Who and what is the antichrist?

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It may be that there is a connection. The person may claim to be Solomon or his name may be Solomon.

The false prophet does miracles of calling fire down from heaven; which Elijah did that in his confrontation with the prophets of baal. The false prophet, therefore, may claim to be Elijah.
Uh, could be Jesus descended from this King.
 

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Jesus told the disciples they would see the AOD spoken of by Daniel, are you saying that Jesus is a false prophet?
Not specifically the disciples, but the Jewish people.

ToD - the act of sitting in the temple. Preceding...

AoD - the image of the beast, (a statue image), placed on the temple mount courtyard, where it can be seen.
 

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What about when Christ said many false christs will come. He said when the people say he is in the desert go not forth. That sounds to like flesh and blood person. If you are going to declare something to be truth you have to look at everything being told to us by the Lord. You just can’t pick and chose to declare the truth.
I hear you Daniel,
Jesus spoke a lot in parables. I don't think people go in the desert looking for Christ.
The desert is empty and barren and dry. There isn't much vibrant life in it.
The same would be if you joined a group of people that had no christian spirit in them.
It would be empty, barren (unfruitful) and dry (no life giving water/spirit in it) .
What I'm trying to say is, it's not an individual, it's more like an atmosphere.
I believe what Jesus is saying is, just because people point you in a direction that they say is the way..
doesn't make it so.
You can join a church that's deader than a door nail.
You can join a group that's bursting with life.
You have to test the spirits and those that align with Christ's spirit.

There is a verse:
Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
This is not Jesus in the flesh as a person, rather his spirit is amongst those who gather in his name.
He is with us in Spirit.

If someone tells you that Jesus is here or there, the only way you know is to test the spirits of the people that are there.
If it is unchristianlike, worldly, then you know you took the wrong turn.

Does this help?
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Strongs G500
ἀντίχριστος
antichristos
an-tee'-khris-tos
From G473 and G5547; an opponent of the Messiah: - antichrist.
Total KJV occurrences: 5

Strongs G473
ἀντί
anti
an-tee'
A primary particle; opposite, that is, instead or because of (rarely in addition to): - for, in the room of. Often used in composition to denote contrast, requital, substitution, correspondence, etc.
Total KJV occurrences: 22

We can safely deduce that anyone or anything that opposes Christ or aspires to occupy His position and role instead of Him, is antichrist.

I agree - it’s called the Antichrist spirit which will culminate in the manifestation of THE Antichrist.
 
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I hear you Daniel,
Jesus spoke a lot in parables. I don't think people go in the desert looking for Christ.
The desert is empty and barren and dry. There isn't much vibrant life in it.
The same would be if you joined a group of people that had no christian spirit in them.
It would be empty, barren (unfruitful) and dry (no life giving water/spirit in it) .
What I'm trying to say is, it's not an individual, it's more like an atmosphere.
I believe what Jesus is saying is, just because people point you in a direction that they say is the way..
doesn't make it so.
You can join a church that's deader than a door nail.
You can join a group that's bursting with life.
You have to test the spirits and those that align with Christ's spirit.

There is a verse:
Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
This is not Jesus in the flesh as a person, rather his spirit is amongst those who gather in his name.
He is with us in Spirit.

If someone tells you that Jesus is here or there, the only way you know is to test the spirits of the people that are there.
If it is unchristianlike, worldly, then you know you took the wrong turn.

Does this help?
Hugs

Jesus is indeed talking about literal people claiming to be the Messiah, because the warning is that when a claimed messiah appears anywhere on earth, but he wasn’t first seen coming out of the sky as lightning before landing on earth, as Jesus will do, he’s a guaranteed-to be-phony messiah.

Mat 24:26 So, if they say to you, ‘Look, he is in the wilderness,’ do not go out. If they say, ‘Look, he is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.

Mat 24:27 For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
 
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Mar 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

there are two threads on this topic active right now. This one and Is Jesus Michael?
and if I get confused between the two please forgive me, they intertwine together.

There are a lot of people on earth right now that claim to be the Messiah.
The Bible says do not be deceived, the whole world will see him when He appears with the holy angels.

Not to get too sidetracked but...
lightening doesn't always travel east to west. But you can see lightening in an open sky for a very long distance.

There will be a movement... and it will be bright.. you won't be able to miss it.
Thousands and thousands will march... when the world is at it's darkest.
People will rise from all around the world.
And darkness will fall and be no more.

And a little child shall lead them...
Unless ye become as little children...

soon..

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1 John 2:18
18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.

Not to hijack the thread but this verse undermines the Bible's prophetic integrity. "Soon" may be vague but 'last hour' is hard to rationalize = 2,000+ years.
 
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Not to hijack the thread but this verse undermines the Bible's prophetic integrity. "Soon" may be vague but 'last hour' is hard to rationalize = 2,000+ years.
Do you find it interesting that Jesus says there are 12 hours in a day?
Jhn 11:9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.
and then there is this hour:
Luk 22:53 When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.

I don't really know what time is in the bible.
a day is as a thousand years, a thousand years is as a watch in the night..
Psa 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

I believe the only clock we really have to go by is the signs of the times.
Mat 16:3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

discerning the signs of the times.

I guess my question would be, how dark does it have to get before the sun begins to dawn?
It seems to me the "night" is getting rather dark exponentially.. increasingly by the minute.
Not so much by the crime we see on tv. But the emptiness and hatefulness that is beginning to fill the earth.
Filling the hearts of people.

Does anybody really know what time it is?
Judging by the signs of the times, I would say, it's getting rather late.
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Do you find it interesting that Jesus says there are 12 hours in a day?
Jhn 11:9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.

While I realize much of the Bible is metaphorical, in this case I think Jesus was simply referring to 12 hours (of day light) each day.

Does anybody really know what time it is?
Judging by the signs of the times, I would say, it's getting rather late.
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After 2,000 years, it should be rather late when we were in the last hours then.
 

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Not to hijack the thread but this verse undermines the Bible's prophetic integrity. "Soon" may be vague but 'last hour' is hard to rationalize = 2,000+ years.
In the realm of the natural, physical geography and finite chronology can be mapped and measured.
In the realm of the supernatural, spiritual theography and infinite theology are not confined to spacetime properties of location and duration, so far from the Bible's integrity being undermined it is enhanced.
 

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Not to hijack the thread but this verse undermines the Bible's prophetic integrity. "Soon" may be vague but 'last hour' is hard to rationalize = 2,000+ years.

You are confusing the end of the world with the end of the old covenant age the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple that was the last hour John was talking about
 

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I agree - it’s called the Antichrist spirit which will culminate in the manifestation of THE Antichrist.
What is an Antichrist? What is a false Christ? There is a difference. One who proclaims he is Christ and not is a false Christ? One who denies there was a Christ is an Antichrist. Learn the difference and you’ll understand.
 
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You are confusing the end of the world with the end of the old covenant age the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple that was the last hour John was talking about

No. The text of the Apostles makes it clear they expected the return of Jesus in their life times.
 

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What is an Antichrist? What is a false Christ? There is a difference. One who proclaims he is Christ and not is a false Christ? One who denies there was a Christ is an Antichrist. Learn the difference and you’ll understand.

Nice post I agree
 

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No. The text of the Apostles makes it clear they expected the return of Jesus in their life times.

The Apostles may have expected it in their days, yet that's not the timing the Bible prophecies show it would happen, even in Acts 1 when they asked Jesus if He was then going to restore the kingdom of Israel, just prior to His ascent to The Father in a cloud.
 

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Humm I not sure what your point is I was replying to what you said

This quote might get us back on track.

No. The text of the Apostles makes it clear they expected the return of Jesus in their life times.

The Apostles spoke of Judgment Day being imminent, soon, last hours, etc. If it were up to me, it would already be here. Then again, I am not as merciful and grace-filled as our Lord.
 

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What is an Antichrist? What is a false Christ? There is a difference. One who proclaims he is Christ and not is a false Christ? One who denies there was a Christ is an Antichrist. Learn the difference and you’ll understand.
That’s an incorrect claim.

Scripture is clear that there are many antichrists NOW and yet THE Antichrist is still to come:

1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

The Jews who reject Jesus will accept the false messiah.

Joh 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.