Jerusalem Is The Whore, Mystery Babylon The Great Of Revelation Chapter 17

Truth7t7 said:

He does, and were not the heavens and earth

Unless you frying on a little (L)ucy In The (S)ky with (D)iamonds

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Lucy! You gots some ‘splainin’ to do!

R.R.

Curtis said:

Lucy! You gots some ‘splainin’ to do!

R.R.

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Ok, the heavens declare the glory of God, that simple. You guys are saying wait for it, it’s a futuristic event.
You see He has placed a tabernacle within them for the Son, which is a bridegroom coming out of His chamber, to run a race. Like Paul.

When you begin to become Christ centered and not self centered, then you’ll declare His Glory.

Curtis said:

It’s not the church that Jesus saves when He returns and lands on Mount Olive in Zechariah 14, but Jerusalem.
It’s not the church that Paul refers to in Romans ch. 11:1-2 when he says God has not cast out His people, Israel. Thus the nation of Israel remain His people.
It’s not the church Paul says in Romans 11 is ungodly and in unbelief now, except for a remnant, but the entire nation of Israel alive at the time of Jesus’ return, who sees Him coming out of Zion after delivering Jerusalem from destruction, will be saved - which means they will see Him, realize He’s the real messiah, and will believe and be saved.
And there’s ten or more scriptures where God promises He will gather His people and bring them back to their land that He gave them - but you’re claiming the wrong people came back home in 1948.
Replacement theology is not true.

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Hey the so called Zionist was a creation of Rothschild's who created WW2 to create the so called State. not to mention that they brought about the great depression and 90% of the Jews despised the so called Zionist, then they put their man Hitler into power and he got rid of the Jewish Press and only Zionist Press was allowed to print ? get that ! the Zionist were not persecuted by Hitler they were who put him in power and who do you think gave him the money to power up Germany Rothschild's and his world Bank Co buddy's with the Zionist.
A bankrupt Germany with 200% inflation that does the biggest turn around in the history of the world by far and becomes the greats threat economic threat that the UK can se that they are a cooked duck Germany was going to wipe the floor with them economic wise.
Also look at the war preparation how the hell could a busted arse Germany from 1933 turn around and pay for all that ? it's truly astounding if you know of half what was built, still today we are not allowed to know many things, they have got tunnels that go for miles that no one is allowed to explore behind the walls blocked off and places that they claim they know nothing about what it was for. come on ! what nonsense they know.

We are all being lead astray, that is the way of this world in fact deceptions and delusions Bible points this out and do you know what the main point of Christianity is ? that you become born again, that's it ! that is the biggest threat to this world that the Satanist fear, why is that, well they will be exposed ! like the rats that they truly are. they love the darkness because without such they will be seen for what they truly are.

Lord Rothschild threatened the UK Monarch out right ! because he had all the money, they own half of the worlds money, the worlds richest men ilk Bill Gates etc is just a piss ant to the power of the Rothschild's, even Pope Frances conceded to Lord Rothschild in the same manner as his own do coming to him and kissing his ring as he sits in the chair. how may Roman Catholics seen that take place on TV and did not get it ! here is the Pope outright rejecting Jesus Christ in fact ! and giving his authority to a man as his god, who just happens to be the richest man in the world by far, talk about depraved total morons.

That flag that the Jews have now, when it was first created the Jews were angered by it in fact, it's a blight as St Stephen exposed such in the Bible as being.
A truly worthy Israelite would have the Menorah !

Truth7t7 said:

1. When Jesus Christ returns it will be "Fire Time" as this existing earth is "Dissolved" by his fire
2. It will then be the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, for eternity

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I believe that you are correct on #1, and are half correct and half wrong on #2
1. Correct. A simultaneous event.
2. Since the day of Jesus resurrection, and His Ascension following, does Jesus need or require a literal NEW earth planet?

Iows, given the fact that He is now Immortal, having the ability to be physical and/or Spirit at any time, He does not have to eat or sleep.
Now, to us is His promise, that we shall be changed, and resurrected after His Likeness.
Again, if Jesus now does NOT need or require an earth like planet, why should we?
I propose this:
Jesus Himself is the New Heaven, and
we ourselves individually,
are the New earth, in which God Himself will permanenty dwell in ever after.
This sums it up:
John 14[3] And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; [so] that where I am, there ye may be also.
So then, where is Jesus NOW?
Yes, we all do know the Biblical answer!

^ please reference 1 Corinthians 15:44-49 for the above.

Earburner said:

I believe that you are correct on #1, and are half correct and half wrong on #2
1. Correct. A simultaneous event.
2. Since the day of Jesus resurrection, and His Ascension following, does Jesus need or require a literal NEW earth planet?

Iows, given the fact that He is now Immortal, having the ability to be physical and/or Spirit at any time, He does not have to eat or sleep.
Now, to us is His promise, that we shall be changed, and resurrected after His Likeness.
Again, if Jesus now does NOT need or require an earth like planet, why should we?
I propose this:
Jesus Himself is the New Heaven, and
we ourselves individually,
are the New earth, in which God Himself will permanenty dwell in ever after.
This sums it up:
John 14[3] And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; [so] that where I am, there ye may be also.
So then, where is Jesus NOW?
Yes, we all do know the Biblical answer!

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The place Jesus went to prepare for us to dwell in, comes down from heaven and is 1500 miles long and wide, the city New Jerusalem, per Revelation 21.

Yes, it’s a literal city. Metaphors aren’t that specific - we’re give it’s height, width, length, number of gates, thickness of the walls, material the walls are made of, and gates are made of, etc.

Curtis said:

The place Jesus went to prepare for us to dwell in, comes down from heaven and is 1500 miles long and wide, the city New Jerusalem, per Revelation 21.

Yes, it’s a literal city. Metaphors aren’t that specific - we’re give it’s height, width, length, number of gates, thickness of the walls, material the walls are made of, and gates are made of, etc.

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Yes! Heavenly Jerusalem!!

So, are you thinking that when Jesus ascended 2,021 years ago, He has been in Heaven constructing a huge literal building of literal gems and stones of "jewels"* for us to live in, on this then burned out planet (a LoF), whereby even all the graves are burned up also?

No, I don't think so! We each ourselves are His jewels/mansions, that He is placing in His Father's "spiritual house", of which is that of God Himself, who " is a Spirit".

Malachi 3:17, John 14:2 Revelation 21:19,
1 Peter 2:4-5

^ Correction-
KJV Malachi 3[17] And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

I should've known NOT to reference a site that copies ONLY the modern day bible versions!! The word "jewels" is omitted by them.

In brief, WE ARE ourselves Heavenly Jerusalem!

Earburner said:

In brief, WE ARE ourselves Heavenly Jerusalem!

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Yes we are and we are the bride of the lamb

Truth7t7 said:

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

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I have copied your own quote back to you, so that you may digest by His Spirit, aka the mind of Christ, that which is revealed in me, of what I have recently stated.
Who did you think the great multitude are?
They are all the resurrected Saints who had died in faith of Christ, throughout the generations. They themselves are Heavenly Jerusalem, who God brings with Him, when He is visibly revealed from Heaven, in flaming fire. We, who are alive and remain on that day, shall be changed, and shall rise TO MEET Him and them IN THE AIR, and so shall we EVER BE WITH the Lord.

Earburner said:

I believe that you are correct on #1, and are half correct and half wrong on #2
1. Correct. A simultaneous event.
2. Since the day of Jesus resurrection, and His Ascension following, does Jesus need or require a literal NEW earth planet?

Iows, given the fact that He is now Immortal, having the ability to be physical and/or Spirit at any time, He does not have to eat or sleep.
Now, to us is His promise, that we shall be changed, and resurrected after His Likeness.
Again, if Jesus now does NOT need or require an earth like planet, why should we?
I propose this:
Jesus Himself is the New Heaven, and
we ourselves individually,
are the New earth, in which God Himself will permanenty dwell in ever after.
This sums it up:
John 14[3] And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; [so] that where I am, there ye may be also.
So then, where is Jesus NOW?
Yes, we all do know the Biblical answer!

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Isaiah 40:v.1 to 8 and 21-22

1 Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God.

2 Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the Lord's hand double for all her sins.

3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

4 Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:

5 And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

6 The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field:

7 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the Lord bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass.

8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

21 Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?

22 It is He that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:


John 14:v. 1 to 7

1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

Truth7t7 said:

"Preterism is a false teaching, the book of Revelation is "Future"

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Ummm....sorry! No its NOT all future. The Eternal Mind of God thinks in the Past, Present and Future all at the same time.

Truth7t7 said:

Heavenly Jerusalem Is A City That Will Be Revealed At The Second Coming That Is The Tabernacle Of God, That Has Foundations, Gates, And Walls

Those Found To Inhabit This City Will Be The Righteous Saved, Whose Names Are Written In The Book Of Life

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.
19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;
20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

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Lol, your god is going to wall you in for all of eternity, sounds more like a grave.

Revelation 1:1 KJV
[1] The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
He must have had no idea, when people would read this 2k plus years later they’d still be to spiritually blind to understand.