What's in a name

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dfj

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There has been as much confusion surrounding the term "name", as there has been regarding other Biblical terms such as "baptism".

The Greek term "onoma", can mean a literal name, as in Matt 1:21, "She will give birth to a son, and you are to give Him the name Jesus, because He will save His people from their sins." But even here, the term is who and what He is, Ieesoú, (from the Hebrew, Yehowshu' - YHWH saves), and Christoú, (Greek- anointed).

It's not like today where the name has little or no inherent meaning.

a "name" can also be used figuratively to mean authority, as in John 5:43, where Jesus said, "I have come in my Father's name, (authority), and you do not accept Me; but if someone else comes in his own name, (authority), you will accept him".

An interesting study is to list all the NT verses that have the term name in them and determine whether the term means, a literal name, authority or character.

You will be amazed at the results; and you will clear up the confusion when it comes to some verses that have been a matter of discussion and debate for years.


 

charlesj

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There has been as much confusion surrounding the term "name", as there has been regarding other Biblical terms such as "baptism".

The Greek term "onoma", can mean a literal name, as in Matt 1:21, "She will give birth to a son, and you are to give Him the name Jesus, because He will save His people from their sins." But even here, the term is who and what He is, Ieesoú, (from the Hebrew, Yehowshu' - YHWH saves), and Christoú, (Greek- anointed).

It's not like today where the name has little or no inherent meaning.

a "name" can also be used figuratively to mean authority, as in John 5:43, where Jesus said, "I have come in my Father's name, (authority), and you do not accept Me; but if someone else comes in his own name, (authority), you will accept him".

An interesting study is to list all the NT verses that have the term name in them and determine whether the term means, a literal name, authority or character.

You will be amazed at the results; and you will clear up the confusion when it comes to some verses that have been a matter of discussion and debate for years.



Hello David:


I am thinking, years ago, I did a study on "name."


How about the name "Yeshua" instead of "Jesus"? As you know, there is not a "J" in the Koine Greek or the Hebrew. I have been calling the Son of God Jesus for many years, but I feel it would be closer as Yeshua.

What's your thoghts?

Your servant in Messiah,

Charles


 

dfj

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Hello David:

I am thinking, years ago, I did a study on "name."

How about the name "Yeshua" instead of "Jesus"? As you know, there is not a "J" in the Koine Greek or the Hebrew. I have been calling the Son of God Jesus for many years, but I feel it would be closer as Yeshua.

What's your thoghts?

Your servant in Messiah,

Charles

I think Yeshua would be just fine and I think the Lord would be pleased.

It's not which name you choose, whether Hebrew, Greek, Latin, Aramaic, Spanish, English, etc. it's what brings us closer to who He really is.
 

charlesj

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I think Yeshua would be just fine and I think the Lord would be pleased.

It's not which name you choose, whether Hebrew, Greek, Latin, Aramaic, Spanish, English, etc. it's what brings us closer to who He really is.

David:

Thanks for your response. I agree with "...its what brings us closer to who He really is." Thank you.

We need to reign (or live) WITH HIM. (Rom. 6.8) There will be many whom He will say, "I never knew you." (Matt 7:23)

charles (notice, no caps, I'm being humble)

San Antonio, Tx


 

dan p

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There has been as much confusion surrounding the term "name", as there has been regarding other Biblical terms such as "baptism".

The Greek term "onoma", can mean a literal name, as in Matt 1:21, "She will give birth to a son, and you are to give Him the name Jesus, because He will save His people from their sins." But even here, the term is who and what He is, Ieesoú, (from the Hebrew, Yehowshu' - YHWH saves), and Christoú, (Greek- anointed).

It's not like today where the name has little or no inherent meaning.

a "name" can also be used figuratively to mean authority, as in John 5:43, where Jesus said, "I have come in my Father's name, (authority), and you do not accept Me; but if someone else comes in his own name, (authority), you will accept him".

An interesting study is to list all the NT verses that have the term name in them and determine whether the term means, a literal name, authority or character.

You will be amazed at the results; and you will clear up the confusion when it comes to some verses that have been a matter of discussion and debate for years.




Hi Dr Jones , and the word CHARIS , is translated by 12 differe3nt words and all should notice that Charis is define by Paul in his letters and not in the OT or in the Gospels which is the OT ,

Iy has been my experience that many Greek word have more than onr meaning and that many Greek words are a Transliteraltion , dan p
 

dfj

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Hi Dr Jones , and the word CHARIS , is translated by 12 differe3nt words and all should notice that Charis is define by Paul in his letters and not in the OT or in the Gospels which is the OT ,

Iy has been my experience that many Greek word have more than onr meaning and that many Greek words are a Transliteraltion , dan p

You are correct Dan, the Greek word "cháritos", (From Thayer's Greek Lexicon), can mean, favor, grace, misc, pleasure, thanks. Properly, that which affords joy, pleasure, delight, sweetness, charm, loveliness: grace of speech, good-will, loving-kindness, favor: Luke 2:52. What is due to grace, the spiritual condition of one governed by the power of divine grace, a token or proof of grace, 2 Cor 1:15, thanks 1 Cor 10:30.

Any given word will have a different meaning or usage, depending on the context, this is called its "Semantic Range"
 

dfj

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It has been my experience that many Greek word have more than one meaning and that many Greek words are a Transliteration,

This is quite true, especially of transliteration.

Unless the writer of the text is using deliberate ambiguity as a literary device, (fairly common in poetry), a word can have only one meaning or usage in given context.

Unfortunately, sometimes, readers, and even translators, choose the meaning which best fits their own theological preferences.

In many cases, a reader will look up the word in a lexicon, and chooses a meaning which seems to make the best sense, however, what they really are looking for is that which best fits a preconceived notion about what the text should say, even if it violates the intended usage in context.

This is called "Lexical Fallacy". Being aware of the semantic range and developing a sincere desire for contextual accuracy, (as unto the LORD), is the best way to avoid this fallacy.

It means really reading the text and allowing The Spirit of God to speak through the text, rather than reading it in the light of one’s own theological presuppositions.