus Christ

Revelation 12:7-12 says that Michael and his angels would war against Satan and hurl him and his wicked angels out of heaven in connection with the conferring of kingly authority on Christ. Jesus is later depicted as leading the armies of heaven in war against the nations of the world. (Rev. 19:11-16) I think it's reasonable that Jesus would also be the one to take action against the one he described as “ruler of this world,” Satan the Devil? (John 12:31) Daniel 12:1 associates the ‘standing up of Michael’ to act with authority with “a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time.” That would certainly fit the experience of the nations when Christ as heavenly executioner takes action against them. So the evidence indicates that the Son of God was known as Michael before he came to earth and is known also by that name since his return to heaven where he resides as the glorified spirit Son of God.

Regarding the body Jesus was resurrected with after his death, 1Corinthians 15: 42-50 tells us he was resurrected with a spirit body. The only ones who saw Jesus after his resurrection were his Apostles and disciples, Including the 500. 1Corinthians 15:6 shows that the 500 which saw Jesus were brothers, believers. Ask yourself a question why is it that the Roman guards who were guarding Jesus grave saw the door to the grave open and saw the two angels but they didn't see Jesus. Only believers in Jesus saw him after his resurrection. Jesus, because he was resurrected a powerful immortal and incorruptible spirit being, could manifest himself with a fleshly body so his Apostles and disciples could see him. But Jesus was resurrected as a life giving spirit who was immortal and incorruptible. 1Corinthians 15:42-50 shows that Jesus was resurrected with a spiritual body. You can argue any way you want but Jesus was a human in the likeness of the first human Adam when he was on earth before his death, he was not immortal nor incorruptible before his death otherwise he would not been able to experience death. Being immortal means you're beyond death. Jesus wasn't resurrected as a human when he was resurrected because no human including Jesus has ever been immortal or incorruptible. Jesus wasn't resurrected with a human body, he sacrificed that human body willingly for mankind. Jesus himself said to his Apostles and disciples before he died that the world would never see him again and no unbeliever has. John 14:19

Regarding when Jesus ascended to heaven, only believers, Jesus Apostles and disciples saw this happen, the world in general, unbelievers, never saw this happen. Jesus second presence will be quietly, the world in general, unbelievers, will not believe this happens just as the Jews in general, unbelievers, didn't know Jesus ascension happened. Only believers will know that Jesus second presence has begun.
Is Michael your savior? Jesus is my Savior.
 
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Since you try to remove Jesus/God and the eternal Hell from the Bible that doesn't look too good for you and your fellow JW's.

Revelation 22:19 (NKJV)
19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

I could less what your judgment is of me and other JW you're just a imperfect human and that's it.