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Ferris Bueller

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Yikes very strict

Well, Christian Cant Ever Earn There Own way, And they Always Need their father, Maybe God Sees us as His Children hmmmmm? You don't think your all grown up and earning your own way do you ?
Hopefully you see my point.
Don't stretch analogies beyond usefulness. I mean, if you want to use the child/parent analogy beyond the way the Bible uses it where do you stop drawing the parallels? Children grow up to earn their own way. Obviously, God did not intend us to stretch and ruin the analogy that way. So let's not stretch the analogy beyond the way the Bible uses it. But that is exactly what Osas does with the child/parent analogy. That was my point.
 

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LOL In the Old Testament alone God's name appear over 6000 times....Why would God not have His name in the Old Testament? You funny! When they switched over from Paleo-Hebrew to Classical Hebrew his name was given the tetragrammaton---YHWH---יהוה‎. Then it appeared over 6000 times...then they replaced that with the Word God or LORD. Thus removing God's name from the Old Testament. Then they wacked the Old and Testament with J's and thus remove God the Son's name. They do not even know where the word Jesus came form...It is not connected to the Greek...no J's in the Greek either. But hey, call Him George as far as I am concerned.

Interesting...I see, Well, Jesus Christ Is Lord, not Two Lords so Jesus Gets that Title, Jesus Name Came from The Angel that appeared to Mary, for he shall save his people from their sins

Mathew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
 

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Interesting...I see, Well, Jesus Christ Is Lord, not Two Lords so Jesus Gets that Title, Jesus Name Came from The Angel that appeared to Mary, for he shall save his people from their sins

Mathew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
LOL Have fun.
 

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Hopefully you see my point.
Don't stretch analogies beyond usefulness. I mean, if you want to use the child/parent analogy beyond the way the Bible uses it where do you stop drawing the parallels? Children grow up to earn their own way. Obviously, God did not intend us to stretch and ruin the analogy that way. So let's not stretch the analogy beyond the way the Bible uses it. But that is exactly what Osas does with the child/parent analogy. That was my point.

I see your point that's Why I present the other side to it, And you get my point also, let's stretch the analogy as far as we can go aye Anti Osas people never want to stretch analogies....Just words and questions are ok in anti osas version 3.0
 

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LOL Have fun.

No other Name by which Man can be Saved, The Name above every name "JESUS"

Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
 
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No other Name by which Man can be Saved, The Name above every name "JESUS"

Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
That is why it is important to know His real name.
Of course His name is pronounced different ways in different languages.
Like I said...say what you want.
I make it my business to know the facts.
 

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I see your point that's Why I present the other side to it, And you get my point also, let's stretch the analogy as far as we can go aye Anti Osas people never want to stretch analogies....Just words and questions are ok in anti osas version 3.0
You see, when you say your children can't stop being your children you take the parent/child analogy outside of the boundaries in which the Bible uses it. Disinheritance is within the boundaries of the parent/child analogy in the Bible. Death of a child is also within those boundaries set by the Bible.
 

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So does this mean you believe that born again people can never stop believing (Osas type 1), or that even if the born again person does stop believing they are still saved (Osas type 2)?
If they lack faith in Jesus Christ they were never born again in the first place.

Most people who claim OSAS are only religious, in that they are just following along with what they are told by Man, because they have faith ? it's called little faith from Man ? but this is not the faith that can move mountains, as this comes from God.
Little faith is on par with the Jews, that means only religious ? one needs more than religion to save you and when one is truly born again that's when you come out from them ? and into the Kingdom of God.

Religion never saved any ones Soul, only Jesus Chris Saves your Soul.

All people are religious regardless what one may claim. Satanist are religious, Atheist are religious in fact and the biggest full on religious are the Politically Correct Mobs and their Cultural Marxist Communist Socialist gods that they idolise.

From the start Israel had no such gods Idols sitting before them, but such of Satan crept in over time and undermined them and only the true worthy people of Israel were Saved in fact because they were truly worthy of the title Israel, just as Nathaniel was. the others were not worthy of God at all, but just followers of this world that's clearly the case, just as it is nowadays with anyone who is not truly born again.

When one comes to a Church one is learning a craft and one can only start off on milk and then move on to solid food, but the parable of the sower still stands, I have seen it with all the bible study students that only a small percentage still have faith. they were just as the parable points out.

Oh you of little faith Bible points out. so faith does grow in fact. I have had religious demand that faith is faith, well I know that they are clearly not Saved. they are on a religious works program, even if they do say that they strongly reject works, they still do bathe such full on.
 

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You see, when you say your children can't stop being your children you take the parent/child analogy outside of the boundaries in which the Bible uses it. Disinheritance is within the boundaries of the parent/child analogy in the Bible. Death of a child is also within those boundaries set by the Bible.

No Because We are not made New bodies Yet these ones are sinful, You have a dilemma, God condemned sin in the flesh
 
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That is why it is important to know His real name.
Of course His name is pronounced different ways in different languages.
Like I said...say what you want.
I make it my business to know the facts.

Great let's deal with Facts, No one comes to God by By Jesus, So you have to go through Jesus to get to God, basic Principle there right? can we confirm that as a fact? Now Jesus Opens up the opportunity to Approach God As our Father, So If someone Prays Our Father who is In Heaven, Will God not listen Because they Chose to use Father, Will God Not Listen To a Child that calls out to him with something as simple as abba a sound a baby can make, Another Basic Fact is that Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father
 

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Great let's deal with Facts, No one comes to God by By Jesus, So you have to go through Jesus to get to God, basic Principle there right? can we confirm that as a fact? Now Jesus Opens up the opportunity to Approach God As our Father, So If someone Prays Our Father who is In Heaven, Will God not listen Because they Chose to use Father, Will God Not Listen To a Child that calls out to him with something as simple as abba a sound a baby can make, Another Basic Fact is that Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father
All this is true...I am talking about the name.
As you might suspect...Christ was not Greek, He was not Latin and certainly not English. His name appears in the Greek text as iesous... παχύσαρκος to be more exact. This word means healer in the Greek. The Apostles found this meaning agreeable and used it for Christ. They did that a lot because they were using a Pagan language for their texts.
Fortunately for us...LOL we know his name was Hebrew....Yeshua a shortened name of Yehoshua
Yeshua means The Lord Is Salvation. The Hebrew Y had/has an "e" tang to it so to pronounce it correctly is more like e-Yeshua.
 
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All this is true...I am talking about the name.
As you might suspect...Christ was not Greek, He was not Latin and certainly not English. His name appears in the Greek text as iesous... παχύσαρκος to be more exact. This word means healer in the Greek. The Apostles found this meaning agreeable and used it for Christ. They did that a lot because they were using a Pagan language for their texts.
Fortunately for us...LOL we know his name was Hebrew....Yeshua a shortened name of Yehoshua
Yeshua means The Lord Is Salvation. The Hebrew Y had/has an "e" tang to it so to pronounce it correctly is more like e-Yeshua.

I know most of that mea, you whakaae it is pronounced differently in different ahurea, But you couldn't whakautu in greek or Hebrew You Speak English So in English you know its Jesus,See If I i korero to you and chucked Maori Words in between you wouldn't know what I was saying



I know most of that stuff, you admitted it is pronounced differently in different cultures, But you couldn't respond in greek or Hebrew You Speak English So in English you know its Jesus,See If I spoke to you and chucked Maori Words in between you wouldn't know what I was saying
 
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I know most of that mea, you whakaae it is pronounced differently in different ahurea, But you couldn't whakautu in greek or Hebrew You Speak English So in English you know its Jesus,See If I i korero to you and chucked Maori Words in between you wouldn't know what I was saying



I know most of that stuff, you admitted it is pronounced differently in different cultures, But you couldn't respond in greek or Hebrew You Speak English So in English you know its Jesus,See If I spoke to you and chucked Maori Words in between you wouldn't know what I was saying
Like I said, I don't care what you call him.
I am done....good-bye
 

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Thank you God for saving me by giving me faith in you, and for ever keeping me, having made me your child. Come Lord Jesus!

To God only be the glory in all of that!

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and that is what is judged on Judgment Day.


God poured out His Judgement on “me” by putting it on Jesus 2000 years ago....
Jesus got my Sins —- I got His “ Perfection” ...
What a Deal ! What a Savior!

It’s called “ Christianity 101”......
 
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Christianity is a moral religion, a prescribed character that is defined by description and example throughout the New Testament.


Islam is Also a “ Moral Religion” ...why not just go with “ it” ....it could get you out of “tithing” If nothing else.....and if your “ good” deeds outweigh your “ bad” deeds —- you are IN!
Hell will be Chock- Full Of “ Moral” people ....you know why? God ain’t looking for “ Moral” people —- he ain’t impressed with “,Good Neighbor Sam” .....

God Demands “PERFECT” People .....Nobody can be “perfect” except Jesus.....The only Hope Anybody has is to get that “perfection” Imputed to them ....Do That by RESTING in Paul’s Gospel, Found In 1Cor15:1-4.....( make sure you don’t add to it —- thats how one “Falls from Grace” .....that “ could” mean Damnation....MANY here need to pray that that is NOT the case..THAT “ Narrow Path” could turn out to be REaLLY Narrow.......
 
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