You are in obedience to Peter and are truly saved.
You have not abandoned Acts 2:38 like the others.
I wish the others would follow your example, because it is hard to kick against the pricks.
Acts 2:38 has been abandoned by Christianity
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You have not abandoned Acts 2:38 like the others.
I wish the others would follow your example, because it is hard to kick against the pricks.
Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost” (Acts 2:38). This is one of the most confusing, intriguing and debated Scriptures in the Bible. Much of the confusion comes from searching man's commentaries instead of “search the Scriptures” as Jesus told us in John 5:39.
Eternally Grateful
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The confusion comes from the english translation. Not from what is written itself. Reading the english it does appear to say one must both repent and be baptized to receive the gift of the spirit
The issue is who Peter was speaking in each command.
Peter told EVERYONE to repent.
He only spoke to individuals about being baptized. It was not a command given to everyone.
So who was he talking too and why. This is what we must determine
Eternally Grateful
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Acts 4:13 Now when
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.... (but the acts skippers replied, naw we be followers of Jesus)
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.(but the acts skippers replied, no we be saved by grace alone, and absolutely nothing else)
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.(again, the acts skippers reply, do ye not know your very own thoughts, your focus is upon the unbelieving and not the believing and baptism)
Eternally Grateful
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So we just skip John. Where John and Jesus both multiple times say he who believes is not condemend, He who does not believe is condemned ALREADY?
How they said whoever believes has eternal life
How they said whoever believes has passed from death to life
How they said whoever believes will not be put to shame
And how not once did they mention the physical act of baptism.
mailmandan
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Amen! (Acts 10:43-47; 11:17,18; 13:39; 15:8,9; 16:31; 26:18; Romans 1:16; 3:24-28; 5:1; 10:4; 1 Corinthians 1:21; Ephesians 2:8; 1 John 5:13 etc..) further refutes their claims of salvation by water baptism. Works-salvationists only care about isolating pet verses and building doctrine on them in order to accommodate their biased church doctrine, then ignoring the rest. It’s called flawed hermeneutics.
Eternally Grateful
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Amen, They call us Acts skippers.. Just because we reject their faulty interpretation does not mean we skip anything
And hereby we see your bias. You conveniently omitted the "baptism"
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved...
Shame on you!
Eternally Grateful
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Nope I did not omit anything. I just posted what John said. Is it your bias that you can’t show Me where the word baptize is in the verses I posted?
oh and Ps. I did fully believe and because of it I was baptized by God himself. So mark 16 was fulfilled in me
I later as a new disciple was baptized in water as Jesus Commanded in Matt 28
These verses debunk Acts 2:38, Acts 8, Acts 10 and Acts 19?
The Bible debunks itself or someone is not harmonizing it?
Eternally Grateful
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No
Your just not interpreting it correctly
The passages you give do not debunk the ones mailmandan gave. Yet if we interpret them the way you do. there is a huge contradiction.
mailmandan
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You are in desperate need of properly harmonizing scripture with scripture before reaching your conclusion on doctrine.
The contradiction came from Dan that did not include Acts 2,8,10 and 19.
He is a mess.
Make sure you include Acts 2:38, 8:16, 10:43 and 19:5 next time, Dan.
You conclusion will change dramatically.
Eternally Grateful
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Acts 2:38 has been abandoned by Christianity?
Highly doubtful! Many "christians" Still Insist upon it! But:
Q: Does God Require {physical} water baptism, Today, In HIS
Dispensation of PURE GRACE? The answer surprises Many!:
Precious friend(s):
{Physical} Water is for the remission of sins, and ONE Of God's THREE
Requirements For The NATION OF ISRAEL to be inducted into the
"priesthood!" {see #'s 4, 9, and 10} here:
13 Bible baptisms
From CHRIST To HIS TWELVE, on the earth! { Currently “On HOLD!” }
Prophecy/Law
------------------------------------------------------------------
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15 KJB!) From “Things That DIFFER!”:
-------------------------------------------------
MYSTERY/GRACE
From CHRIST To HIS one, From Heaven!! { Currently ACTIVE!}:
The Spiritual {water} is the "Washing Of water By The WORD"
(Ephesians 5 : 26 KJB!), The "Washing Of Regeneration"
(Titus 3 : 5 KJB!)
This Is The OPERATION Of God, The ONE BAPTISM "BY" The Holy Spirit
(Ephesians 4 : 5; 1 Corinthians 12 : 13 KJB!) {see #13} here:
13 Bible baptisms
Precious friend(s), please Be Very Richly Blessed!
Highly doubtful! Many "christians" Still Insist upon it! But:
Q: Does God Require {physical} water baptism, Today, In HIS
Dispensation of PURE GRACE? The answer surprises Many!:
Precious friend(s):
{Physical} Water is for the remission of sins, and ONE Of God's THREE
Requirements For The NATION OF ISRAEL to be inducted into the
"priesthood!" {see #'s 4, 9, and 10} here:
13 Bible baptisms
From CHRIST To HIS TWELVE, on the earth! { Currently “On HOLD!” }
Prophecy/Law
------------------------------------------------------------------
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15 KJB!) From “Things That DIFFER!”:
-------------------------------------------------
MYSTERY/GRACE
From CHRIST To HIS one, From Heaven!! { Currently ACTIVE!}:
The Spiritual {water} is the "Washing Of water By The WORD"
(Ephesians 5 : 26 KJB!), The "Washing Of Regeneration"
(Titus 3 : 5 KJB!)
This Is The OPERATION Of God, The ONE BAPTISM "BY" The Holy Spirit
(Ephesians 4 : 5; 1 Corinthians 12 : 13 KJB!) {see #13} here:
13 Bible baptisms
Precious friend(s), please Be Very Richly Blessed!
mailmandan
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No contradiction at all and those passages of scripture do no negate (Acts 3:19; 4:4; 5:14; 5:31; 10:43-47; 11:17,18; 13:39; 15:8,9; 16:31; 26:18)
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