new version of OSAS?

Eternally Grateful · May 31, 2021

Corlove13 said:
The problem is when one is told they are saved by believing something Jesus did to secure them so they can have heaven when they physically die. (But they may not be)

Instead of telling them to trust Jesus as who God through the prophets declared Him to be in order to be born from above; And then choose to follow Him.

One who was saved they knew it....they most likely came Alive at their new birth.....And honestly they can know when they are not walking in steps in light of the Faith of Jesus.

So if you really were saved why would you have to doubt? You knew it! And if ya want to continue to know you keep steps with the Spirit. It is knowledge that is the key. For eternal life is to know God and Jesus Christ who He sent.

3The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen for his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.

You see...so the problem is not telling the once saved they are lost when they know they are protected by their shepherd.

The problem is filtering scriptures through OSAS....and holding this doctrine of beliefs instead of Trusting Jesus Christ allowing the Spirit to lead one into all truth.

For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.

It is Jesus that is the beginning and the end...not the scriptures filtered through Osas.

Osas does not teach what you think. Although a few sects may teach this, they are not part of mainstream osas, again you are spreading lies about a group of people

Eternally Grateful · May 31, 2021

kcnalp said:
It warns CHRISTIANS to make sure they're saved? lol

Many people call themselves christian, does it mean they are saved?

Ps, I did not say the word christian, you twisted my words and again lied about what I said

it warned people to make sure they were saved, I doubt they do that in your church, I am sure you think everyone there is saved? Or is everyone their lost? Running the race to meat the mark of being saved vs being lost?

Eternally Grateful · May 31, 2021

kcnalp said:
You have proven what OSAS is here. You called me liar several times with ZERO proof. You have a license from Satan to sin!

Yawn

how old are you man?

Eternally Grateful · May 31, 2021

kcnalp said:
All NON OSASers are going to Hell?

People who reject the grace of Christ are non believers

yes they will go to hell

Eternally Grateful · May 31, 2021

kcnalp said:
You can't sin? lol

WHAT?

omg. You so DESPERATE to prove me wrong you pull stuff out of the air,

I never made that statement once again. YOU LIED about what I said,

Eternally Grateful · May 31, 2021

kcnalp said:
So you can sin but only the sins of your choice? lol

What do you think you do? You sin by accident? Get real dude. No one sins on accident, we do not commit oopsies. Oops I am sorry God I did not mean that, we did what we wanted, own up to it, and God to God with it. And confess, stop excusing your sin

Eternally Grateful · May 31, 2021

kcnalp said:
Satan LOVES that! He wants your company" forever and ever" in Hell.

He wants you too!he wants all of us

Eternally Grateful · May 31, 2021

kcnalp said:
I get it. You can sin your life away and still be an OSASer! But God didn't give you that license to sin. Satan did.

You can too, just tell Jesus your sorry and repent a million times and your ok

Eternally Grateful · May 31, 2021

kcnalp said:
OSAS sounds GREAT until Judgment Day! Don't lead your family to Hell! What's wrong with you???

Here is the difference between us and you

when we get to heaven and they ask why we deserve to be there, we will declair we do not deserve it, we have failed and anly by your mercy will we be let in

you on the other hand will pump your chest, and say your not like the ones who taught osas license to sin, you did not sin like them and you did all these works,

scripture tells us who will be justified, and who will be left wanting

he who has ears let him hear

Eternally Grateful · May 31, 2021

kcnalp said:
Maybe Satan created OSASers to lead their families to Hell?

It’s ok,he created nosas long before Jesus was born, it can be found in ever major religion on earth, in Islam, judaism, paganism, Hinduism etc etc. all religions based on works and how good a person is

true Christianity is the only religion which teaches our sin is so deep, our future is so hopeless that God himself had to come to earth and RECUE us, and he hung himself on the cross in our place that whoever believes in him will NEVER DIE but HAS ETERNAL LIFE

non of the world religions believe a person will NEVER DIE again after they are born again, and non believe eternal life is really eternal. They faith is in their works, and what they do not in God and what he did,

you should be proud you follow the man, and enter by the wide gate and not the few who enter the narrow gate

Jesus said I am the way the truth in the life, not you!

Eternally Grateful · May 31, 2021

kcnalp said:
Lost? You mean NON OSASer?

OSAS is clearly a Satanic doctrine to lead people and their families to the eternal Hell fire.

See, he can not even tel us what the doctrine teaches

because he does not know.

Eternally Grateful · May 31, 2021

JunChosen said:
Our source Book of Truth is the Bible. Where are your Scripture references? Act like you know what you are talking about and STOP giving Satan too much credit!!!

I'll give you a secret.. Satan has nothing on born again believers!

To God Be The Glory

Amen, who has overcome the world but children of God, how? By faith

it’s our faith, not our deeds that overcomes the world, as we trust Christ and his power wins every time

pits when we lack faith or have a moment of fleshly thinking that the world wins and we sin, as Romans 7 clearly teaches

Eternally Grateful · May 31, 2021

Blood Bought 1953 said:
Transform a man's life into what? Nothing? You teach a transformation that doesn't tranSform

If we Trust God and give credit to our Salvation to Nothing But The Blood, lived out by Resting in Paul’s Gospel Of Grace Found In 1Cor15:1-4, God will put His Spirit in us and HE will Transform us into the Image Of His Son.... Christianity 101.....

He who began a good WILL complete it

these people seem to not be able to comprehend that passage

Eternally Grateful · May 31, 2021

Corlove13 said:
Because they skip to Justification as all of Salvation
But..regeneration is left out....because it's Trusting Jesus that we are born from above.
Not trusting a belief Systen... [and it's what you start with that you finish with]

It's Jesus that is the beginning and the end...
Not a belief System- the interpretation of scripture through Osas.

So you can truly see what they believe by what they come back to. AND IT IS BELIEF THAT DETERMINES OUR BEHAVIOR.

So as a Baptist....This is what was said in my day...Believe Jesus died for your sins and rose and you are saved.[saved meaning heaven when you physically die]

But there was nothing mentioned about trusting Jesus...
And I am not saying that some OSASers can't stumble upon this in some way. But many I am sure have not, Because you can see in the way they answer questions. And THE ATTITUDE of boast.

MORE ABOUT I HAVE THE CORRECT DOCTRINE....THAN I AM TRUSTING JESUS.

THERE IS NO BOASTING IN CHRIST

But the Gosple message is the availability of the Kingdom ...life now in it...through trusting Jesus. We can live basically in this physical world but from the Spiritual kingdom.

We pray His kingdom come and will be done on earth as it is in heaven ....Where what God wants done is done.

That like faith...we move without seeing FOR
without faith it is impossible to please God...ABRAHAM MAY HAVE NOT KNOWN EVERYTHING BUT HE BELIEVED GOD WOULD BRING IT THROUGH.......THEREFORE HE MOVED IN FAITH

Remember God said to Abraham that He is His great reward....
THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVED HAPPEN....
WHEN GOD TOLD HIM TO WALK BEFORE HIM BLAMESLESS AND HE WOULD MAKE A COVENANT WITH HIM......THAT AS HE WALKED GOD WOULD DEAL WITH HIS SHORT COMINGS..HE WOULD PICK HIM UP
IF HE FELL. AND THIS IS TO ME is one aspect of THE LOVE OF GOD IN CHRIST.

SO ABRAHAM HAD TO WALK BLAMELESS BEFORE GOD, AND GOD WOULD MAKE A COV WITH HIM......SO THEN HOW DO you think WE receive ABRAHAMS COVENANT Blessings?
My thought is: We walk in the footsteps of Jesus.
Now Abraham, what was it that was credited for righteousness? Was it a belief with intent to follow...or He just believed God would do it all without His obedience to Him?

there is no regeneration without justification

one must be justified, the moment that happens regeneration occures,

once again, your slandering a group of people who you do not understand. Maybe there is a licentious church near you you are fighting against, well that’s fine, I would fight with you, but you putting a whole group of people under that group and slandering them as they do not believe what you are saying,

then you ignore them, I guess that makes you feel better?

GISMYS_7 · May 31, 2021

" regeneration without justification" =playing with words!! What is important is are you a believer who has confessed and repented of sin and has accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior?

Eternally Grateful · May 31, 2021

Corlove13 said:
But He does on those who may believe their saved and not.

Many people on both sides think they are saved and they are not

many who claim osas because they said a sinners prayer think they are saved, but they never repented, and come to true faith, they are hearers of the word not doers, and they think they can live however they want, and if someone does not disciple them they will continue believing they are saved when they are not

many who are nosas think they are saved, because they to said a sinners prayer or asked God into their heart, but they to, never truly repented nor have true saving faith, they began in the spirit but spend the rest of their lives perfecting it in the flesh, on judgment day, they will tell God of all the great works they did, sadly Jesus will say depart from me for I never knew you, because like the licentious, who in pride refused to repent they too refused to repent and demanded they get to God their own way, by their works,

Ferris Bueller · May 31, 2021

JunChosen said:
I was speaking about the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit which was committed by the Pharisees and Scribes by which there was no forgiveness in this life nor in the next.

So was I. The Pharisees looked right into the face of the irrefutable testimony of the Holy Spirit working in the miracles of Jesus, confirming Him to be the Son of God, and they still turned their face away in willful unbelief, calling the Spirit who testifies a lying spirit of the devil. That's the one sin God does not overlook.

Ferris Bueller · May 31, 2021

BarnyFife said:
Nice of you to say so, and I guess you know how I feel about your discernment. I'm just bummed out because my father-in-law wrecked his family and made shipwreck of his faith a few days ago.

Oh, so he was never a real believer to begin with. I'm being funny, but you and I know all too well the sad and hurtful reality of believers turning away from faith. When it happens close to home it causes a lot of pain and heartache.

Ferris Bueller · May 31, 2021

Tong2020 said:
Is that your answer to the question?

Tong
R3451

It depends. Is it a good answer?

Ferris Bueller · May 31, 2021

Tong2020 said:
Not allowed? By whom?

Tong
R3349

By God.

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