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The most dramatic is:
"Who, being in the form of God

Indeed, the most dramatic syntax proving Jesus is not God for only things that are 'in the form of' are explicitly not what that form is. For instance, a ceramic vase in the form of a bear, is not a bear.


thought it not robbery to be equal with God

Continuing with this most dramatic linguistic analysis, only one is NOT God would consider equality with God. For instance, I Wrangler may consider it not robbery to be equal with JunChosen precisely because I am NOT JunChosen. However, language is not used for one, such as Wrangler, to consider equality with himself for that is a given.

A is A is for certain. We might hypothesis that A is equal to B. However, such equality considerations are only made possible upon recognizing A is NOT B, which is precisely the purpose of the different symbols used to refer to A (God) or B (Jesus).
 

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I suspect that the real reason that you believe the Trinity doctrine is because other people have told/taught you that it is true. The Bible doesn't teach or support the Trinity.[/QUOTE]

What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
Yes I admit I was taught it from the best Teacher of all, the Holy Spirit, and I suspect you learned yours by your own finite mind which amounts to nothing!


And Paul, who had direct revelation from Jesus (Galatians 1:12, Ephesians 3:3), never taught the Trinity. For example, your quote above is from Romans 3:4, and if you look at the introduction to Romans Paul writes (ASV):

Do you believe 2 Corinthians 13:14 to be Scripture or not? If so did he not praise the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? Aren't we taught to praise God only? Why then do you say Paul never taught the Trinity?

The Apostles were monotheistic Jews but they believed in the Trinity although the word "trinity" is not found in Holy Writ.

And, although the words "Omniscient" and "Omnipresent" are also not found in Scripture, the serious Bible student will never deny that God is not "omniscient" or "omnipresent" that is, that God is not all powerful and everywhere present!


13) Jesus asked His disciples saying, "Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
14) And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias or one of the prophets.
15) He saith unto them, but whom say ye that I am?
16) And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17) And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou , Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Clear and simple.
Clear and simple? It's because your eyes were blind to the above passages and many like it.

To God Be The Glory

 

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Thank you for the insult (although I'm not sure what you mean by "learned yours" - it seems as though your finite mind didn't complete the sentence).

The nature of a true believer is never to insult another believer in Christ. All believers stand on the same ground. I asked you a question and you answered with a question. Is that the norm for you? (only a question).

It seems that you only pick and choose Scripture passages that apparently speak Jesus is NOT God. The call to the world by God is, "believe in my Son." Believe what? That Jesus is God!

Hebrews 1:8 reads:
"But unto the Son, he saith, thy throne O God, is for ever and ever..."

Keithr,
1 Do you not believe your God said the above?
2 Do you not believe that God in Exodus 3:14 told Moses I AM that I AM and say to the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me to you.
3 Do you not believe Jesus said in John 8:24 "...for if you believe not that I AM he, you shall die in your sins."
... etc,... etc,... etc.

Jesus spoke in parables and without a parable He did not speak!

Indeed Jesus IS God whether you like it or not, or whether you understand it or not. Let God be true and all man liars!

To God Be The Glory.
 

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Jehovah’s Divine Name restored to the King James Version


Are you sure you haven't been lied too? You make the False assumption that Jesus Christ is God in (Rev 1:8) Look at your translation... No Jesus Christ nor God in that translation. However, it did state Jehovah God.

Translators not only removed God's Name but removed GOD from the passage. Replacing it with LORD because that's what they did.... and that deception did not go far enough so they took LORD and made it into a little Lord ... (Rev 1:8)


I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the LORD (God Jehovah Isa 44:6; Gen 17:1; Exo 6:3 ), which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. (Rev 1:8)



CHRIST IS THE ALMIGHTY GOD is not in Any Bible nor can you find that phrase in the trinity. It's a false gospel. I guess he didn't believe Jesus' own testimony at (John 3:16)??

Since Jesus was begotten, then he was begotten by someone else who already existed.
Funny, but Jehovah is not the name of God in scripture, but an anglicized pronunciation of the tetragrammaton, the 4 hebrew consonant Yod, He, Vaw, He. The Jews avoid speaking the covenant name out loud and many hesitate to even type out the word God, but when they do pronounce His name, it isn't Jehovah that they pronouncem, but Yah Havah (Yah the life giver). Modern Christian scholars believe that Yahweh is the correct pronunciation, but the Jews make no objection (so that is also obviously wrong.)
 

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The nature of a true believer is never to insult another believer in Christ.
Indeed, that should be the case.
I asked you a question and you answered with a question. Is that the norm for you? (only a question).
Actually you asked 5 questions. The first seemed rhetorical and sarcastic, and I commented on it by saying "It's irrelevant to whether or not the Bible does or does not teach or support the Trinity doctrine". I then answered your more serious questions. It looks as though I may not have answered the question "Aren't we taught to praise God only?", so I'll answer that now.

The Bible most definitely teaches (hundreds of times) that we should praise Yahweh. Christians use the word hallelujah a lot (although I suspect a lot of them don't understand what it means judging by their use of the word!), and that means 'praise ye Yah', where Yah is an abreviation of God's name Yahweh (I prefer to say God's full name - halleluyahweh - which is used in the Old Testament). However, the apostles also praise other Christians, so there is nothing wrong with giving praise where it is warranted. I think a better question is "are we taught to worship God only?". The Bible refers to worshipping Yahweh (LORD) in many verses, e.g. Psalms 95:6. Jesus said, "Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve" (Luke 4:8), where he is quoting from the Old Testament which refers to worshipping Yahweh (our Father) only. Jesus also taught us to pray to our Father (Yahweh) in Matthew 6:9. However, God did say the angels should worship Jesus:

(Hebrews 1:6) When he again brings in the firstborn into the world he says, “Let all the angels of God worship him.”

Jesus also prophesied that people would worship Christians:

(Revelation 3:9) Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

As for Christians, Paul says we should worship God (Yahweh):

(Philippians 3:3) For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

It seems that you only pick and choose Scripture passages that apparently speak Jesus is NOT God. The call to the world by God is, "believe in my Son." Believe what? That Jesus is God!
No, believe that he is God's son, and that God has anointed him to be our savoiur and king.

Hebrews 1:8 reads:
"But unto the Son, he saith, thy throne O God, is for ever and ever..."
We've been here before, I think! God is referring to His Son as a god. He is not talking to Himself and saying "thy throne O Yahweh", for only Yahweh, our Father, is almighty god. He is speaking to His Son, saying, "thy throne, O mighty one, will be forever".

1 Do you not believe your God said the above?
I believe God said that, and in His following sentence God said:

(Psalms 45:7) Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

So plainly, God (Yahweh) is talking to somebody else who he refers to as a god (which we now know is His son Jesus), and God is saying that He has anointed that god (Jesus) "with the oil of gladness above thy fellows". God's word to us is quite clear - there is God (Yahweh) and there is His son, Jesus, who plays a central part in God's plan for mankind and the angels.

2 Do you not believe that God in Exodus 3:14 told Moses I AM that I AM and say to the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me to you.
Yes, I do believe God said that. And again, in His immediately following sentence He said:

(Exodus 3:15) God said moreover to Moses, “You shall tell the children of Israel this, ‘Yahweh, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and this is my memorial to all generations.

So He then said that His name should forever be Yahweh.

3 Do you not believe Jesus said in John 8:24 "...for if you believe not that I AM he, you shall die in your sins."
Yes, I believe that. We've been here before too - see post #528.

Indeed Jesus IS God whether you like it or not, or whether you understand it or not. Let God be true and all man liars!
Jesus is not his own father, Yahweh. Like it or not, we need to love the truth, otherwise ... 2 Thessalonians 2 (WEB):

10) and with all deception of wickedness for those who are being lost, because they didn’t receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11) Because of this, God sends them a working of error, that they should believe a lie;
12) that they all might be judged who didn’t believe the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

The Trinity doctrine is a lie!

"Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ" (Ephesians 1:2).
 
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"...Are You greater than our father Abraham, who is dead? And the prophets are dead. Who do You make Yourself out to be?"

Jesus answered, "If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your God. Yet you have not known Him, but I know Him. And if I say, 'I do not know Him,' I shall be a liar like you; but I do know Him and keep His word. Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad."

Then the Jews said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?"

Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM."

Then they took up stones to throw at Him....

-John 8:53-59 NKJV
 
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However, the apostles also praise other Christians, so there is nothing wrong with giving praise where it is warranted.

Yes people can be praised but NOT the same as being reverenced, and obeyed etc., as God is!

(Hebrews 1:6) When he again brings in the firstborn into the world he says, “Let all the angels of God worship him.”

Angels mean messengers and there are three categories of angels: :
1. Jesus as the messenger of the Gospel.
2. Angels as ministering messengers on behalf of the saved.
3. People are messengers as they bring the Gospel to the world.
To which angel do you suppose God has in mind?


No, believe that he is God's son, and that God has anointed him to be our savoiur and king.

Jesus came the first time to be the Savior of the world.
Isaiah 43:11:
"I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no Savior."
If there are no other savior in the world beside God then Jesus IS God according to Isaiah 43:11.


So He then said that His name should forever be Yahweh.

Yet God also said: "And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Jesus is not his own father, Yahweh. Like it or not, we need to love the truth, otherwise ... 2 Thessalonians 2 (WEB):

What is truth? Pilate said. [John 18:38]

The Trinity doctrine is a lie!

Only to your mind's eyes. The Bible is replete with Scripture verses that say otherwise.

"Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ" (Ephesians 1:2).

Have you done a study on the word "Lord?" You might find it fascinating.

To God Be The Glory
 

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keithr said:
(Hebrews 1:6) When he again brings in the firstborn into the world he says, “Let all the angels of God worship him.”

Angels mean messengers and there are three categories of angels:
1. Jesus as the messenger of the Gospel.
2. Angels as ministering messengers on behalf of the saved.
3. People are messengers as they bring the Gospel to the world.
To which angel do you suppose God has in mind?
Well not Jesus, obviously, and not people (especially those preaching the Gospel because the Gospel hadn't been revealed at that point). From the context of the passage, from verse 4 to 14, Paul is comparing Jesus with the heavenly angels. If you read the passage then it will be obvious that he is referring to them:

4) having become so much better than the angels, as he has inherited a more excellent name than they have.
5) For to which of the angels did he say at any time, “You are my Son. Today I have become your father?”and again, “I will be to him a Father, and he will be to me a Son?”
6) When he again brings in the firstborn into the world he says, “Let all the angels of God worship him.”
7) Of the angels he says, “Who makes his angels winds, and his servants a flame of fire.”
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13) But which of the angels has he told at any time, “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies the footstool of your feet?”
14) Aren’t they all serving spirits, sent out to do service for the sake of those who will inherit salvation?

Jesus came the first time to be the Savior of the world.
Isaiah 43:11:
"I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no Savior."
If there are no other savior in the world beside God then Jesus IS God according to Isaiah 43:11.
We've been over this already. There's no point in my repeating myself. See post #397. Without God (Yahweh) we would not have a saviour. God has saved us by sending His Son, Jesus, to pay the penalty of sin for us.

Yet God also said: "And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
Moses was born after Abraham had died, and God revealed His name, Yahweh, to Moses, so it's not surprising that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob didn't know His name. However, Moses wrote the first 5 books of the Bible, and he quotes Eve using God's name:

(Gen 4:1) The man knew Eve his wife. She conceived, and gave birth to Cain, and said, “I have gotten a man with Yahweh’s help.”​

and he also mentions people using God's name well before the flood:

(Gen 4:26 WEB): A son was also born to Seth, and he named him Enosh. At that time men began to call on Yahweh’s name.​
or as the ISV more correctly puts it?:
(Gen 4:26) Seth also fathered a son, whom he named Enosh. At that time, profaning the name of the LORD began.​

Genesis 13:4 would seem to contradict Exodus 6:3:

(Gen 13:4) to the place of the altar, which he had made there at the first. There Abram called on Yahweh’s name.​

Perhaps we should assume that Abraham called on the 'name' of "God Almighty" rather than Yahweh, and that Moses was using God's name Yahweh in his writings just to be consistent?

What is truth? Pilate said. [John 18:38]
Jesus told us:
(Joh 17:17) Sanctify them in your truth. Your word is truth.​

keithr said:
The Trinity doctrine is a lie!
Only to your mind's eyes. The Bible is replete with Scripture verses that say otherwise.
Actually there are very few verses of Scripture, effectively none when you remove the spurious corruptions (such as 1 John 5:7), that even hint at a trinity. But there are dozens of verses that are completely contradictory to such a theory. If you read the Bible without trying to force it to conform to a trinity theory then you will frequently come across verses that are contradictory to it. For example, last night I came across:

(Hebrews 9:24) For Christ hasn’t entered into holy places made with hands, which are representations of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us;​

Clearly if Jesus appears in the presence of God then Jesus cannot be God!
 

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"...Are You greater than our father Abraham, who is dead? And the prophets are dead. Who do You make Yourself out to be?"

Jesus answered, "If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your God. Yet you have not known Him, but I know Him. And if I say, 'I do not know Him,' I shall be a liar like you; but I do know Him and keep His word. Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad."
Note that Jesus says that his father is our God, and that he knows God. Therefore Jesus is not claiming to be God, he's claiming to be God's son. Plain and simple to understand - no hint of a binity let alone a trinity here!

Then the Jews said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?"
Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM."

Or a better translation into English would be, "Most assuredly, I say unto you, I have lived since before Abraham was born".
 

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'But while he (Joseph) thought on these things,
behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying,

"Joseph, thou son of David,
fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife:
for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
And she shall bring forth a son,
and thou shalt call His name JESUS:
for He shall save His people from their sins."
Now all this was done,
that it might be fulfilled
which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet,
saying,
"Behold, a virgin shall be with child,
and shall bring forth a son,
and they shall call His name Emmanuel,
which being interpreted is, God with us."
Then Joseph being raised from sleep
did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him,
and took unto him his wife:
And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son:
and he called His name JESUS.'

Hello there,

* Joseph did not doubt the word of God given to him by the angel of the Lord: and by faith he got up and did what he was told to do in the light of it. What a shame that there are those among us who do not equally walk by faith: but bring into dispute the word of God, and deny the truth concerning the Lord Jesus Christ and His deity; Who was and is, indeed - 'God with us'. Who, unlike Joseph, do not believe God, and do not therefore walk in the light of what He has told us concerning His only begotten Son.

In Christ Jesus
Chris


 
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Joseph did not doubt the word of God given to him by the angel of the Lord: and by faith he got up and did what he was told to do in the light of it.
Actually Joseph simply obeyed God - he did what the angel had told him to. He wasn't acting by faith, he had a personal message from God - it doesn't take much faith (belief) when God speaks directly to you!

What a shame that there are those among us who do not equally walk by faith: but bring into dispute the word of God, and deny the truth concerning the Lord Jesus Christ and His deity; Who was and is, indeed - 'God with us'. Who, unlike Joseph, do not believe God, and do not therefore walk in the light of what He has told us concerning His only begotten Son.
Mary and Joseph were both instructed to name him Jesus (Yeshua), which means 'Yahweh is salvation'. It says that 'they' will call her son Immanuel, or "god with us", but that is not the name that God chose for him. Note that 'god with us' is not 'Yahweh with us'.

Jesus said, in John 4:
22) You worship that which you don’t know. We [including Jesus] worship that which we know; for salvation is from the Jews.
23) But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father [and the Father/Yahweh only] in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to be his worshipers.
24) God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”​

So the time had already come, before Jesus' crucifixion, when true worshipers worshiped Yahweh in truth - at a time over 300 years before the concept of the trinity was even proposed (it started out as a binity and was later expanded into a trinity). Clearly the Trinity doctrine is not the truth that God Yahweh wishes to be worshipped with.
 

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Note that Jesus says that his father is our God, and that he knows God. Therefore Jesus is not claiming to be God, he's claiming to be God's son. Plain and simple to understand - no hint of a binity let alone a trinity here!


Or a better translation into English would be, "Most assuredly, I say unto you, I have lived since before Abraham was born".


Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM."
(John 8:58) NKJV

And God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM." And He said, "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: 'I AM has sent me to you.'"
(Exodus 3:14) NKJV
 

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Actually Joseph simply obeyed God - he did what the angel had told him to. He wasn't acting by faith, he had a personal message from God - it doesn't take much faith (belief) when God speaks directly to you!


Mary and Joseph were both instructed to name him Jesus (Yeshua), which means 'Yahweh is salvation'. It says that 'they' will call her son Immanuel, or "god with us", but that is not the name that God chose for him. Note that 'god with us' is not 'Yahweh with us'.

Jesus said, in John 4:
22) You worship that which you don’t know. We [including Jesus] worship that which we know; for salvation is from the Jews.
23) But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father [and the Father/Yahweh only] in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to be his worshipers.
24) God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”​

So the time had already come, before Jesus' crucifixion, when true worshipers worshiped Yahweh in truth - at a time over 300 years before the concept of the trinity was even proposed (it started out as a binity and was later expanded into a trinity). Clearly the Trinity doctrine is not the truth that God Yahweh wishes to be worshipped with
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Hello @keithr

The word, 'Trinity' is not Scriptural, so I do not stand in defence of it: but for the deity of Christ I do. The whole of Scripture declares the truth of the presence of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, but One God at work. God has to use words that we will understand to describe a concept which is way beyond our ability to understand.

* In terms of LIGHT, we have (1) heat rays that can be felt but not seen. (2) Light rays, which are seen and not felt, and (3) Actinic rays, which are known only by the effects of their chemical action (as in Photography), being neither seen nor felt. VAPOUR also, is (1) invisible in the air, (2) visible in the form of water, and (3) experienced in its effects.

* In Numbers 6:24-26, we have the same threefold effect in the Aaronic Blessing:-

'JEHOVAH bless thee and keep thee.'
'JEHOVAH make His face shine upon thee.'
'JEHOVAH lift up His countenance upon thee and give thee peace.'​

*In Psalm 33:6, in relation to Creation it is said:-

'By (1) the WORD of (2) JEH0VAH were the heavens made;
and all the host of them by (3) the
BREATH (or Spirit) of His Mouth.'

* God said (in Haggai 2:5) to Israel regarding His covenant with them:-

'According to (1) the WORD that (2) I COVENANTED WITH YOU.
when ye came out of Egypt,
so (3) My SPIRIT remaineth with you; fear ye not.''

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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Actually, that symbolic name that Jehovah used only ONE time the scholars believe it to read "I will prove to be".
Sorry, for all you believing Church Fable.
Hello @theQuestioneer,

Yes, Praise God! Jehovah does 'prove to be' everything that His People have need of, as the list below will show.

* 'Elohim' is the name for God as the Creator of all things. 'Jehovah' is the name used of the same God in covenant relation to those whom He has created. Jehovah means 'the Eternal, the Immutable One'. He Who Was and Is, and IS TO COME. The Divine definition is given in Genesis 21:33, 'And Abraham planted a tree in Beer-sheba, and called there on the name of Jehovah, 'The Everlasting God.' He is especially, therefore, the God of Israel; and the God of those who are redeemed, and are thus now 'in Christ'. We can say 'My God', but not 'My Jehovah', for Jehovah is 'My God'.

* The name Jehovah is combined with ten other words which form what are known as 'The Jehovah Titles'.


Jehovah-Jereh = Jehovah will see, or provide. (Genesis22:14)
Jehovah-Ropheka = Jehovah that healeth thee. (Exodus 15:26)
Jehovah-Nissi = Jehovah my banner. (Exodus 17:15)
Jehovah-Mekaddishkem = Jehovah that doth sanctify you. (Exodus 31:13;Leviticus 20:8; 21:8; 22:32; Ezekiel 20:12)
Jehovah-Shalom = Jehovah (send) peace. (Judges 6:24)
Jehovah-Zebaoth = Jehovah of hosts. (1 Samuel 1:3; & frequently)
Jehovah Zidenu = Jehovah our righteousness. (Jeremiah 23:6; 33:16)
Jehovah Shammah = Jehovah is there. (Ezekiel 48:35)
Jehovah-Elyon = Jehovah most high. (Psalm 7:17; 47:2; 97:9)
Jehovah-Roi = Jehovah My Shepherd. (Psalm 23:1)

* Seven of these are found in the 23rd Psalm

(ref: Companion Bible Appendix)

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
our risen and glorified
Saviour, Lord and Head.

Chris
 

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God has to use words that we will understand to describe a concept which is way beyond our ability to understand.

* In terms of LIGHT, we have (1) heat rays that can be felt but not seen. (2) Light rays, which are seen and not felt, and (3) Actinic rays, which are known only by the effects of their chemical action (as in Photography), being neither seen nor felt. VAPOUR also, is (1) invisible in the air, (2) visible in the form of water, and (3) experienced in its effects.
And in the nursery rhyme there were three blind mice. It does not mean that there must be three persons making up God!

* In Numbers 6:24-26, we have the same threefold effect in the Aaronic Blessing:-

'JEHOVAH bless thee and keep thee.'
'JEHOVAH make His face shine upon thee.'
'JEHOVAH lift up His countenance upon thee and give thee peace.'​
So what? Aaron says Jehovah will bless, keep, shine His face upon, lift His countenance upon, and give peace to thee. That's five things. Repeating God's name three times doesn't mean anything!

There's no need to look for hidden hints as to the nature of God and Jesus when there is plain language used, such as Jesus speaking to his and our heavenly Father (Yahweh, God) saying, "This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ" (John 17:3). Quite clearly Jesus states that his father, Yahweh, is the only true God. That is not beyond our ability to understand!

Paul said to the saints in Ephesus that he didn't "cease to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers, that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him" (Ephesians 1:16-17). A lot of Christians today need to pray for the same thing.

In Revelation 3, the resurrected Jesus, who is sat at the right hand of God, mentions four times in one sentence that he has a God:

12) He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will go out from there no more. I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from my God, and my own new name.
13) He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the assemblies.
 
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Wonderful scriptures sister.
Yes. One God. Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son, who is the biblical Lord Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to be saved and have eternal life.
We need to get back to our bibles and keep grounded in scripture.
Praise the Lord.
Sister is loved.
Sound it out sister . Sound it out . Let the KING be praised .
The masses are growing in number daily , who preach another jesus and other paths .
But as for the lambs , WE CLING TO THE BIBLICAL JESUS , no matter the cost . Embracing EVERY WORD HE EVER SAID .
Now let the Lord be praised .
 
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There once was a man who went unto the ocean and drew out a bucket of water from the ocean .
He carries it back to the village and sets it up before the classroom .
As the pupils enter they notice this clear bucket of water .
The teacher then begins His message . He says to the class ,
class i have brought you the ocean . And all the children laughed him to scorn .
Then he says , then tell me what is it .
The pupils say , that is only water in a bucket , its not the ocean .
So the teacher takes the class back to the ocean and dumps the water back into the ocean
and then says , Now what is it and they say the ocean .
PS , it always was the ocean . Same essence , it came forth of the ocean and unto the ocean it returned .
And now a word . IN the beginning was the word and the Word was with God
and the Word was God . Ponder on that one .
 
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