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Joyful

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The issue then is this: Can we be legitimate witnesses for God if we are in the military?Am I correct?
This is my conviction (and my conviction comes from Bible knowledge) that if we are in the military, we cannot be a good withnesses for the Lord, because Christianity is well known for preaching love to the world. it is that simple my friend.I believe you have been ignoring what I said that I have been reading the Bible faithfully and striving to obey everthing Jesus is teaching since I became believer 8 years ago. Do you realize that we cannot follow Jesus unless we read the Bible? I don't mean to be rude but I have to ask you this question. How old are you? We have such difficulty communicating.
 

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(sigh) I am 16 years in the Faith, not 16 years old, but 16 years saved. I have read through the Bible, and am doing so again, in the Book of Proverbs right now. I have gone to Bible college for the ministry, and have taught and preached several times, and lead many to the Lord. I do not say this to boast, that is not my intent, please, believe me. Only said to show my credibility in what I say concerning the Word of God.
 

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(sigh) I am 16 years in the Faith, not 16 years old, but 16 years saved. I have read through the Bible, and am doing so again, in the Book of Proverbs right now. I have gone to Bible college for the ministry, and have taught and preached several times, and lead many to the Lord. I do not say this to boast, that is not my intent, please, believe me. Only said to show my credibility in what I say concerning the Word of God.
I don't trust anyone as faithful believers who consider attending Bible college to study the Bible. Mainstreams are showing rotten fruit of their faith. The Bible tells us that we know by their fruit if they are of God or not. Are you a pastor? You sound like it. If you are a pastor I believe I am wasting my breath talking to you.I have to go to bed now.
 

Joyful

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No, I am not a pastor.
good, then maybe you still have chance to learn the whole truth instead of what you have learned form your denomination. Pastors are getting paid to follow and preach what they are learned at their bible college. Are you in a process of being a pastor?BTW, You may have ability to quote the Scriptrues but you don't seem to know how to use your bible knowledge in real life. That's what happens when we are not completely sold out for Jesus. You seem to be following your denomination instead of Jesus.I am sorry if I seem harsh but you are going over board with your arrogance. I will be blunt as you are too. I am not angrey, writer, I am reflecting what you are doing to me and others.
 

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good, then maybe you still have chance to learn the whole truth instead of what you have learned form your denomination. Pastors are getting paid to follow and preach what they are learned at their bible college. Are you in a process of being a pastor?
Not every pastor gets paid to follow what the have learned. And yes, I am interning under a pastor within the local Church for the pastorate. I quote scripture and I show you how I come to my conclusions with the Word of God. I am open to have my mind changed about anything, but it must be proven to me by the Word of God and nothing else.
BTW, You may have ability to quote the Scriptrues but you don't seem to know how to use your bible knowledge in real life. That's what happens when we are not completely sold out for Jesus. You seem to be following your denomination instead of Jesus.
This is quite a judgmental statment, Faithful1. What do you know of my life and me not being sold out for Jesus Christ? Curious.
I am sorry if I seem harsh but you are going over board with your arrogance. I will be blunt as you are too. I am not angrey, writer, I am reflecting what you are doing to me and others.
I don't mind rebuke, and I welcome it. The Psalms state that the rebuke of the righteous is a pleasant thing, and the Proverbs state that such leads to wisdom and safety. But I ask that you do one thing with your rebuke, and that is that you back it with the Word of God.
 

Joyful

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Not every pastor gets paid to follow what the have learned. And yes, I am interning under a pastor within the local Church for the pastorate. I quote scripture and I show you how I come to my conclusions with the Word of God. I am open to have my mind changed about anything, but it must be proven to me by the Word of God and nothing else.
You will not get paid if you preach other than your denominational theology. Am I wrong?
This is quite a judgmental statment, Faithful1. What do you know of my life and me not being sold out for Jesus Christ? Curious.
We reveal outselves in everthing we do and say. You have been revealing quite a bit by your comments.
I don't mind rebuke, and I welcome it. The Psalms state that the rebuke of the righteous is a pleasant thing, and the Proverbs state that such leads to wisdom and safety. But I ask that you do one thing with your rebuke, and that is that you back it with the Word of God.
If you don't recognize what the Bible is teaching without quotes, you have a serious problem as a spritual leader, my dear.
 

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You will not get paid if you preach other than your denominational theology. Am I wrong?
As I said, I do not allign myself with any denomination, I simply attend a Baptist Church. There are several things that I teach that does not flush with Baptistic Theology, but I support them with the Word of God. If I teach what is not found within the Word of God, then I have no business teaching. FYI - I am not going into ministry for payment, nor do I expect to receive payment. Hence the reason I am learning a trade.
We reveal outselves in everthing we do and say. You have been revealing quite a bit by your comments.
Aye, so I give leave, I am not sold out for Christ. Such a thing for you to say, Faithful1, knowing nothing about me, where I come from and where I am at.
If you don't recognize what the Bible is teaching without quotes, you have a serious problem as a spritual leader, my dear.
In your humble and subjective opinion.
 

Joyful

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As I said, I do not allign myself with any denomination, I simply attend a Baptist Church. There are several things that I teach that does not flush with Baptistic Theology, but I support them with the Word of God. If I teach what is not found within the Word of God, then I have no business teaching. FYI - I am not going into ministry for payment, nor do I expect to receive payment. Hence the reason I am learning a trade.
So you are not planning on being paid in the future? (Remember that I have "testing the spirit" in mind when I ask questions.)
Aye, so I give leave, I am not sold out for Christ. Such a thing for you to say, Faithful1, knowing nothing about me, where I come from and where I am at.
If I were to tell you that I am in an adulterous relationship with no intention of getting out of it, would you be able to keep from telling me that I am not sold out for Christ? It wouldn't matter very much "Where I come from and where I am at," would it.We will be paying for everything we do, good and bad, all of us.
In your humble and subjective opinion.
Of course, isn't that what we are here for? to express our convictions and opinions? Just because you have ability to quote the Scriputre does not prove much. I can't quote very well, so I leave it to you to find the quotes: I know enough people who can quote the Bible without saying what the Bible actually says.
 

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So you are not planning on being paid in the future? (Remember that I have "testing the spirit" in mind when I ask questions.)
I will not base my ministry upon how much I get paid. I am not looking to be paid, but it is biblical to provide for those who minister to the Church. If the Lord chooses to provide for me and my family in such a way, then so be it. If not, I still plan to be in the Pastorate, regardless.
If I were to tell you that I am in an adulterous relationship with no intention of getting out of it, would you be able to keep from telling me that I am not sold out for Christ? It wouldn't matter very much "Where I come from and where I am at," would it.We will be paying for everything we do, good and bad, all of us.
(Looking for a place where I said anything remotely close to what you wrote here...)
Of course, isn't that what we are here for? to express our convictions and opinions? Just because you have ability to quote the Scriputre does not prove much. I can't quote very well, so I leave it to you to find the quotes: I know enough people who can quote the Bible without saying what the Bible actually says.
I ask that you back your arguments with the Word of God, that is all. I care nothing for opinions and convictions if they are not supported by the Word.
 

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Writer, we had QUOTE the BIBLE constantly...From the Word of God...How much do we need quote...We quoted ENOUGH, for that you can see and may understand. I can't make people see these things...Only God can open the peoples eyes.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour.
 

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I ask that you back your arguments with the Word of God, that is all. I care nothing for opinions and convictions if they are not supported by the Word.{quote}COPOUT what writer you think people are going to come to listen to you or come for avice when you feel nothing and just quote scripture to them what when they ask what it means what are you gonna say ?Gee I dont know it just says it.
 

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I ask that you back your arguments with the Word of God, that is all. I care nothing for opinions and convictions if they are not supported by the Word.{quote}COPOUT what writer you think people are going to come to listen to you or come for avice when you feel nothing and just quote scripture to them what when they ask what it means what are you gonna say ?Gee I dont know it just says it.
Have I ever said, "Gee I don't know, it just says it."? You're building a straw man, Kriss, just so you can knock something over.
 

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Can't win the argument, so attack the character. Classic. Is there some sort of How-To-Debate class that I missed here, because everyone seems to have the same tactics...
 

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writer you have advised a woman to back to her sinful husband told me that god says nothing about emotions when he he says its our love he wants, called me a deity because I dont agree with you Told me the lanuage of the word dosn't matter, told us your saved by works, said the OT isnt written to Christains when Christ himself says different than accuse us of not being scriptual and attacking you? You my friend are reaping what you sew. Ps your so scriptually accurate answer my post in rapture thread.
 

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Kriss and Betchevy, and any other who care to make reference to my many statements, please document them because:1. I never advised a woman to go back to her sinful husband, not yet, anyway2. I've never said that God says nothing about emotions, but I do say that He says a great deal about more than just emotions - what do you do with Jeremiah 17:9, I think it is... The heart is desperately wicked. 3. You are the ones claiming that I need some sort of divine touch, whatever it is, to understand the word of God. And I don't recall calling you a deity. 4. I never said that the language doesn't matter.5. I never claimed that anyone is saved by works.6. I've stated that the Old Testament was written to Israel, and not the Church, as the Church was not in existence at that time, but I never said that it wasn't for us. What thread are you referring to with the rapture issue?
 

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And as for the rest, I have clarified my statements in the previous post just made. If anyone feels I am in error, then they will let me know. As for the rapture, that topic will have to wait. As you know, I am quite busy here, and I can take on one debate at a time, but no more. Right now, the focus is OSAS. Perhaps the next one can be the rapture.