Christians - Remember the Fallen as VICTIMS, not Heroes of War!

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However you cannot deny that the first people who came to what is now the USA were (1) committed Christians (Pilgrims and Puritans) who wanted freedom of worship above all else and (2) that the Constitution of the United States is a unique document which was designed to give the citizens of the republic liberty and justice for all. The Bill of Rights was specifically meant to protect the freedoms of individuals from government tyranny.

No doubt that succeeding generations of leaders and politicians betrayed the Constitution and gheir oaths of office. But you are attempting to ignore this very significant historical fact.
Yes it was drafted after the form of government that was set in place by the countless native Americans that were murdered by them, as they practiced enslavement all in the name of their god.
 
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Victims - Heroes
Yes.

Memorial Day is important so we don't forget the art of warfare.

We are in a battle as we speak.
Who are the victims and who are the heroes in this war? Depends on what side of the political line you stand on.
It's not about the physical combat, it's about technique, strategy, manuevering..
and we are the pawns.
The pawns are placed on the chessboard and they move as they are led.
Each side believing and being made to believe that their side is righteous, their side is stronger..
it's about competition and we are put in the ring to fight.
It's not our fight.
It is not civilian against civilian.
It's government against government, gang against gang.

And what gets me, is the ones moving the pawns on the board of both sides,
they are sitting back drinking their tea and laughing.

Maybe it's monopoly to see who aquires the most property.
Hey, you sunk my battleship!
Games..

These people are sick sick sick,
and they don't care who dies, who cries, and who get's left behind :(

Heroes they are, because they believed and had faith that they were protecting God and Country.
Because if they didn't, there would be NO 1st Amendment today!
God Bless our fallen Heroes,
who died for our right to freedom and religion!
And God Bless those who still protect it today.

That even while those who laugh at the top are still playing games,
the people on the ground are fighting for Life.

God Bless
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Victims - Heroes
Yes.

Memorial Day is important so we don't forget the art of warfare.

We are in a battle as we speak.
Who are the victims and who are the heroes in this war? Depends on what side of the political line you stand on.
It's not about the physical combat, it's about technique, strategy, manuevering..
and we are the pawns.
The pawns are placed on the chessboard and they move as they are led.
Each side believing and being made to believe that their side is righteous, their side is stronger..
it's about competition and we are put in the ring to fight.
It's not our fight.
It is not civilian against civilian.
It's government against government, gang against gang.

And what gets me, is the ones moving the pawns on the board of both sides,
they are sitting back drinking their tea and laughing.

Maybe it's monopoly to see who aquires the most property.
Hey, you sunk my battleship!
Games..

These people are sick sick sick,
and they don't care who dies, who cries, and who get's left behind :(

Heroes they are, because they believed and had faith that they were protecting God and Country.
Because if they didn't, there would be NO 1st Amendment today!
God Bless our fallen Heroes,
who died for our right to freedom and religion!
And God Bless those who still protect it today.

That even while those who laugh at the top are still playing games,
the people on the ground are fighting for Life.

God Bless
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Our constitution, every right we have, came at a price. All signed and sealed in the blood of fallen patriots.
God bless and rest them all.
 

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I predict the last phase of Satan's wars will turn into the direct attack on Christians, more visibly, opening and undeniably; his real human enemy. And Satan has always used his hateful and loyal human foot soldiers for this purpose. And for the last few hundreds years at least, these are the real impersonators of ethnic Israel and 'Jews' projected on the world. They possess the same hateful, the same human evil spirit as Cain and the Pharisaic Rabbis. They are bloody thirsty killers of today and they mean to kill off Christianity once and for all!
They will try.
But before they succeed they will turn on themselves. It's in their nature.
They made a mistake... they have no unity.
They have a whole lot of different groups all wanting to be the successor or the victor.
But Christians..Patriots.. they unify.

As far as ethnicities or race or nationality,
I don't think that matters anymore.
This spiritual warfare we are in, it's universal.
It's more personal.
It's neighbor against neighbor.
Husband against wife.
Seperation of families because of politics.
This is the core battle.
This is the target.
Erasing the History of God.

Would Judaism have fallen under Romes authority anyways if Jesus hadn't come and renewed their beliefs?
The entire religious system was baught bu Rome. They placed their choices in the highest seats.
Like Herod or Caiaphas... these seats were given to them by Caesar or Pilate.

Eventually the only thing allowed to remain would have been paganism. And the monument to the "unknown" God,
that's what we would have today.

Jesus told them to WAKE UP!
Don't forget where you come from, who created you... who loves you.

We are in that battle today.
They are coming to take God away. From our daily lives, and from our memories.
If not this generation... because we are the lights which still remain.
But if we fail...
or our lights go dim...
Where will the next generation find truth?

Ah Mercy!

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The Declaration of Independence triune of pursuits first was penned to read as, life, liberty, and the pursuit of property.

"The U.S. Constitution recognized tribal governments and, starting with Thomas Jefferson, America's founding fathers pledged that their sovereignty was to be protected. The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly recognized tribal sovereignty in court decisions for more than 150 years."
Tribal Sovereignty: History and the Law - Native American Caucus of the California Democratic Party

One point that needs be said when the topic of tribal people's and "bad Caucasians" .

Tribal people were slaughtering one another long before todays "America" natives arrived.
Tribal wars, slavery, torture, rape, infanticide.

Tribal people learned scalping from the French traders. Native hair was a commodity.
And the identification of the plains natives of the Lakota as, "Sioux", is an insult from the French who corrupted a native Algonquin word that in both tongues translates as, " enemy".

With regard to slavery and the myth of again, "bad Caucasians", traveling to Africa to rundown indigenous people to ship to America as slaves, African tribes. As was the history too of indigenous north America's tribes, warred against each other. And they too were POW's.

Enemy Africa tribal members were slaughtered or made slaves of the conquering tribe.

When Europeans ventured to the continent they purchased these POW's and shipped them to the whole of the America's and elsewhere in the world.

Of all the manifests of those shipments it turns out only 4% of African POW's were shipped and off loaded into north America, I. E. the colonies of America.
The rest were sold to those in south and central America.
The majority of those POW's were sold to Brazil.

Of late there has evolved a new racist pejorative in the American nomenclature; " white privilege".
There are even those who think we should somehow apologize for being Caucasian.
Reverse racism isn't a sign of progress in 21st century America.

Just wanted to add that to the record. Stand for truth and the Fascist "cancel celture" may, prayerfully, become extinct.
We can only hope.
 
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The Declaration of Independence triune of pursuits first was penned to read as, life, liberty, and the pursuit of property.

"The U.S. Constitution recognized tribal governments and, starting with Thomas Jefferson, America's founding fathers pledged that their sovereignty was to be protected. The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly recognized tribal sovereignty in court decisions for more than 150 years."
Tribal Sovereignty: History and the Law - Native American Caucus of the California Democratic Party

One point that needs be said when the topic of tribal people's and "bad Caucasians" .

Tribal people were slaughtering one another long before todays "America" natives arrived.
Tribal wars, slavery, torture, rape, infanticide.

Tribal people learned scalping from the French traders. Native hair was a commodity.
And the identification of the plains natives of the Lakota as, "Sioux", is an insult from the French who corrupted a native Algonquin word that in both tongues translates as, " enemy".

With regard to slavery and the myth of again, "bad Caucasians", traveling to Africa to rundown indigenous people to ship to America as slaves, African tribes. As was the history too of indigenous north America's tribes, warred against each other. And they too were POW's.

Enemy Africa tribal members were slaughtered or made slaves of the conquering tribe.

When Europeans ventured to the continent they purchased these POW's and shipped them to the whole of the America's and elsewhere in the world.

Of all the manifests of those shipments it turns out only 4% of African POW's were shipped and off loaded into north America, I. E. the colonies of America.
The rest were sold to those in south and central America.
The majority of those POW's were sold to Brazil.

Of late there has evolved a new racist pejorative in the American nomenclature; " white privilege".
There are even those who think we should somehow apologize for being Caucasian.
Reverse racism isn't a sign of progress in 21st century America.

Just wanted to add that to the record. Stand for truth and the Fascist "cancel celture" may, prayerfully, become extinct.
We can only hope.
It’s all founded in, exploiting your neighbor.
 
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It’s all founded in, exploiting your neighbor.
Wherever it is that you allegedly reside in that "north America" noted in your profile, you are free to live that fable.
And your neighbors should have our sympathies for it.

And Hindu Gandhi in your profile pic? And quite contrary to the fable was no saint.
You're free to not believe that too.

America haters who live in the USA are that enemy within.
The Communist Chinese will be so glad to know their presence makes China's agenda easier.
 

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Wherever it is that you allegedly reside in that "north America" noted in your profile, you are free to live that fable.
And your neighbors should have our sympathies for it.

And Hindu Gandhi in your profile pic? And quite contrary to the fable was no saint.
You're free to not believe that too.

America haters who live in the USA are that enemy within.
The Communist Chinese will be so glad to know their presence makes China's agenda easier.
Thanks for giving me your permission.
 

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However you cannot deny that the first people who came to what is now the USA were (1) committed Christians (Pilgrims and Puritans) who wanted freedom of worship above all else and (2) that the Constitution of the United States is a unique document which was designed to give the citizens of the republic liberty and justice for all. The Bill of Rights was specifically meant to protect the freedoms of individuals from government tyranny.

No doubt that succeeding generations of leaders and politicians betrayed the Constitution and gheir oaths of office. But you are attempting to ignore this very significant historical fact.
Yes, I will not disagree with what I also have known to be true as you described. Although this evil came across the channel and the Atlantic as black shadows in the Christians' wake.

The Constitution of the States is not perfect, although a great working God-centric set of thoughts, rules for living, and a path to prosperity and security under our true God. And it is really impossible to continue in the long run with the evil creeping in over time....as described as an appetizer in this thread.

Bless you Enoch....I'm a staunch Christian and first a patriot for Christ and then our brethren as you and other, and then the rest in this country and other like-minded nations, in that order
 
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Curious on the topic of defending your country...how many condemning the action would see it as perfectly natural to defend their property in whatever action necessary if threatened by intruders? Killing if necessary? Is it honorable to defend your property by giving a warning shot first and then opening fire if the threat doesn’t leave? Get sometimes our country is the intruder. Sometimes we are the intruders. But don’t get contradicting self righteous it is wrong to defend yet having a stock pile of bullets and a gun ready on the hip, yet against it.
 
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They will try.
But before they succeed they will turn on themselves. It's in their nature.
They made a mistake... they have no unity.
They have a whole lot of different groups all wanting to be the successor or the victor.
But Christians..Patriots.. they unify.

As far as ethnicities or race or nationality,
I don't think that matters anymore.
This spiritual warfare we are in, it's universal.
It's more personal.
It's neighbor against neighbor.
Husband against wife.
Seperation of families because of politics.
This is the core battle.
This is the target.
Erasing the History of God.

Would Judaism have fallen under Romes authority anyways if Jesus hadn't come and renewed their beliefs?
The entire religious system was baught bu Rome. They placed their choices in the highest seats.
Like Herod or Caiaphas... these seats were given to them by Caesar or Pilate.

Eventually the only thing allowed to remain would have been paganism. And the monument to the "unknown" God,
that's what we would have today.

Jesus told them to WAKE UP!
Don't forget where you come from, who created you... who loves you.

We are in that battle today.
They are coming to take God away. From our daily lives, and from our memories.
If not this generation... because we are the lights which still remain.
But if we fail...
or our lights go dim...
Where will the next generation find truth?

Ah Mercy!

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Very thoughtful and more encompassing that my current thought of this section of world evil.

We must return to our first love, especially in these these troubling times.
As I just responded to @Enoch111 I am a Patriot, not in the worldly sense though. I am one first for my Lord and Saviour, and then to you as one of my spiritual and lasting kin and family. I will fight tooth and nail for/ to do the will of the Father and the cause of Christ Amen.

Luv you in Christ...APAK
 

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Across the country, communities are slowly starting to open up just in time for summer. The first long weekend of the season is at hand. This extended Memorial Day weekend, Americans joins the nation in remembering and honoring the lives and sacrifices of the fallen U.S. service members from America’s beginning to today. These brave men and women of the United States military made the ultimate sacrifice in service of our country.

The stories of bravery will not soon be forgotten. Many family members of fallen soldiers have chosen to continue their service member’s legacy by volunteering with the Red Cross. Through the Red Cross, they help military families in need of relief. These Gold Star families continue to share the story of their loved ones through their actions.
 

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Very thoughtful and more encompassing that my current thought of this section of world evil.

We must return to our first love, especially in these these troubling times.
As I just responded to @Enoch111 I am a Patriot, not in the worldly sense though. I am one first for my Lord and Saviour, and then to you as one of my spiritual and lasting kin and family. I will fight tooth and nail for/ to do the will of the Father and the cause of Christ Amen.

Luv you in Christ...APAK
Watch the narratives.
First there was no congregating. But the people pushed back.
There is antagonists causing friction between the Jewish and Muslim communities.
Asian hate, White hate, Black hate, hate of immigrants whether legal or illegal,
hate the schools and the teachers, hate the parents, turn kids against kids.
Even the churches are all at odds with each other.

This is the spiritual armegheddon.
I know people looking for the physical manifestation,
but we are told that it begins in the heart..

If you hate your brother you have already commited murder. Why?
Because actions follow thoughts and intentions.
What we are seeing now are the thoughts and intentions being put into motion.

But the ultimate goal is to replace God.
Babylon..
Come out of her my people.. is not a "place", it's who you are and how you interact with society.

Interesting times for sure.
Don't waiver, stand strong
Keep Faith and Hope Alive.
God Bless
 
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Then was Jesus a victim of the war against evil or a hero?
 
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Watch the narratives.
First there was no congregating. But the people pushed back.
There is antagonists causing friction between the Jewish and Muslim communities.
Asian hate, White hate, Black hate, hate of immigrants whether legal or illegal,
hate the schools and the teachers, hate the parents, turn kids against kids.
Even the churches are all at odds with each other.

This is the spiritual armegheddon.
I know people looking for the physical manifestation,
but we are told that it begins in the heart..

If you hate your brother you have already commited murder. Why?
Because actions follow thoughts and intentions.
What we are seeing now are the thoughts and intentions being put into motion.

But the ultimate goal is to replace God.
Babylon..
Come out of her my people.. is not a "place", it's who you are and how you interact with society.

Interesting times for sure.
Don't waiver, stand strong
Keep Faith and Hope Alive.
God Bless
Where have you been Ziggy? You have laid out more spiritual fruit for my soul. And this one really interests me.

I would like to investigate more from this all encompassing angle of yours that you've presented here. Yes, this evil is an Armageddon of massive proportions being unleased before our very eyes, like a huge dam busting up.

Coincident or not, definitely odd though, I had a dream last night that I could not figure out. There was some wood framing work that was starting to come apart. I evidentially constructed it before and was proud of its robustness and design. I was not alarmed by it however. It was not fastened securely upon further inspection and seemed to quickly rot and become thoroughly wet. They I was presented with a different view from a side of an unknown house. It was wood framed. I could see water filling up inside and the weight and pressure pushed a part of the front side out and the water spilt out as one giant gush.

Yes, from the person, family and community level to the national and international landscape. We, especially Christians, are being hated for all kinds of differences - color, intellect, spirituality/religion, thoughts, words and actions on a multitude of subjects, even seen on this OP. Satan is on an all out attack on believers, his main target.

Yes, these thoughts of hate and evil on all these things, that were somewhat contained, are now being unleashed, all put into motion at one time, as a gigantic wall of water flooding the lands/nations of the earth.

Definitely intriguing and I believe a real spiritual new advent for all Christians to take strict note of and obedience to, that begins in their hearts as the Spirit provide guidance and nourishment and shelter. Ensure it is 'clean' as we walk in Christ. Or for non-believers, now is the time to repent and seek cleansing in the heart, by Christ's Spirit.

Rev 22:11 (NIV)
"Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy."

Bless you, APAK
 
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Then was Jesus a victim of the war against evil or a hero?
Yes

A victim of the power of darkness that had rule for an hour.
A hero for overcoming the power of darkness with light.

Victim:
Luk 22:53 When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

Hero:
Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

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Yes

A victim of the power of darkness that had rule for an hour.
A hero for overcoming the power of darkness with light.

Victim:
Luk 22:53 When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

Hero:
Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

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Close to the very words I would have used....He was both a victim and a true hero to be reverenced and honored as our Lord and Saviour.