How Will Life Be On Earth When Jesus Returns To Rule For 1000 Years?

whirlwind said:

You mistake "can't" for "won't." I repeat...please see what is written....

Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

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Are you under THE LAW or the New Covenant? Or do you even know? Christians are not under THE LAW. THE LAW was nailed to the cross.

Colossians 2:14 (NKJV)
[sup]14 [/sup]having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

THE LAW is obsolete.

Hebrews 8:13 (NKJV)
[sup]13 [/sup]In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete.

So then, which Covenant are you under?

Duckybill said:

Are you under THE LAW or the New Covenant? Or do you even know? Christians are not under THE LAW. THE LAW was nailed to the cross.

Colossians 2:14 (NKJV)
[sup]14 [/sup]having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

THE LAW is obsolete.

Hebrews 8:13 (NKJV)
[sup]13 [/sup]In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete.

So then, which Covenant are you under?

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Please stop. This is silly. If you feel free to break laws through your ignorance of the written word then....so be it. Just remember you are teaching others to break the law. There are consequences to such actions.

Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.



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whirlwind said:

Please stop. This is silly. If you feel free to break laws through your ignorance of the written word then....so be it. Just remember you are teaching others to break the law. There are consequences to such actions.

Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

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You obviously don't know which Covenant you are under.

Galatians 3:10 (NKJV)
[sup]10 [/sup]For as many as are of the works of THE LAW are under the curse;

[quote name='Eccl.12:13how life on this planet will be when Jesus is in charge? Let's read how long the people of the earth will live during Christ's 1000 year rule.[/size]

Isa.65
[17] For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
[19] And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.

Hi Eccl , and when is the new heavens and new earth made ;

#1 , at the start of the Millennium or 1000 reign of Jesus ?

#2 , Or at the end of the Millennium or 1000 reigh of Jesus ??

#3 , And how long is the Millennium reign of Christ to LAST ??

Harold Camping says it will be in the New Earth.

I agree.

I just see the mechanics of how the transition is made differently than Harold Camping..

People superficial read chapters like 2 Peter 3 and use no insight into what it says. Yet the explanations are all in the Old Testament.

Believers in the rapture fearfully believe in the rapture, because they see no other way God can save them from an earth that is to be destroyed in fire. They read 2 Peter 3:7 "But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men" and assume that the only reason it names "ungodly men" is that they won't be here.

But I have news for all, What Peter was talking about at 2 Peter chapter 3 is the high point of what has been burning for a long time: Luke 12:49 "I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?"

I am going to tell you something most of you will hate me for, even if only secretly: Even as Jesus spoke in parables that only his disciples could understand, so also the Bible is written like those parables intentionally so that only Christ's true disciples can understand it.

So then you say, Never could that be!!! Never would God do that to us! But he does and he has. And he did so because to understand it one would have to completely humble their self. We have to get rid of thinking we know before we are completely open to hearing his word.

That torments many when I tell them that. But it is not me tormenting them, it is their own pride. Because I am only trying to help them. My hopes for them is that they might escape the torment I had to go through before I learned it.

1 Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

Paul was not at all kidding there.

The Bible is designed by God to be interpreted different ways depending on whether or not one approaches it completely emptied and humble, or proud and subtly worshiping their own intelligence.

I stand before God in clean conscience, I have not lied to you. And if one thinks about it, it only makes sense that he would do that. If he taught His truth to those who love wickedness they would only be more equipped to deceive others.

The idea that no one can resist God's love is a nice fluffy thought, but it is not true. If it were true and he did not then he would be setting the example for us to do the same when it comes to our helping others. The idea does not harmonize with a solid understanding of love or justice and flies in the face of His mercy.

Which one of you will not help your child if you could?

Some people really have no love of righteousness and no desire to begin to. Its not a fluffy fact like the other belief, but it is true.

See how easy we are.

whirlwind said:

Previously I mentioned commandments, ordinances, laws and statutues. Many were a shadow leading us to Christ. They were fulfilled in Him. Blood sacrifice was one of those. As for executions....yes we should execute proven murderers and rapists. What of adultery?

Leviticus 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death​

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Because Jesus died for our sins, if one repents and goes "and sins no more," then their sins are forgiven. However, if no repentance and change of lifestyle then...they are put to death...spiritual death.






Good, for if that is true then you have put on Christ. The law lives in you.






No, He said, "the children of Israel" and we, as Christians are the house of Israel. He was sent to us....He found us and we carry His name.

Matthew 15:24 But He answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.​

The law and commandments were nailed to the cross with Him? No, you are mistaken.....

Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to His cross;​

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My men's breakfast study group has been examining the book Millenial Maze by Stanley J. Grentz. In this work of eight chapters, Mr. Grentz outlines and explains the background and debate for each of the several different versions of millenialism.

Millenialism basically states that Jesus will rule the earth for one thousand years. The different versions of it result in different ideologies and non-essential doctrines. Nevertheless there is furious debate among Christians as to the differences between them.

My problem with millenialism is that all the different versions of it are based on a single passage of scripture; Revelation 20. All the exegetical statements ignor the prophet Daniel (ch 2).

And in the days of those kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed, nor shall the sovereignty thereof be left to another people; but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
Dan 2:44

I must confess that I do not know what the reference to one thousand years actually means, since Daniel clearly says that the coming kingdom will stand forever.

Most versions of millenialism end with the appearance of a major character in the story. Either Jesus returns to earth, as in amillenialism, or satan is unbound or released from his pit as in other versions of millenialism. What happens after that? The ideology falls apart at this point.

Perhaps the unsettling events at the end of the Rev 20's thousand years are but a precursor to a grand political eternity on earth or perhaps they portend a general destruction of earth and humanity. Millenialism does not say.

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I must confess that I do not know what the reference to one thousand years actually means, since Daniel clearly says that the coming kingdom will stand forever.

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Actually the 1000 years refers to the regeneration period of the new earth, after God has wiped away the opposition of this current earth and its world.

New heavens is an expression that refers to the government over man. Here is an example: Leviticus 26:19 "And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron, and your earth as brass:" God is there telling them that he will let them become ruled over by their enemy nations like iron being used to beat and shape the softer brass.

So the earth of old and its ruling heavens are passed away at the point the 1000 years begins. For the next 1000 years the regeneration of earth is on full speed. Though I have often mused that the number 1000 which is 10 to 3rd power might indicate that the length of that regenerative period will be whatever God wants it to be as He sees fit by His wisdom. I feel it is a bit presumptuous of we clay vessels to put limits on God as opposed to understanding that the most high is ruler in the kingdom of mankind and he will do as he sees fit.

Nothing unholy can exist in God's kingdom. That is a hard fast rule which we must have respect for. It takes that 1000 years (whatever time it represents) to bring this earth and all life upon it back to the finished standard of his holiness. Yet the 1000 years is the new earth in its infant state, the old heavens and earth having passed away at the end of the great tribulation.

2 Thessalonians 1:6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

As 2 Thessalonians 1 proceeds on there we see why at the conclusion of the 1000 years any who fail the final test of God's regenerated earth are cast to a place where (Revelation 20:10) "... where the beast and the false prophet are ...". The devil also as he was merely abyssed the whole time until the hour of the finish testing. Those that are already there were there as a result of God's wrath which he used to end the great tribulation and clear away this old heaven and earth and its opposition.

God is making sure nothing unholy gets into His kingdom to remain forever.

This also is something that ought to not be ignored. It is urgent that we identify these wise men of Babylon for it changes our entire course: Daniel 2:17 Then Daniel went to his house, and made the thing known to Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah, his companions:
18 That they would desire mercies of the God of heaven concerning this secret; that Daniel and his fellows should not perish with the rest of the wise men of Babylon.

Daniel 2:24 ¶Therefore Daniel went in unto Arioch, whom the king had ordained to destroy the wise men of Babylon: he went and said thus unto him; Destroy not the wise men of Babylon: bring me in before the king, and I will shew unto the king the interpretation.

Daniel told us much that many if not most fail to appreciate.