Paying tithes/Giving back to the Lord

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Do you pay tithes, and or offerings? Or do you give at all?
I save 10% of what God blesses me with and put it in an envelope and give to this church I go to once a month, and if I ever run into one of our brothers struggling or lacking I'll give to him. In my heart I give it too the Lord.
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Do you pay tithes, and or offerings? Or do you give at all?
I save 10% of what God blesses me with and put it in an envelope and give to this church I go to once a month, and if I ever run into one of our brothers struggling or lacking I'll give to him. In my heart I give it too the Lord.
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Hi Devon , and I have seen that this one subject that has cause controversy as to when it is applicable , Even those Abram gave tithes it was not under the Law of Moses .

Is it applicable under the Law of Moses .

Under the Law , you brought your tithe to a Priest .

The Tithe approached 30% .

You brought it to the store house , Mal 3:10 and promised a blessing for giving .

Tithe was and Ordinace .

Not giving brought destruction Mal 3:11

Then in 2 Cor 5:8 , any one who does not provide for his family hath died the faith and is worse than an infidel .

Under the Age nof Grace it is not as 2 Cor 9:7 says .that God love a cheeful giver or a HILAROS or a hilarious giver .and there in no tithe requirement under the Grace and AGE of Grace .

And I support my Aseembly and missions , dan p
 

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Ever notice that the person saying, "If you give you shall receive" is usually on the receiving end = )
I've still never had a pastor come up to me and say, "If you give you shall receive" and drop me some cash... haha
But in all seriousness... I take Jesus serious when he says that we shouldn't even let our right hand know what our left hand is doing when we give... so I say keep that stuff personal... don't want to lose our reward because we got paid out by the praise of men...
 
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10% is not the limit nor a law.

You're to give everything you can. Some people, that might be 1%. Some people that might be 58%.
10% was just a guideline example.
 

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according as God has purposed in your heart so give. 1% 10% 100% money or time :rolleyes: it sould be a joy not a burden
 

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I agree Gregg...

I used to believe the only way to "Give money to God" was by donating to a church business because that's what I was taught by the pastor who just happened to be the one on the receiving end... haha... but then as I began to read Jesus for myself I realized the guy pretty much lied to me...

The things that really stood out to me were when Jesus said

"for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’ “Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me"

Which said to me that when we give to anyone who's His kid it's giving to Him... not just to some pastor and his christian business...

and

"He answered and said to them, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? For God commanded, saying, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death. But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is a gift to God”— then he need not honor his father or mother.’ Thus you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:
‘ These people draw near to Me with their mouth,
And honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’

Which spoke to me that if I have a brother that's in need and I say to them. "Sorry buddy... I would have helped you but I gotta give the money I could help you with to God" I'm breaking the Lord's commandment to love one another because of some tradition... and not giving to God because if I don't give to the least of my brethren... I'm not giving to Him...

It's much more cheerful to give when giving actually serves the purpose of helping someone out instead of someone telling you that you have to give to them because that's the rules when they already have more than you...

I mean if the pastor has more than you shouldn't they be the ones giving to you? haha
 

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Thanks robbie thats the way I see it, if I end up giving my offering money to a homeless brother I am giving to the Lord.
 

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10% is not the limit nor a law.

You're to give everything you can. Some people, that might be 1%. Some people that might be 58%.
10% was just a guideline example.


really?? chapter and verse that over-rules the ocmmand to give 10%. sure you can give more but 10% is the minimum.

according as God has purposed in your heart so give. 1% 10% 100% money or time

i would rethink your words here as nowhere does it say 1% nor time.
 

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really?? chapter and verse that over-rules the ocmmand to give 10%. sure you can give more but 10% is the minimum.



i would rethink your words here as nowhere does it say 1% nor time.

Are you referring to the tithe that God commanded Israel? Can you give some scriptures?
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Do you pay tithes, and or offerings? Or do you give at all?
I save 10% of what God blesses me with and put it in an envelope and give to this church I go to once a month, and if I ever run into one of our brothers struggling or lacking I'll give to him. In my heart I give it too the Lord.
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Devon.
 

archaeologist5

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Are you referring to the tithe that God commanded Israel? Can you give some scriptures?
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yes.

don't forget that Jesus said, 'i came not to end the law but to fulfill it.' Jesus also said 'give unto caesar's what is caesar's and to God what is God's.' Jesus never ended the tithe command.
 

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Do you pay tithes, and or offerings? Or do you give at all?
I save 10% of what God blesses me with and put it in an envelope and give to this church I go to once a month, and if I ever run into one of our brothers struggling or lacking I'll give to him. In my heart I give it too the Lord.
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Devon.
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Here is what Jesus has shown me abouttithing.



(Mark12: 43-44) “A poor widow came and put in two smallcoins, the equivalent of a penny. Thenhe called his disciples and said to them, ‘I tell you solemnly, this poor widowhas put more in than all who have contributed to the treasury; for they haveall put in money they had over, but she from the little she had has put ineverything she possessed, all she had to live on.”



(Matthew 6:19) “Do not store up for yourselves treasures onearth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.



(Luke 12:33) “Sell your possessions and give alms. Get yourselves purses that do not wear out,treasure that will not fail you, in Heaven where no thief can reach it and nomoth destroy it. For where yourtreasure is, there will your heart be also.”



(Luke 14:33) “So in the same way, none of you can be mydisciple unless he gives up all his possessions.”



(Luke 12:16-20) “Then he told them a parable: ‘there was once a rich manwho, having had a good harvest from his land, thought to himself, “What am I todo? I have not enough room to store mycrops.” Then he said,” This is what I will do: I will pull down my barns andbuild bigger ones, and store all my grain and my goods in them, and I will sayto my soul: My soul, you have plenty of good things laid by for many years tocome; take things easy, eat, drink, have a good time”. But God said to him, “Fool! This verynight the demand will be make for your soul; and this hoard of yours, whosewill it be then?”
 

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Ever notice that the person saying, "If you give you shall receive" is usually on the receiving end = )
I've still never had a pastor come up to me and say, "If you give you shall receive" and drop me some cash... haha
But in all seriousness... I take Jesus serious when he says that we shouldn't even let our right hand know what our left hand is doing when we give... so I say keep that stuff personal... don't want to lose our reward because we got paid out by the praise of men...

Ever notice that the person saying, "If you give you shall receive" is usually on the receiving end

hahaha Like most truth, it's funny. Also a little sad.

If I were to liken the money I gave to church as an investment, I'd say that I'd made some very bad financial choices.
I have NEVER reaped ANY benefit from ANY of the money I've given to church or religious organizations. As far as I'm concerned it's the same as flushing it down the toilet.

Everybody likes to quote the O.T. tithe percentage of 10%. Actually I heard one pastor say that if you didn't have the 10% this week, then you owned another 10% interest on top of it the next time. That was Biblical as well. Quoted verses and everything.

On the other hand, the same people who quote O.T. giving never mention the several recorded instances where the priests told the people to STOP giving as they had received enough.

Point is that a 10% tithe is NEVER mentioned in the New Testament.
Point is that N.T. preachers NEVER HAVE ENOUGH.

Ever hear one say STOP?

BTW I do give, but I don't put all my eggs in the same basket - as it were.

PS Muslim tithe is 20% (according to the Qur'an). Just thought you'd like to know.
 

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Can we be partly committed to the cause?

What cause?

Investment in the vision of the leadership or investment in the Kingdom of God?

I write my checks with the latter in mind. I reserve my contempt for the former.

Ever notice how petitions to the congregation for additional funds is usually made by one of the elders INSTEAD of the pastor? Talk about a hot potatoe.