Where Is Heaven? Outer Space?

ReChoired · Jun 21, 2021

Faith1960 said:
Did Moses have a glorified body at the Transfiguration?

That man has several errors in understanding, which are shown here -And when You Die Your 1st Stop Ain't Heaven I don't care what you Believe, or What they told You. you are going to the grave

To be able to breath in the vacuum of space, a tank of oxygen (mix) is required, along with a pressurized suit. How much air did the 'tanks' on the 'space suits' of Apollo 11 hold (how many 'bars' (diving terms)?) What were the exact size of the tanks (external and internal carrying/load capacity), and what were the composition of materials that the tanks were made of, and what was the external to internal temperature range limits? How long were the exercises carried out on external lunar soil missions and would the tanks hold enough air, and how was the oxygen (air) replaced on each subsequent outing? Where are the exchanged tanks, and what was the exact process for exchanging those tanks, and what was the time it took to exchange each one, and were those time tables given in any available NASA mission logs? When the material 'air' from the lungs is expelled, what venting process occurred by the mechanics of the suits, and can any of this venting be seen on any recorded data, and if there was no need for venting, how was the expelled 'air' recycled and/or stored? If so, where did those storage tanks get stored or ejected?

ReChoired · Jun 21, 2021

APAK said:
I saw the video link...

Nice.

APAK said:
it does a decent job that the aliens and UFOs are really demonic beings operating

Yes, true.

APAK said:
between at least one inner dimension.

That is the incorrect part, and leads to spiritualism. Fallen angels (devils) are not in another dimension. They are walking on this earth, most times, invisible, other times visible. They are tangible beings as you or I, except that they have celestial (heavenly materials) bodies, while we terrestrial (dust of this earth) bodies.

APAK · Jun 21, 2021

ReChoired said:
Nice.

Yes, true.

That is the incorrect part, and leads to spiritualism. Fallen angels (devils) are not in another dimension. They are walking on this earth, most times, invisible, other times visible. They are tangible beings as you or I, except that they have celestial (heavenly materials) bodies, while we terrestrial (dust of this earth) bodies.

Of your last comment, then I have been fortunate not to 'bump' into any thus far. I did once feel this evil presence and the dangers of opening up a doorway to attract one of these beings. They are real I do know that for sure. I remember when I took a side road in life some 26 years ago, where a women tried to conjure up a spirit or demonstrate its presence with the a swinging pendent in my face. After a few attempts as she had done this many times before, she finally announced it did not work or would not show its presence for me for some reason....that was only one time....when I was about 16 years old I used a OUJI board in a friend's home and it correctly answered a couple of questions I asked to a tee....the number of kids I would have and what type of work I would undertake in the future... all came true in between 10 and 22 years later.

Thanks for your feedback..APAK

quietthinker · Jun 21, 2021

Faith1960 said:
Is that something Scriptural that I missed? And then back to my OP, where ARE they. (I know they’re in heaven but what and where is that?)

Heaven!....regarding where, do you want co-ordinates? and re what, it appears to be the place Jesus went back to at the ascension and will return from at the appointed time. As I understand it, it is a place which consists of little we relate to yet immearsureably superior to life here.

Faith1960 · Jun 21, 2021

TheslightestID said:
No scriptural support for what....space?

For heaven floating around in space.

Faith1960 · Jun 21, 2021

TheslightestID said:
E and E?

Enoch and Elijah

Faith1960 · Jun 21, 2021

quietthinker said:
Heaven!....regarding where, do you want co-ordinates? and re what, it appears to be the place Jesus went back to at the ascension and will return from at the appointed time. As I understand it, it is a place which consists of little we relate to yet immearsureably superior to life here.

Yes, but where is it?

Faith1960 · Jun 21, 2021

quietthinker said:
Heaven!....regarding where, do you want co-ordinates? and re what, it appears to be the place Jesus went back to at the ascension and will return from at the appointed time. As I understand it, it is a place which consists of little we relate to yet immearsureably superior to life here.

No. I want to know if it’s outside space (unlikely since space keeps expanding), is it in a different realm? Another dimension? What?

quietthinker · Jun 21, 2021

Faith1960 said:
Yes, but where is it?

I don't know the where Faith but I trust it is there on the basis that Jesus said it was by saying he came from there, went back there and is returning for the rescue mission.
EDIT....I suppose one could call it a different Realm

Faith1960 · Jun 21, 2021

quietthinker said:
I don't know the where Faith but I trust it is there on the basis that Jesus said it was by saying he came from there, went back there and is returning for the rescue mission.
EDIT....I suppose one could call it a different Realm

Earburner · Jun 21, 2021

Faith1960 said:
So are you saying that space is finite but heaven is beyond where space ends? That heaven is infinite? in another dimension? Different plane than we are or what?

Heaven is in Jesus!
Once you leave church-ianity behind, it's not hard to figure it out.
When Jesus Ascended bodily, He disappeared out of their sight, in the same way that He entered the upper room when the doors were shut.
Yes! Jesus is now in another dimension. To be born again of His Spirit, is to allow the verySpirit of His Being, of His Personage/Character to Live within us. To do that, one must come from another dimension, because nothing like His Resurrected Immortal Being/body could ever come from this dimension.
As He said: John 8[23] And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

Curtis · Jun 21, 2021

Faith1960 said:
Enoch and Elijah were taken up to heaven, but where is heaven? Are they floating around in space somewhere? Is heaven in outer space or a different dimension?
Why haven’t any astronauts been able to see it?

I can tell you where it will be - on the new earth.

Faith1960 · Jun 22, 2021

Earburner said:
Heaven is in Jesus!
Once you leave church-ianity behind, it's not hard to figure it out.
When Jesus Ascended bodily, He disappeared out of their sight, in the same way that He entered the upper room when the doors were shut.
Yes! Jesus is now in another dimension. To be born again of His Spirit, is to allow the verySpirit of His Being, of His Personage/Character to Live within us. To do that, one must come from another dimension, because nothing like His Resurrected Immortal Being/body could ever come from this dimension.
As He said: John 8[23] And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

Ok….so then what about E and E? They weren’t glorified so how could they be in that dimension?

Curtis · Jun 22, 2021

Faith1960 said:
Enoch and Elijah were taken up to heaven, but where is heaven? Are they floating around in space somewhere? Is heaven in outer space or a different dimension?
Why haven’t any astronauts been able to see it?

IMO God controls time, which is the fourth dimension - and he created the space-time continuum - so has the power to remove Enoch and Elijah from their timeline and drop them directly into the tribulation timeline to be the two witnesses in Revelation, with no interval.

And God lives in the spirit world, which we lost the ability to see after the fall of man.
Astronauts can’t see into the spirit world anymore than we can, so why would you expect them to see it?

BTW animals can still see the spirit world, such as Balaam’s donkey did, and anyone who’s ever had cats has seen them staring intensely at the ceiling with a puzzled look on their face, looking at an angel or demon, etc.

Faith1960 · Jun 22, 2021

Curtis said:
IMO God controls time, which is the fourth dimension - and he created the space-time continuum - so has the power to remove Enoch and Elijah from their timeline and drop them directly into the tribulation timeline to be the two witnesses in Revelation, with no interval.

And God lives in the spirit world, which we lost the ability to see after the fall of man.
Astronauts can’t see into the spirit world anymore than we can, so why would you expect them to see it?

BTW animals can still see the spirit world, such as Balaam’s donkey did, and anyone who’s ever had cats has seen them staring intensely at the ceiling with a puzzled look on their face, looking at an angel or demon, etc.

Are there more dimensions than 4? According to scientists there can possibly be up to 10.

Brakelite · Jun 22, 2021

Curtis said:
who’s ever had cats has seen them staring intensely at the ceiling with a puzzled look on their face, looking at an angel or demon, etc.

Likely trying to figure out how to catch it and eat it.

ReChoired · Jun 22, 2021

Curtis said:
BTW animals can still see the spirit world

T'ain't no such thang. Devils exist here, with us. They are just often most times 'invisible' (can not be seen by the eye).

Curtis said:
, such as Balaam’s donkey did

Animals can hear and smell and even see things humans cannot, whether at higher or lower frequencies, have more olfactory senses, or differing ranges of vision. It has nothing to do with 'another dimension'. It is all explainable upon this 'dimension'.

Curtis said:
and anyone who’s ever had cats has seen them staring intensely at the ceiling with a puzzled look on their face, looking at an angel or demon, etc.

Most times, the cat can hear scratching in the ceiling by bugs, roaches, mice, lizards, etc. It is rarely ever a devil hiding in the attic. A devil may be present in a room, invisible (even as angels of God can be), true, but that has nothing to do with 'another dimension'.

ReChoired · Jun 22, 2021

Faith1960 said:
Are there more dimensions than 4? According to scientists there can possibly be up to 10.

That's all illogical mathematical nonsense and skullduggery. That 'science' is as bad as some 'statistics'. It's all smoke and mirrors.

Faith1960 · Jun 22, 2021

ReChoired said:
That's all illogical mathematical nonsense and skullduggery. That 'science' is as bad as some 'statistics'. It's all smoke and mirrors.

Wow!

Faith1960 · Jun 22, 2021

ReChoired said:
That man has several errors in understanding, which are shown here -And when You Die Your 1st Stop Ain't Heaven I don't care what you Believe, or What they told You. you are going to the grave

To be able to breath in the vacuum of space, a tank of oxygen (mix) is required, along with a pressurized suit. How much air did the 'tanks' on the 'space suits' of Apollo 11 hold (how many 'bars' (diving terms)?) What were the exact size of the tanks (external and internal carrying/load capacity), and what were the composition of materials that the tanks were made of, and what was the external to internal temperature range limits? How long were the exercises carried out on external lunar soil missions and would the tanks hold enough air, and how was the oxygen (air) replaced on each subsequent outing? Where are the exchanged tanks, and what was the exact process for exchanging those tanks, and what was the time it took to exchange each one, and were those time tables given in any available NASA mission logs? When the material 'air' from the lungs is expelled, what venting process occurred by the mechanics of the suits, and can any of this venting be seen on any recorded data, and if there was no need for venting, how was the expelled 'air' recycled and/or stored? If so, where did those storage tanks get stored or ejected?

What are your qualifications to be able to knock NASA, science (pseudo science) theologians with a masters in divinity etc?

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