new version of OSAS?

Michiah-Imla said:

No, he that believes on HIM that sent him:

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life." (John 5:24)

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The meaning and the result is the same ....

Cooper said:

Until the dog returns to its own vomit.
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That “ vomit” is returning to Works for your Salvation....

Addy said:

Most of your posts are filled with condemnation and mis-interpretation of the scripture you post. Just saying...

These forums are filled to the brim with condemners... they spend all day long pointing their gnarly fingers at others...
their beady eyes staring to and fro to find innocent victims to accuse... You are one of many...

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They forget. Pharisees knew the OT by heart

they crucified Christ with all that Bible knowledge

Cooper said:

Tell that to the lost sheep of Israel.
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You are so wrong. Millions have gone astray and never returned.

The 1 sheep that does return is the exception, and the cause for great rejoicing.
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They did return. Those who had faith

why do you want to base your eternity on your ability? Just asking

Eternally Grateful said:

they crucified Christ with all that Bible knowledge

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and I've no doubt it would happen again... the exact same way TODAY.... The forums are filled with Pharisees... sadly.

Unlike others’ posts that contain nothing but a soap box rant of what their teachers taught them to say…


.....another “ self-taught” man, who is “So Above” listening to God - Given Teachers That just might be a little smarter than they are and understand the Word Of God better than they do.....

Yep ......they are “self- taught”.......and boy, does it show...

@Blood Bought 1953 I hear the pancakes at McD's are all the rave.... LOL

Blood Bought 1953 said:

That “ vomit” is returning to Works for your Salvation....

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C’mon man! Are you serious?!

When I was a dog I knew nothing about salvation. Returning to your old ways is not returning to “works for salvation”. It’s returning to the old man:

"…put off concerning the former lifestyle the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts" (Ephesians 4:22)

If you put this “dog” back on you put your salvation in jeopardy.

"Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance: But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conduct" (1 Peter 1:13-15)

Blood Bought 1953 said:

.....another “ self-taught” man, who is “So Above” listening to God - Given Teachers That just might be a little smarter than they are and understand the Word Of God better than they do.....

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Yeah, “a little smarter” to deceive:

"That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive" (Ephesians 4:14)

In these last days there’s way more false prophets than ever.

"And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." (Matthew 24:11-13)

The “many” are on your side!

I’m in the minority here.

That should tell you something.

Michiah-Imla said:

Where in the Bible did you extrapolate this teaching?

On the other hand there is this warning:

"For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame." (Hebrews 6:4-6)

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There are many good Teachers out there that you Shun, because of Pride , That could open your eyes to the Truths Of Hebrews 6 and of course Hebrews 10......it takes work and time to “ prove yourself to be a good student of the Word and to be able to Rightly Divide”.......Some proud individuals that won’t spend ten minutes looking at other explanations of these verses that make perfect sense when taken in context must think that Ignorance is a Virtue.....

Blood Bought 1953 said:

There are many good Teachers out there that you Shun, because of Pride , That could open your eyes to the Truths Of Hebrews 6 and of course Hebrews 10....

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This is absurd.

They would close our eyes to the truth of those scriptures.

As is evident with many here.

These so-called teachers do not “know” as they ought to know.

"And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know." (1 Corinthians 8:2)

But know this for sure:

"…the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)

That includes YOU and ME if we return to any of this vomit!

Blood Bought 1953 said:

That “ vomit” is returning to Works for your Salvation....

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In which case those people who return to a works based salvation HAVE LOST THEIR SALVATION, something you say can never happen.
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Eternally Grateful said:

They forget. Pharisees knew the OT by heart

they crucified Christ with all that Bible knowledge

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That sounds like the OSAS brigade.
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The “many” are on your side!

I’m in the minority here.




You may be in the “ minority” at this one particular time in this one particular thread.....most “Christians” share your views.....90% of the “ Christian” world is “ Fallen from Grace” and don’t even know it —- they all ADD to the Gospel Of Pure Grace with something or other that essentially let’s them be “ Co- Savior”......God won’t have it.

Eternally Grateful said:

They did return. Those who had faith

why do you want to base your eternity on your ability? Just asking

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I don't, Christ did it all.
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Addy said:

and I've no doubt it would happen again... the exact same way TODAY.... The forums are filled with Pharisees... sadly.

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They are the ones I talk to.
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Cooper said:

In which case those people who return to a works based salvation HAVE LOST THEIR SALVATION, something you say can never happen.

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He did not say that .... he said RETURN to their vomit ( I hate that word )... Salvation is a done deal at the time of conversion...
These people that return to their vomit simply live miserable lives.... they are always focused on sin... in themselves and others.

Blood Bought 1953 said:

Unlike others’ posts that contain nothing but a soap box rant of what their teachers taught them to say…


.....another “ self-taught” man, who is “So Above” listening to God - Given Teachers That just might be a little smarter than they are and understand the Word Of God better than they do.....

Yep ......they are “self- taught”.......and boy, does it show...

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Look in the mirror.
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Addy said:

He did not say that .... he said RETURN to their vomit ( I hate that word )... Salvation is a done deal at the time of conversion...
These people that return to their vomit simply live miserable lives.... they are always focused on sin... in themselves and others.

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He meant, they return to their old ways before they were saved. Those who do that are no longer saved.

You just admitted OSAS is a false teaching, the same as all the other cults.
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Cooper said:

He meant, they return to their old ways before they were saved. Those who do that are no longer saved.

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Well... I'm not going to argue about what BB meant...

I'm not sure what the penalty/judgement is from God regarding those who believe in legalistic doctrine... I don't dwell on God's punishment... that is HIS business... but what I do know is that those who state they are Christians and follow a legalistic doctrine are JUST AS enslaved as NON BELIEVERS... thus... returning to their vomit.... meaning... Christianity has not benefitted them any. Legalistic Christians are STILL saved.... but the QUALITY of their lives is very low.